I think his post would of been even better if it ended after the 1st sentence.
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I think his post would of been even better if it ended after the 1st sentence.
Next thing to work on then is apologies.
When anyone tries to say anything negative, Townsville gets very defensive and his wording comes across as arrogant. This serves to solidify divisions (and create hostility) rather than invite open debate and discussion. Why is this, Townsville?
Looks like your post should to be on the nomination list for "Post of the year" P & C. If Darren doesn't approve of it it's got to be the Real Deal. :lol:
TP
Ah its simple mate. As stated earlier, its the "feeding the chooks" syndrome.
Sometimes is just great sport watching the chaos unfold. Throw some food, watch, throw some more, watch, etc etc etc.
And like hungry chooks, the same people bite and keep coming back for more. Some never learn.
Craftbrewer
Snip> Darren there is a lot of credence in those statements, When has X done you a service for nothing ?I have been involved in these non profit hop bulk buys (Graham) from day one and all I get is **** from the X crew. I am happy to be singled out by the X because I know that eventually the X will be exposed for what he is.If they dont like it (non profit) then ..... off and stop post negative crap. Long live free brewing.Always amusing,
A guy goes out of his way to supply homebrewers the cheapest hops in Australia and there are sooooo many HB shop "groupies" who spend their "intelligence" to try and bring it down.
All praise to the imposter Craftbrewer (Ross) who thinks that "cartels" can control the inguenuity of a homebrewer.
cheers
darren
Ah its simple mate. As stated earlier, its the "feeding the chooks" syndrome.
Sometimes is just great sport watching the chaos unfold. Throw some food, watch, throw some more, watch, etc etc etc.
And like hungry chooks, the same people bite and keep coming back for more. Some never learn.
Craftbrewer
Snip> Darren there is a lot of credence in those statements, When has X done you a service for nothing ?I have been involved in these non profit hop bulk buys (Graham) from day one and all I get is **** from the X crew. I am happy to be singled out by the X because I know that eventually the X will be exposed for what he is.If they dont like it (non profit) then ..... off and stop post negative crap. Long live free brewing.
GB ( sorry in X's words my name is ("********")
Well f**k me did I / we really need your blessing to believe what was already indicated. I have sourced some of your hops but really you are starting / are giving me the f**king ***** with your ranting. No I can't help it, I do like reading threads on AHB. Yep I know I am likely to now get shot down by some disciples but tuff.
BYB
Personally- I support Townsville's efforts, and I am quite grateful for the work that he has put into the buy. However I do not understand why he feels like he must go for the 'hard sell'. When anyone tries to say anything negative, Townsville gets very defensive and his wording comes across as arrogant. This serves to solidify divisions (and create hostility) rather than invite open debate and discussion. Why is this, Townsville? Surely you can just sit back and enjoy the good reviews if you are so confident the product is so good. Just as those who are bagging it before many beers are brewed are being far too premature, those praising it with the same lack of information are being premature as well (well, apart from the *one* person who has a chinese hop beer in his glass).
I will be brewing with my Chinese hops, and I will be posting honest thoughts as to how I think they are. If it's negative, then hey, I'll see it as a wearable expense to experiment with new hops. If it's positive, then hey, I win.
...but WHEN are we going to realise a disaggregation of the current malt "retailers" and see cheaper malt on the market.
For God Sake, bumper crops in WA, SA and Vic will result in more DUMPING (yes I mean dumping like excess milk) of malting quality barley and MALT...
I'm with you BYB. Shooting the messenger in degrading their knowledge/brewing ability using bullsh1t is poor form but that seems to be the way things are now on AHB, unfortunately. Ce Le Vive subjectivity.
P&C I couldn't agree with you more! Let the brewers do what we do best! Brew good beer and evaluate these hops unbiased and without threat of recourse, maybe even be subjective and informative without the bullying tactics employed by those self interested parties.
Chappo
:icon_offtopic: I suspect a lot of the grain in SA was downgraded from Malting Grade to Feed 1 Grade due to the last rains we had just before they were due to reap the barley. This seems to be the case for my brother-in-laws' folks and many nearby farms.
Cant speak for other states though.
(I still plan on getting some unmalted barley to try in a brew though at some stage!)
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