2016 NSW Mid Year Case Swap

[Dan Pratt]

Oh and I transferred the chocolate vanilla porter to secondary today for one week on 150g cocao nibs and 2 vanilla beans. Sitting at 18.5c and got some yeast activity causing some airlock action, should be fully attenuated.

 

[Reman]

Does oak go well in a kellerbier? I'm guessing you just need to show it a picture of a barrel so it doesn't over-oak

 

[Mardoo]

If that's the case maybe show it a picture of some ****ies

 

[Weizguy]

Can you split batch and oak half?

Maybe I can do that post-ferment. Is there a legitimate concern. I have prepped on oak tea to add.

Does oak go well in a kellerbier? I'm guessing you just need to show it a picture of a barrel so it doesn't over-oak

Keller is cellar, and it's a German casked lager, served off-cask at cellar temp (10-13°C) and at cask carbonation (very low).

Seems best if I don't oak.

 

[Dan Pratt]

If its a lager, oaked would be very dominant? Sounds like the best thing for a lager

 

[Weizguy]

*I don't think the oak would be dominant, seeing that it has a fair whack of late Hallertau and is close to being an Oktoberfest style

Kellerbier - All Grain . Date: 3/04/2016

Batch Size: 24.00 L
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85 % Equipment: 75 litre Techni-ice esky w manifold and 78 litre keggle

Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.28 kg Premium Pilsner (Weyermann) Grain 67.9 %
1.55 kg Munich II (Weyermann) 32.1 %
70.00 gm Hallertauer [4.00%] (60 min) Hops 34.9 IBU
53.00 gm Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.00%] (0 min) (whirlpool) Hops -
2.5 cup Light toasted oak French oak chips (Misc - optional)
1 Pkgs Munich Lager II - PC release (Wyeast Labs #W2352) [Starter 2000 ml] Yeast-Lager

Measured Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.014 SG

Bitterness: 34.9 IBU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 5.4 %
Ferment at ~ 10°C

 

[Dan Pratt]

^ ^ alrighty. sounds pretty good.

 

[shacked]

*I don't think the oak would be dominant, seeing that it has a fair whack of late Hallertau and is close to being an Oktoberfest style

Kellerbier - All Grain . Date: 3/04/2016

Batch Size: 24.00 L
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85 % Equipment: 75 litre Techni-ice esky w manifold and 78 litre keggle

Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.28 kg Premium Pilsner (Weyermann) Grain 67.9 %
1.55 kg Munich II (Weyermann) 32.1 %
70.00 gm Hallertauer [4.00%] (60 min) Hops 34.9 IBU
53.00 gm Hallertauer Mittelfrueh [4.00%] (0 min) (whirlpool) Hops -
2.5 cup Light toasted oak French oak chips (Misc - optional)
1 Pkgs Munich Lager II - PC release (Wyeast Labs #W2352) [Starter 2000 ml] Yeast-Lager

Measured Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.014 SG

Bitterness: 34.9 IBU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 5.4 %
Ferment at ~ 10°C

I'm really looking forward to this one!!! I had some great Kellerbiers a couple of years ago when I went to visit my sister who lives in Wurzburg in Southern Germany.

 

[yum beer]

1 pratty1 - Chocolate Vanilla Porter - US05 yeast
2 contrarian - wet hopped IIPA
3 barls
4 mikeyr - John West IPA V12 - 12 months refinement and it can now strip paint!
5 paulyman - Tooths 1917 Crystal Ale (Pg 281 Bronzed Brews)
6 n87 - likely IPA of some sort
7 Reman - Rye Bock
8 DJR
9 welly2 - Oatmeal Stout
10 Josh
11 marksy - India Pale Lager
12 shacked - Belgian pale ale - WLP530
13 Cortez - Oaked Strong Ale
14 Gr390ry - Red Rye IPA
15 mattfos01 - Belgian Golden Strong WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale yeast
16 Waggastew - Schwarzbier (Gordon Strong - Modern HB Recipes)
17 Les the Weizguy - something to showcase the Munich Lager II yeast [PC - W2352] - Kellerbier (o.g. 1.053)
18 Clayton
19 yum beer - Arrogant ******* attempted clone
20 Fatgodzilla - Woolies Homebrand lager,kg of Homebrand sugar and yeast cultivated from my beard
21 Peter80
22
23 n87 - Oaked Baltic Porter - W-34/70
24

A heart attack ain't gonna stop me.

 

[Dan Pratt]

1 pratty1 - Chocolate Vanilla Porter - US05 yeast
2 contrarian - wet hopped IIPA
3 barls
4 mikeyr - John West IPA V12 - 12 months refinement and it can now strip paint!
5 paulyman - Tooths 1917 Crystal Ale (Pg 281 Bronzed Brews)
6 n87 - likely IPA of some sort
7 Reman - Rye Bock
8 DJR
9 welly2 - Oatmeal Stout
10 Josh
11 marksy - India Pale Lager
12 shacked - Belgian pale ale - WLP530
13 Cortez - Oaked Strong Ale
14 Gr390ry - Red Rye IPA
15 mattfos01 - Belgian Golden Strong WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale yeast
16 Waggastew - Schwarzbier (Gordon Strong - Modern HB Recipes)
17 Les the Weizguy - something to showcase the Munich Lager II yeast [PC - W2352] - Kellerbier (o.g. 1.053)
18 Clayton
19 yum beer - Arrogant ******* attempted clone
20 Fatgodzilla - Woolies Homebrand lager,kg of Homebrand sugar and yeast cultivated from my beard
21 Peter80
22
23 n87 - Oaked Baltic Porter - W-34/70
24

A heart attack ain't gonna stop me.

Bloody love Chinook!!

What recipe are you going with?

 

[yum beer]

case swap Arrogant *******

Original Gravity (OG): 1.066 (°P): 16.1
Final Gravity (FG): 1.017 (°P): 4.3
Alcohol (ABV): 6.48 %
Colour (SRM): 17.3 (EBC): 34.0
Bitterness (IBU): 72.9 (Average)

90.01% American 2-Row
7.02% Crystal Medium - simpsons
2.97% Special-B

1.2 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (Boil)
1.2 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 45 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil)
0.8 g/L Chinook (11.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma)


Single step Infusion at 66°C for 90 Minutes. Boil for 90 Minutes

Fermented at 18°C with WLP007 - Dry English Ale

 

[Weizguy]

Is that the (successful) CYBI recipe?

 

[yum beer]

its a mix of several recipes....none that I could find where completely happy with the result being a clone. A bit of brewer info and reviews from brewers on many sites brought me to this recipe.
Lots of recipes seemed too heavy on the hops and the malt bill is contencious. Differing reports put the brewer at 90% 2 row 10% other malt,...some say special b some say crystal 120.....i split the difference a little, 10% spec b seemed too dark. Plenty of recipes where coming up at 90IBU, with 70+ at bittering, seemed way too much for me, I have only had it once but thought there was more flavour hop than bittering, as such I pulled the early additions down a little.
I think it will come out OK, we'll see. As long as I can stick away a bottle or 3 for myself.
Very least will get 20+ chances for feedback and 20+ opinions on how to improve if needed.

 

[Josh]

I'll be brewing my Red IPA next week.

1 pratty1 - Chocolate Vanilla Porter - US05 yeast
2 contrarian - wet hopped IIPA
3 barls
4 mikeyr - John West IPA V12 - 12 months refinement and it can now strip paint!
5 paulyman - Tooths 1917 Crystal Ale (Pg 281 Bronzed Brews)
6 n87 - likely IPA of some sort
7 Reman - Rye Bock
8 DJR
9 welly2 - Oatmeal Stout
10 Josh - Red IPA
11 marksy - India Pale Lager
12 shacked - Belgian pale ale - WLP530
13 Cortez - Oaked Strong Ale
14 Gr390ry - Red Rye IPA
15 mattfos01 - Belgian Golden Strong WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale yeast
16 Waggastew - Schwarzbier (Gordon Strong - Modern HB Recipes)
17 Les the Weizguy - something to showcase the Munich Lager II yeast [PC - W2352] - Kellerbier (o.g. 1.053)
18 Clayton
19 yum beer - Arrogant ******* attempted clone
20 Fatgodzilla - Woolies Homebrand lager,kg of Homebrand sugar and yeast cultivated from my beard
21 Peter80
22
23 n87 - Oaked Baltic Porter - W-34/70
24

 

[gone brewing]

Thought I'd jump in before all the places are taken.

1 pratty1 - Chocolate Vanilla Porter - US05 yeast
2 contrarian - wet hopped IIPA
3 barls
4 mikeyr - John West IPA V12 - 12 months refinement and it can now strip paint!
5 paulyman - Tooths 1917 Crystal Ale (Pg 281 Bronzed Brews)
6 n87 - likely IPA of some sort
7 Reman - Rye Bock
8 DJR
9 welly2 - Oatmeal Stout
10 Josh - Red IPA
11 marksy - India Pale Lager
12 shacked - Belgian pale ale - WLP530
13 Cortez - Oaked Strong Ale
14 Gr390ry - Red Rye IPA
15 mattfos01 - Belgian Golden Strong WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale yeast
16 Waggastew - Schwarzbier (Gordon Strong - Modern HB Recipes)
17 Les the Weizguy - something to showcase the Munich Lager II yeast [PC - W2352] - Kellerbier (o.g. 1.053)
18 Clayton
19 yum beer - Arrogant ******* attempted clone
20 Fatgodzilla - Woolies Homebrand lager,kg of Homebrand sugar and yeast cultivated from my beard
21 Peter80
22 Gone Brewing - Dubbel
23 n87 - Oaked Baltic Porter - W-34/70
24

I'll have a go making a dubbel with 3787 - trappist high gravity

Cheers
****

 

[waggastew]

Got my Schwarzbier into bottles yesterday, very relieved as any beer I plan on sharing often ends up with some problem along the way.

Looking at the bottles and what's on the list it's going to take me a while to get through them all!

 

[barls]

bottling it hopefully today.

 

[Weizguy]

its a mix of several recipes....none that I could find where completely happy with the result being a clone. A bit of brewer info and reviews from brewers on many sites brought me to this recipe.
Lots of recipes seemed too heavy on the hops and the malt bill is contencious. Differing reports put the brewer at 90% 2 row 10% other malt,...some say special b some say crystal 120.....i split the difference a little, 10% spec b seemed too dark. Plenty of recipes where coming up at 90IBU, with 70+ at bittering, seemed way too much for me, I have only had it once but thought there was more flavour hop than bittering, as such I pulled the early additions down a little.
I think it will come out OK, we'll see. As long as I can stick away a bottle or 3 for myself.
Very least will get 20+ chances for feedback and 20+ opinions on how to improve if needed.

I have made a few attempts at the exalted ******* ale and got some great feedback, so I may have some relevant comments.

Just to confirm, did you use the CYBI podcast from the BN guys as one of your references. They say it was cloned, or soooooo close.

Tried to link to the site, but I get a message advising that the domain name has expired.

 

[yum beer]

Actually listened to the podcast after ordering the grain already milled and mixed. Was very close to their recipe, added a little extra Special B on brew day.
Upped the hops a little after listening, from 75ibu up to 90.
Brewed yesterday, tasted pretty good going into the fermenter.

 

[barls]

1 pratty1 - Chocolate Vanilla Porter - US05 yeast
2 contrarian - wet hopped IIPA
3 barls - belgian dark strong/ dubbel ( its too strong to be a dubbel and on the bottom end of a dark strong.)
4 mikeyr - John West IPA V12 - 12 months refinement and it can now strip paint!
5 paulyman - Tooths 1917 Crystal Ale (Pg 281 Bronzed Brews)
6 n87 - likely IPA of some sort
7 Reman - Rye Bock
8 DJR
9 welly2 - Oatmeal Stout
10 Josh - Red IPA
11 marksy - India Pale Lager
12 shacked - Belgian pale ale - WLP530
13 Cortez - Oaked Strong Ale
14 Gr390ry - Red Rye IPA
15 mattfos01 - Belgian Golden Strong WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale yeast
16 Waggastew - Schwarzbier (Gordon Strong - Modern HB Recipes)
17 Les the Weizguy - something to showcase the Munich Lager II yeast [PC - W2352] - Kellerbier (o.g. 1.053)
18 Clayton
19 yum beer - Arrogant ******* attempted clone
20 Fatgodzilla - Woolies Homebrand lager,kg of Homebrand sugar and yeast cultivated from my beard
21 Peter80
22 Gone Brewing - Dubbel
23 n87 - Oaked Baltic Porter - W-34/70
24
bottled mine today and its big and black just like fatz like things.