Cardinal Pell's no show

[Tropico]

This will be bigger than "Bye Bye Bronwyn".

EDIT: Ooops "Goodbye Bronwyn"......forgotten already.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Ratio of believers and non believers is too one sided.
Though if there was a God and he made us in his image, and the non believers and believers meet halfway, that would make God a monkey.

 

[Parks]

That's reminds me of a thing Ricky Gervais said -

"If there really was a god, why did he make me an atheist?"

 

[seamad]

I just want to know if Stu has had a beer

 

[manticle]

I have.

 

[seamad]

me too

edit: Cheers

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I just want to know if Stu has had a beer

Nope

I had 4...

But God was not on my side for the meat raffles.....

 

[Camo6]

I care SFA for God....whoever he is.

Religion is ********.

That is all.

Nope

I had 4...

But God was not on my side for the meat raffles.....

As penance for your blasphemy you are deprived of meatballs with tonight's spaghetti.




But relax. The beer fountain and strippers are still a goer.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Ah yes, but last week, when the same God decided not to appear, I won.

And strange as it may seem, but I have only ever won meat at raffles when God wasnt around ( and the local coppers and D's also drink there, and they havent spotted God either ...plenty of others, but not God )

This whole no God thing might work out financially...in the long term...( for accounting purposes I have not included extra's like beer and the odd bourbon )

At least if I put money into the meat raffles I get a return every now and again.


.........Now......better write a letter to the ATO and ask them about negative gearing meat raffle prizes on non religious grounds. gota be something in it, surely.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

As penance for your blasphemy you are deprived of meatballs with tonight's spaghetti.

But I had 4 beers.

 

[seamad]

When I was in the surf club we did seafood tray raffles at Fisherman's Wharf on Saturday Arvo's, God must have really liked us because one of the boat crew always won the last draw of the day, even without buying a ticket, divine intervention if you like.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

None of that malarky at ours.

We have the BEST security when it comes to the draw.....old codgers.

Nothin gets past them....Nothin.

In fact if you get drawn twice they arc up about it......

 

[Camo6]

My FIL always wins the meat raffles at the Merimbula RSL and bowling club much to the disgust of the locals.
Of course you'll ******* win when you spend a hundred bucks on tickets. Gotta roll my eyes when he tries to look surprised.

 

[Tropico]

Pell and his cronies to show their muscles at Royal Commission video link: the untouchables.

 

[Tropico]

The Earthly Paradise Heaven
The Lascivious The Church
The Gluttonous The Lawyers
The Avaricious and Prodigal The Tax-man
The Slothful Immigration
The Wrathful The politicians
The Envious
The proud The police
Ante-purgatory The rest of us

 

[Dave70]

Not at all.

My first point which you ignored is that "Athieism is the assertion of the non-existence of God."

FTFY

 

[pcmfisher]

If you are seeking evidence of God's existence, that makes you an agnostic (= "I don't know") rather than an atheist.

Atheism is about what you believe, agnosticism addresses what you know or claim to know. If you do not believe there are gods you are an atheist. If you do not know there is no gods you are agnostic.
As Stu said he is an agnostic atheist. Someone that believes in god but does not claim to know in an agnostic theist.


Agnosticism is a more honest position to take and doesn't disrespect believers. Simply, when asked if God exists I reply 'I don't know'.

Yes, I don't know, and until such a time as I don't have to rely on faith, I don't believe there is one either.




The problem with atheism is that its a believe system too - many athiests hold a conviction for it just as strongly as believers in religion.

Atheism is not a belief system. It has not dogmas or tenants. It simply addresses a belief in god. If you believe in god you are a theist, if you don't you are an atheist. That's like saying that I strongly don't believe that the earth is flat.


And I think that religious believers who says they know God to exist have arrived at this position not from physical evidence but from metaphysical evidence.


Metaphysical evidence? Really?
Maybe it would be better for them not to say they know god exists as well.

 

[TimT]

Atheism is not a belief system. It has not dogmas or tenants.

In definition maybe. In practice, however....

(The pedant in me is restraining the urge to say 'of course atheism doesn't have 'tenants'. It's definitely not a rental apartment' Oh crap, there he goes again....)

 

[pcmfisher]

I don't believe anything. Belief by definition is accepting that something is true regardless of evidence.

Na, that's faith you are talking about.

Faith is accepting something is true regardless of the evidence or lack of.
Faith is gullibility.
Faith is the excuse people give for believing something for which there is no evidence. If there was evidence, you wouldn't need faith.

You can believe things for good reason and bad reasons.
You do not choose to believe anything either, you either believe it or you don't.

Evidence and reason are a good reason. They are a pathway to truth. Not absolute truth, by the way. I'm not sure it is possible to have absolute certainty in anything and think it is a useless concept anyway.

Faith, on the other hand, tells you nothing. Faith is a bad reason.

Faith is believing in something that you know aint so.

 

[pcmfisher]

Atheism is not a belief system. It has not dogmas or tenants.

In definition maybe. In practice, however....

(The pedant in me is restraining the urge to say 'of course atheism doesn't have 'tenants'. It's definitely not a rental apartment' Oh crap, there he goes again....)

Yeah, tenants, like residents in heaven.