wide eyed and legless
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I would say YES, the competition goes awry when the importer is retailing the product.Brownsworthy said:Ok guys, but has the Robobrew overtaken Grainfather for product price point?
I would say YES, the competition goes awry when the importer is retailing the product.Brownsworthy said:Ok guys, but has the Robobrew overtaken Grainfather for product price point?
Did Plato talk about the 'good' beer?Feldon said:“And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good - need we ask anyone to tell us these things?”
Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values
Its a bit like a Chinese smartphone vs Iphone argument. Narrow difference on features and benefits, price is better for the Chinese one though I am not sure whether it is Certified to Australian standards. Grainfather after sales service has been sterling to date and the build quality is still superior. And for all of the criteria just mentioned some folks will still happily shell out even extra still for a BM.Brownsworthy said:Ok guys, but has the Robobrew overtaken Grainfather for product price point?
As pointed out previously, the Grainfather and Robobrew are not really 'computerised' they simply have a standard PID temp controller. Something that I am sure most people would fit to any DIY brew rig. How does this in any way affect how 'crafted' the beer is?Feldon said:Edit: Less crafted as the same beer of equal quality brewed on non-computerised equipment.
Yup I would agree with this. As someone who was just in the market for a single vessel brewing system, it was a tough choice between them. If I was more patient I probably would have waited around till a few places started stocking the new Robobrew and had a good look at it. But based on what I have heard of the previous model and the fact that I could get a Grainfather now, I decided it was worth the extra cash.LAGERFRENZY said:Its a bit like a Chinese smartphone vs Iphone argument. Narrow difference on features and benefits, price is better for the Chinese one though I am not sure whether it is Certified to Australian standards. Grainfather after sales service has been sterling to date and the build quality is still superior. And for all of the criteria just mentioned some folks will still happily shell out even extra still for a BM.
:lol:Zorco said:Zorco, on 07 Jan 2017 - 4:33 PM, said:
Way to go tidal Pete....
Make a thread go poo poo OT and then leave!
Someone call kerrplease to arrest the situation!
Both are Chinese, just the assembly of the Grainfather is done in house.LAGERFRENZY said:Its a bit like a Chinese smartphone vs Iphone argument. Narrow difference on features and benefits, price is better for the Chinese one though I am not sure whether it is Certified to Australian standards. Grainfather after sales service has been sterling to date and the build quality is still superior. And for all of the criteria just mentioned some folks will still happily shell out even extra still for a BM.
Much like many of the components of the Iphone only built to a stricter specification and quality management regime. Ultimately the customer places his /her faith in the firm marketing the end product. Grainfather (or Apple) vs Oppo or Huwaei (or Keg King's supplier). Do a search here on Keg King Element Fail for a taste of that track record and after sales service. To my best knowledge the elements never had Certification to Australian Electrical Standards and neither did the Gen 1 Robobrews although I would happily stand correct if not the case for the new ones.wide eyed and legless said:Both are Chinese, just the assembly of the Grainfather is done in house.
I just finished rebuilding my brewery today.malt junkie said:I have to sadly say in the last year or two since these(GF and Robbo) have been released the number of build threads has dropped dramatically.
Quite depressing -_-
less innovation.
I'm sure you could find some sites dedicated to building breweries. I for one would prefer talking about brewing beer, recipes, grain and hops. Bored shitless with how someone fitted a tap or element.malt junkie said:I have to sadly say in the last year or two since these(GF and Robbo) have been released the number of build threads has dropped dramatically.
Quite depressing -_-
less innovation.
FTFYBJB said:I'm sure you could find some threads on AHB dedicated to building breweries. I for one would prefer talking about brewing beer, recipes, grain and hops. Possibly not in this GF /RB thread so I'll have a quick search.
Bored shitless with how someone fitted a tap or element. Lucky there is Netflix
OT, but from the posts I've seen, Zorco I love that you can take as much as you can deliver. That's a rare trait.Zorco said:F*ck I'm slow. I actually had to google that. [emoji14]
Fair play BJB...... no worries.
I'm Back on topic again now
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