KegLand Questions and Answers

[ozdevil]

Just going by what I was informed about this
Personally I wouldn’t use plastic pressure vessels unless I knew they had been pressure tested
I’ve seen too many photo’s of plastic ferments that have had similar problems. (supplied by the same company )

my understanding is that they are rated to 34 psi (or there about) so if it blew at 15psi I doubt if it was operator error

you doubt it was operatoer error after someone informing you

I have seen plenty of plastic fermenters and pet kegs blow as well many wasnt due to manufacting issue it was user error


has the person informed you told you exactly what happened or was he just telling you it was 15 psi and didnt want to look like a twat becuase he accidently set it above the rated 34 psi

i am not saying it was opeterator error

it can be a manufactur issue and if it was i hope the person who informed you or the owner of said pet keg went to the manufacturer
and spoke to them

 

[Vic]

you doubt it was operatoer error after someone informing you

I have seen plenty of plastic fermenters and pet kegs blow as well many wasnt due to manufacting issue it was user error


has the person informed you told you exactly what happened or was he just telling you it was 15 psi and didnt want to look like a twat becuase he accidently set it above the rated 34 psi

i am not saying it was opeterator error

it can be a manufactur issue and if it was i hope the person who informed you or the owner of said pet keg went to the manufacturer
and spoke to them

It does seem like a dodgy photo of a 4L keg that exploded with only 15PSI and sprayed 20L. A full keg with only a small amount of headspace does not have enough propellant (compressed CO2) to spread the contents very far unless it is a small breach below the liquid. On the other hand a nearly empty Keg will have a lot of propellant and if the breach is below liquid level would have the power to spread what’s left of the contents a reasonable distance. The story and photo do not make sense.

 

[Vic]

Photo is a 4 litre vessel with the bottom broken out. You can look at it all day and it won’t tell you the story of what happened. Maybe someone dropped it sometime and caused a weakness, maybe it had been stressed from being overpressurised sometime. Maybe someone forgot to carb the beer and thought they’d give it a burst and ended up bursting the keg. Or maybe there was a manufacturing flaw. For sure it didn’t put 20 litres of beer anywhere so someone is pulling your leg about that part at least, which doesn’t inspire confidence in the ‘15psi’ part of the story. 4 litres turns into 20, 40 psi turns into 15, who knows.

Please have a look at the attached picture. This is an enlargement of a section of the original photo. Please note the smooth rounded edges (the white bits) on the breached part of the keg. This is inconsistent with an explosive force as rough jagged edges would be expected. To cause this smooth edge would require applied heat.

 

[Half Pint]

Yeah, dunno about that one. They’re multi-layer and that bit looks like it’s torn to me, which could happen as the layers gave way, but I’ve never seen one that’s been blown up or melted or otherwise destroyed so that aspect is outside my experience. If you look closely at the original photo it looks like there’s some other damage too.
But anyway, it’s obviously a staged photo (ie parts have been posed in a dry stainless sink) and it proves nothing about anything. Kind of a “pic for attention” sort of thing.

 

[TwoCrows]

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[Vic]

Yeah, dunno about that one. They’re multi-layer and that bit looks like it’s torn to me, which could happen as the layers gave way, but I’ve never seen one that’s been blown up or melted or otherwise destroyed so that aspect is outside my experience. If you look closely at the original photo it looks like there’s some other damage too.
But anyway, it’s obviously a staged photo (ie parts have been posed in a dry stainless sink) and it proves nothing about anything. Kind of a “pic for attention” sort of thing.

No! They are not multi layer. Check the KL website. They are described as a mono layer item. The soft rounded edges in the enlarged photo don’t make sense of a breach incident at 15PSI. But yes, staged, something this forum could do without,

 

[Half Pint]

No! They are not multi layer. Check the KL website. They are described as a mono layer item. The soft rounded edges in the enlarged photo don’t make sense of a breach incident at 15PSI. But yes, staged, something this forum could do without,

I can see an 8 litre ‘monolayer’ keg on the Kegland site, but the 4 litre kegs are described as multi layer, suitable for storing beer up to 12 months.
The 4 litre multi layer kegs are $21 whereas the 8 litre monolayer is only $8.

 

[Vic]

I can see an 8 litre ‘monolayer’ keg on the Kegland site, but the 4 litre kegs are described as multi layer, suitable for storing beer up to 12 months.
The 4 litre multi layer kegs are $21 whereas the 8 litre monolayer is only $8.

Yes you a correct. Please see attached for pricing as of this post. Still does not explain the rounded edges on the breach.

 

[Kangarookid]

I'm wondering if there is any general time frame for when the updated g20 could be released ?

 

[KegLand-com-au]

I'm kinda done with this and documented the process into a PDF file which I shared in my google drive:

Great. Thanks for that. I am sure other customers will find this really helpful.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Photo is a 4 litre vessel with the bottom broken out. You can look at it all day and it won’t tell you the story of what happened. Maybe someone dropped it sometime and caused a weakness, maybe it had been stressed from being overpressurised sometime. Maybe someone forgot to carb the beer and thought they’d give it a burst and ended up bursting the keg. Or maybe there was a manufacturing flaw. For sure it didn’t put 20 litres of beer anywhere so someone is pulling your leg about that part at least, which doesn’t inspire confidence in the ‘15psi’ part of the story. 4 litres turns into 20, 40 psi turns into 15, who knows.

Yes I would tend to agree and the story seems a bit fishy to be honest with one person clearly posting a 4L keg then another person conveniently knows that it was a 20L keg which could not be possible based on the original photo. With that said please post your order number on the forum and we can follow the incident up, supply any refund to the owner and also do a bit more research on how the issue happened and report back to the forum with more detail.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

I'm wondering if there is any general time frame for when the updated g20 could be released ?

I would say the new G20 will not be released this year. After carful consideration we feel that it's best if the G20 also has bluetooth so it can talk to the new RAPT Glycol controller. This will improve the overall feature set of the devices and I think it's worth including but these additional features will push out the G20 and the new RAPT glycol controler out until some time in 2025. Sorry about this delay.