My BIAB , stainless steel basket instead of bag, your thoughts ?

[Roosterboy]

Another point to consider is that even if you recirculate, once you hoist a voile bag, the whole grain mass shifts, doesn't form a grain bed such as you get with HERMS or BM, and leads to cloudy wort in the kettle.
The use of a sturdy basket allows a grain bed to form and if it's lifted gradually the resulting wort in the kettle should be clearer .. especially if one of the recirc systems is used.

I don't believe that trub gives problems with the quality of the resulting beer, but it does rob volume .. having seen BM in action they do get more clear stuff into the fermenter.

It is clear, i agree.

 

[Burt de Ernie]

BIABers do sparge , you can get 15 L from this system , home brewers tend to think the more beer you make in a run the better,
it's a good argument to say how much money your saving.But some brewers like making smaller batches just because they like brewing.

Its more about the amount of sparge water you can run over the grain regardless of batch size.

If your pot were relatively tight to the mesh it means you could wash the grain with more sparge water which will increase your efficiency. It not a major issue, it just means you spend more on grain in the long run.

 

[Roosterboy]

I designed this basket for people wanting to start BIAB , using fabric is a giant pain in the bum, but it seems people don't want to spend the money on SS.
I've listed this on ebay at $120 which with selling fees is below the cost of having it made and shipped. I must say I thought people would be more
interested especially as it's made to last and the companies in the US that make BIAB baskets sell them (+ freight) for much more.
If your interested 043 HUSKY 01.

 

[SBOB]

I designed this basket for people wanting to start BIAB , using fabric is a giant pain in the bum, but it seems people don't want to spend the money on SS.
I've listed this on ebay at $120 which with selling fees is below the cost of having it made and shipped. I must say I thought people would be more
interested especially as it's made to last and the companies in the US that make BIAB baskets sell them (+ freight) for much more.
If your interested 043 HUSKY 01.

i think the issue is purely size.
If it was more in-line with the size of crown/birko urns/grainfather kind of size then you would likely sell quite a few

 

[Roosterboy]

Thanks SBOB , I'll see how much that adds to the price by increasing the dimensions.

 

[wynnum1]

Old cooking they use the stainless mesh so they can filter the oil when its hot and thin and is expensive to buy the filter mesh .
Stainless Brewing Filters - Utah Biodiesel Supply is worth having a look at.

 

[Roosterboy]

Old cooking they use the stainless mesh so they can filter the oil when its hot and thin and is expensive to buy the filter mesh .
Stainless Brewing Filters - Utah Biodiesel Supply is worth having a look at.

I spoke to the guys there, you can double the price they quote as freight is nearly the same and then adjust for the Aussie dollar which is worth $ 0.71 US , you won't
get anything for under $ 170 and they don't do bulk buy discounts.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

This mob in China already make hop spiders, false bottoms and bazookas, they are on Alibaba and will supply one item they will make to your specs, why don't you get in touch with them, could be a lot cheaper, but I wouldn't hold up much hope of being a big market over here. BIAB folk will stick with a bag hell of a lot cheaper.
http://bolinwiremesh.com/About.asp?action=Services

 

[Barge]

I don't understand why you would want a rigid "bag". As far as I can tell you still have the issue of cloudy wort as the open sides would mean that recirculated wort wouldn't be filtered through a grain bed.

If I was going to ditch the bag and pay for a solution it would be for a malt pipe with top and bottom filter plates. Otherwise I would just cut up the big w pot and go with that.

 

[contrarian]

Size would be the big factor for me. I've had well over 10kg in my bag and would want that replicated in a basket. I would also wonder how cleaning would compare to a bag that can be turned inside out and either hosed or put through the wash.

 

[Roosterboy]

Thanks for the comments everyone, the wort is really clear , I was thinking of doing a youtube video to show just how good it is, the basket is jiggled up and down
like a tea bag.The 400 micron mesh doesn't let fragments through.As you lift the basket in the pot it sucks clear wort back in to flow through the grain. You don't
have to do this all the time as the heat from the bottom also moves warm wort through.
As for cleaning I turn it upside down on the grass and put the hose on it . I guess you could put in a dishwasher if you have a bigger washer as the stainless steel
wouldn't be damaged but I haven't done it.
I've been using it lately to make wort for yeast starters as it's quick and not much cleaning up.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

For those wanting to use 6 kg plus of grain you would really need a perforated basket lined with a 400 micron filter, I doubt it would last long lifting wet grain and relying on the filter to hold it.
Here is the Alibaba site of that manufacturer's link I posted yesterday.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Stainless-steel-beer-brewing-keg-filter_60215485967.html?spm=a2700.7724838.30.159.5Us4Ii

 

[tumi2]

Did anyone manage to source a steel BIAB container / Bag?

A steel basket seems to make so much sense as i often use the flame during mash to maintain temps and it is a painful trying not to burn the lips of my bags.

I reckon you would get a better mash also as you would have a grain bed that you could more easily stir than you do in a bag.