KegLand Questions and Answers

[KegLand-com-au]

Yep I got the first batch but it was returned to address some level-sensing issues (which are now resolved with the update).

All good glad to know I'm using the tubes the correct way around (lucky guess!).

For others playing at home I really recommend the can filler if you are canning and even bottling. Makes the process so much more repeatable, less messy and actually more fun. If I get a mate around with two people going hard at can filling then seaming we can crunch through 19L kegs in about 45mins per keg!!

Yes they seem to be a fairly popular unit. We are just about to release a wine pump too with a 10psi pressure switch so you can feed non-carbonated products to the RAPT can and bottle filler. So this will make the device quite useful for wine bottles. With non-carbonated products this pump will fill a wine bottle in about 20seconds.

 

[andriesellis]

Hey @KegLand-com-au .

I have a G20 and going to bypass the front controllers so I can control my fermentors cooling and heating with RAPT controllers. While doing this upgrade, I thought of also replacing the current barbed fittings with 1/2" BSP x 1/2" barbed fittings so I can use the insulation hoses which I already have. I was wondering if the change in diameter of the tube would have a negative impact on the performance.

 

[KegLand-com-au]

Hey @KegLand-com-au .

I have a G20 and going to bypass the front controllers so I can control my fermentors cooling and heating with RAPT controllers. While doing this upgrade, I thought of also replacing the current barbed fittings with 1/2" BSP x 1/2" barbed fittings so I can use the insulation hoses which I already have. I was wondering if the change in diameter of the tube would have a negative impact on the performance.

https://kegland.com.au/products/jointech-13mm-barb-x-female-connector-with-auto-shut-off
https://kegland.com.au/products/jointech-1-2-inch-bspt-x-male-connector-with-auto-shut-off

Yes the insulation hoses that are a good idea and eventually this will be the standard setup. I would also recommend the above Jointech fittings and use the 13mm barb on both ends of your hoses and then use the 1/2" threaded ones on the fermenter and the chiller.

Eventually our glycol chillers will use all these jointech fittings. They are also compatible with the CPC branded quick disconnects too.

 

[aaron.g]

Hey @KegLand-com-au .

I have a G20 and going to bypass the front controllers so I can control my fermentors cooling and heating with RAPT controllers. While doing this upgrade, I thought of also replacing the current barbed fittings with 1/2" BSP x 1/2" barbed fittings so I can use the insulation hoses which I already have. I was wondering if the change in diameter of the tube would have a negative impact on the performance.

Is there a guide you are following to bypass the front controllers? Any more info would be great thanks!

 

[andriesellis]

https://kegland.com.au/products/jointech-13mm-barb-x-female-connector-with-auto-shut-off
https://kegland.com.au/products/jointech-1-2-inch-bspt-x-male-connector-with-auto-shut-off

Yes the insulation hoses that are a good idea and eventually this will be the standard setup. I would also recommend the above Jointech fittings and use the 13mm barb on both ends of your hoses and then use the 1/2" threaded ones on the fermenter and the chiller.

Eventually our glycol chillers will use all these jointech fittings. They are also compatible with the CPC branded quick disconnects too

Is there a guide you are following to bypass the front controllers? Any more info would be great thanks!

I have not actually done it yet, but basically, these are the power to the pumps. They are 12V, so you'll need 12V transformers that you plug into the rapt controller to power the pump.

I'll most likely remove the the jack they added to connect the temperature probe, solder the pump power cables to the sockets, then I can simply use the jack to connect the transformer.

 

[clickeral]

Hey whats the dimensions of the Series X.1 Kegerator? and they can still hold 4 19L cornies correct? would it fit 8 9.5L cornies? (I know I can only serve 4 at a time) https://kegland.com.au/products/ser...el-kegerator-base-unit-with-50cm-ss-drip-tray

Any differences to highlight between the T bar and standard 4tap fonts?

I have managed to make a space for another kegerator/keezer (inside the house) but am limited in space, like the look of the grand deluxe 2 door but at almost 1.5M wide doesn't fit into the space I have, dont like the look of the Series X plus as id rather 2 doors

Debating if I go this route or build a 300L keezer (6 19L or 12 9.5L) as id also use it for some conditioning

Ive got an few fridges in my carport/garage and id like to get rid of the oldest one (its got a 50L keg and a 9.5L (fits a 19L tho) in it currently) I can move that into an existing fridge im running taps straight off the kegs which has either 4x19L or 8X9.5L depending on what ive got filled

 

[clickeral]

Hey do you have a 3/4" male to 5/8" female BSP adapter?

 

[Prost]

I know they are not meant to be used for this, but I use the 8l Oxebar Kegs to ferment under pressure. I do small 12 liter batches and usually split those in two for different yeasts, dry hop etc. Of my six kegs two started leaking after only two years, so I would love to find an alternative. I haven't followed this thread in a while, are there any plans for Kegland to produce smaller pressure rated fermenters?
Prost!

 

[Ballaratguy]

I know they are not meant to be used for this, but I use the 8l Oxebar Kegs to ferment under pressure. I do small 12 liter batches and usually split those in two for different yeasts, dry hop etc. Of my six kegs two started leaking after only two years, so I would love to find an alternative. I haven't followed this thread in a while, are there any plans for Kegland to produce smaller pressure rated fermenters?
Prost!

This happened at a craft brew show recently in Melbourne
It let go at 15psi and put 20 Lt of beer over the ceiling of the venue. The venue operators weren’t impressed

 

[Its_damo_t]

Any updates or eta on the rapt glycol controller? I see the firmware mentioned on the gitlab a year ago is in testing 2 months ago.
Currently looking to get setup with glycol. Is it an addon unit or will it be built in to the chiller?

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

This happened at a craft brew show recently in Melbourne
It let go at 15psi and put 20 Lt of beer over the ceiling of the venue. The venue operators weren’t impressed
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Hopefully an isolated failure and noone was injured... Is it being returned to KL for analysis/root cause findings?

 

[Ballaratguy]

I think it was a manufacturer/distributer one at their stand
Definitely not the first of their plastic stuff that’s failed

 

[Vic]

This happened at a craft brew show recently in Melbourne
It let go at 15psi and put 20 Lt of beer over the ceiling of the venue. The venue operators weren’t impressed
View attachment 124673

The keg only holds 4L. Where did the other 16L come from???

 

[Ballaratguy]

It was a 20Lt one apparently

 

[Vic]

It was a 20Lt one apparently

Your picture of the exploded PET keg shows a 4L one. The 20L one is a completely different shape. Just check the KL website. The picture appears staged as this is a catastrophic failure inconsistent with a pressure of 15PSI.

 

[ozdevil]

It was a 20Lt one apparently

The above is a 20litre keg

the below is the 8l keg

the pic in the one that you said explode to me looks to be the 8l


doesnt matter what spilt over the ceiling .

this still can be due to operator error not just a manufacturers issue

 

[Prost]

This happened at a craft brew show recently in Melbourne
It let go at 15psi and put 20 Lt of beer over the ceiling of the venue. The venue operators weren’t impressed
View attachment 124673

Hard to get 20 liters in a 4 liter keg.
Anyway, there was talk of a smaller Fermzilla, was that project dumped?

 

[andriesellis]

I have not actually done it yet, but basically, these are the power to the pumps. They are 12V, so you'll need 12V transformers that you plug into the rapt controller to power the pump.

I'll most likely remove the the jack they added to connect the temperature probe, solder the pump power cables to the sockets, then I can simply use the jack to connect the transformer.

I'm kinda done with this and documented the process into a PDF file which I shared in my google drive:

 

[Ballaratguy]

Just going by what I was informed about this
Personally I wouldn’t use plastic pressure vessels unless I knew they had been pressure tested
I’ve seen too many photo’s of plastic ferments that have had similar problems. (supplied by the same company )

View attachment 124676

The above is a 20litre keg

the below is the 8l keg

View attachment 124677

the pic in the one that you said explode to me looks to be the 8l


doesnt matter what spilt over the ceiling .

this still can be due to operator error not just a manufacturers issue

my understanding is that they are rated to 34 psi (or there about) so if it blew at 15psi I doubt if it was operator error

 

[Half Pint]

Photo is a 4 litre vessel with the bottom broken out. You can look at it all day and it won’t tell you the story of what happened. Maybe someone dropped it sometime and caused a weakness, maybe it had been stressed from being overpressurised sometime. Maybe someone forgot to carb the beer and thought they’d give it a burst and ended up bursting the keg. Or maybe there was a manufacturing flaw. For sure it didn’t put 20 litres of beer anywhere so someone is pulling your leg about that part at least, which doesn’t inspire confidence in the ‘15psi’ part of the story. 4 litres turns into 20, 40 psi turns into 15, who knows.