Dedicated Braumeister Guide, Problems & Solution Thread

[zoigl]

I don't know how much the price difference is between the new and the old, but if you could manage with the old why change?

The pumps stopped working, the only reason that I changed.

 

[Fatgodzilla]

Don't change the tap keep the original, what damage have you done?

Pushing a hose onto the tap, the nozzle went up. Push it back down but tap not working now. Will have a good look at it over weekend, post pictures if I can't fix.

 

[zoigl]

I happen to be in the market for the new controller and have a perfectly good old controller, so may be a swap is in order (plus cash). How much cash do you want on top of the swap?

PM me, how old is your control box? I'm looking at possible compatibility issues. The temperature probe has a different plug and needs changing with the new box, so a new silicon seal will be required otherwise, mine just plugged in.
My BM 50 dates from March 2010.

 

[scomet]

Okay, I am slack

Please dont be it will cost you $$, with my old engineering hat on (retired and loving it) opening and cleaning the pump imo is essential after every brew - the balance holes in the impeller must be kept clean these are hydraulic balance holes (not dynamic) they allow the impeller to float in the mag drive pump if there're clogged the impeller will rub at the rear, wear out quickly reduce the pumps (limited) efficiency and importantly reduce your brewing efficiency / taste...... its easy to do, flip the machine after cleaning to dry, spin off the motor, simples. I filter, to start its a pita, then its just habit! easy.....

 

[Coalminer]

Pushing a hose onto the tap, the nozzle went up. Push it back down but tap not working now. Will have a good look at it over weekend, post pictures if I can't fix.

The nylon insert has been dislodged
remove the tap and look into the delivery end to see if the holes line up

 

[EalingDrop]

The nylon insert has been dislodged
remove the tap and look into the delivery end to see if the holes line up

Would this be a suitable replacement?

https://www.kegland.com.au/high-temperature-silicone-oring-for-1-2-bsp-20mm-id-x2-5mm-bs117.html

 

[Black Devil Dog]

The nylon insert in mine shifted and the flow became little more than a trickle. It was a real pain in the arse when it happened.
Motivated me to change to a 3 piece ball valve, haven't looked back.

 

[EalingDrop]

Crap, I was refering to the O rings replacement. Never thought the Nylon sleve would shift, but I'd imagine it'd be a ball ache trying to move back into place.

 

[f00b4r]

Crap, I was refering to the O rings replacement. Never thought the Nylon sleve would shift, but I'd imagine it'd be a ball ache trying to move back into place.

Vice, rubber mallet and a bit of patience.
I had a tap that leaked below 30C (?) And they sent me a new plastic sleeve rather than a new tap, if you have a vice then it isn't that hard to swap it; the tolerances for it working properly must be fairly tight.

 

[Coalminer]

Take care. I don't know if all taps are the same but the insert in my 2013 vintage tap has a hole on either side but one is slightly smaller.
good to check BEFORE mash/boil.

 

[Fatgodzilla]

The nylon insert has been dislodged
remove the tap and look into the delivery end to see if the holes line up

Yep, that is what I think happened. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Fatgodzilla]

The nylon insert in mine shifted and the flow became little more than a trickle. It was a real pain in the arse when it happened.
Motivated me to change to a 3 piece ball valve, haven't looked back.

Was that an easy removal / replacement? Where did you source the new valve from?

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Piece of cake to do, just need a couple if shifters to do the job.


I bought mine from Craftbrewer, but their website shows they're currently out of stock, as is Grain and Grape, so you might have to hunt around.

You'll need the 3 piece ball valve, an adapter to mount the ball valve to the Braumeister and a hose barb. Use some heavy duty thread tape (grey) also.

 

[finley44]

Has anyone upgraded their older 50 l control box and still have their old control box in working order? I am interested in replacing my new and upgraded replacement. It has too many bells and whistles for me, and it the face gets fogged up.
Otherwise, I will have to get my old box repaired, the pumps switch gave up the ghost.

I’m thinking of buying the new controller for my Bm50 want to sort out a trade?

 

[zoigl]

I am still trying to sort out getting my old control box repaired so as to give me an idea what I would need $ to swap with some one here. My new control box does not have the wifi adapter.

 

[finley44]

Ok let me know, not too fussed with wifi

 

[lost at sea]

whats the price on a new bm50 controller worth?

 

[zoigl]

I can not remember exactly, I spoke with G & G by phone and ordered it that way. My visa card suggests that I paid $623-80 but I think that included some yeast as I took advantage of the postage costs. You could contact G & G

 

[finley44]

https://www.grainandgrape.com.au/pr... 50L--speidel-braumeister-controller-50-litre

$550.00 plus postage, pm on its way.

 

[Beerandpies]

Does anyone else have trouble maintaining steady boil with the 50L brau

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Does anyone else have trouble maintaining steady boil with the 50L brau

I have the 20 litre made a hood for mine to keep a reasonable boil happening, somewhere MHB put up a post explaining the reason for a lower than vigorous boil.

 

[Beerandpies]

I have the 20 litre made a hood for mine to keep a reasonable boil happening, somewhere MHB put up a post explaining the reason for a lower than vigorous boil.

I use an over the side element

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I use an over the side element

From what I remember of Marks post there was some reasonable reasoning for the boil rate of the BM, hopefully he will reply.

 

[Beerandpies]

Ok cheers

From what I remember of Marks post there was some reasonable reasoning for the boil rate of the BM, hopefully he will reply.

 

[Hopsta]

Does anyone else have trouble maintaining steady boil with the 50L brau

I have the 20 and don’t get a vigorous boil, like I did with my previous nasa burner. Having said this I also don’t get boilivers anymore. And TBH a vigorous boil is not needed it just needs to boil.

 

[Brewtus]

I also didn't get a reliable rolling boil, especially in the winter.I use a cut to fit gym mat around the outside. It gets to temp faster and boils more reliabliy. You can see it here https://beerbackhome.com/the-brewery
It only cost about $13 with enough to cover the HLT (12L urn).

I have the 20 and don’t get a vigorous boil, like I did with my previous nasa burner. Having said this I also don’t get boilivers anymore. And TBH a vigorous boil is not needed it just needs to boil.

 

[Black Devil Dog]

Does anyone else have trouble maintaining steady boil with the 50L brau

Sometimes mine seems to be a bit lack-lustre if I don't have the hood on. Once the hood's on, the boil definitely becomes more vigorous.
My hood is a large S/Steel mixing bowl with a 150mm hole cut into it.

Interestingly, the boil off rate doesn't seem to be that much different whether using a hood or not.
Disclaimer (Only compared it once and was boiling water).

 

[adimacca]

I was thinking of ordering a pair of fine mesh filter replacements from BAC brewing but the shipping from Italy is fairly expensive. I'm in the Canberra area and I would be keen to see if anyone else wanted to order anything from them to make the postage more worthwhile. Or if anyone can recommend a cheaper option for better built fine mesh filters.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I got rid of the mesh filters, got sick of jabbing my fingers, got light gauge perforated plate from Geordie Stainless, or there should be someone in Brisbane sells S/S mesh or perforated plate, you only need off cuts.

 

[Black n Tan]

why not get them from Grain and Grape? https://www.grainandgrape.com.au/products/search?search=mesh