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Let's work them out. I could pay $100 for 1kg, or I could pay $50.

When I run the numbers though Beersmith and SWMBO's "if you buy that I'm buying curtains" accounting software I get a savings of $50.

Sometimes proving savings is as good as making money appear from nowhere when the Minsiter of Finance has fangs.

If you buy 1kg of POR for $35 and sell half of it for $35 ... you get the kittenskins, for nothing. NOTHING I TELL YOU!

I love economics. I love POR in beer - it tastes like capitalism.

Far fetched rant is unlike you Nick. I think I bought POR for even less you claim via a recent BB of Wolfy`s, certainly not my hop of choice hence they sit in my freezer, if i dont use them in 3 years I`ll throw them out. not much lost!. I dont buy any brewing ingredients on price alone. Who has the freshest yest in Australia? no plug but he does because he turns it over.

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I dont buy any brewing ingredients on price alone.

best way to approach it (and that comes from a brewer on a constant budget). I'm generally the same with food ingredients too.

If I can take advantage of low prices to either try something new or get something of an expected quality cheaper I will. I won't usually buy something purely because it's cheap (and when I have, I've often been disappointed).

Does any of this kind of discussion ever enter any of the 'let's buy a few millmasters from the US so we get them cheaper' threads?
 
OK. I understand that the larger the market and the more competition, the more downward pressure there should be on prices.

But the difference between what we pay here and what they pay there is beyond outrageous. We literally pay up to five times as much for the same hops? FIVE TIMES?? What possible justification could there be for that? How can shipping hop pellets across the Pacific incur a fivefold increase in price? And that's comparing retail/retail, not wholesale/retail.

Australian consumers are being royally screwed somewhere along the line, yet again.
I'm afraid you just have to accept it. I've ranted on a number of occasions about the disparity between craft beer here and the US ($12.00 a six pack there as opposed to $20.00 plus here and I mean locally produced not imported US). I really think it comes down to what you first mentioned, larger market, more competition. Anyway I think I'll partake of the buoyant South Pacific peso and purchase me some US hops. This is the internet people, local cartels beware, the choice is vastly larger.
 
Does any of this kind of discussion ever enter any of the 'let's buy a few millmasters from the US so we get them cheaper' threads?
Not really.

But then again the OP doesn't expressly ask a question relating to such a conversation in those threads.
 
You may have already come across this but there is a homebrew scaled recipe for Pliny put out by Russian River (link below). Dunno how it differs from Jamil's (except that Russian River don't use Warrior in Pliny) but I can say that I've got this one in primary now and it is looking pretty great so far (although I have made one or two changes based on my process, preferences, etc).

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Thanks Bum,

It looks a bit to Jamil's in brewing classic styles (although I dont have the book with at the moment to check). To be fair Jamil says that it's a Pliny the Elder 'inspired' beer, so I may have been wrong to call it a clone. Good one to ferret away for later reference though.
 
JC
If u search the what are u brewing thread III ull find the elder clone I used. Very well received.
 
Buy from who and where ever you like. I buy from G&G, craftbrewer, dave in greensborough, the brewers den and even brewcraft on sundays after 12. And i should not forget online shops here and overseas. Also from members on this forum, including the infamous chinese hops. **** i am a whore.

anyway any perlick 525ss tap purchasing advice or are we all still on our high horse?

At the reisk of answering a post in this thread... I got 4 from here... great products and quick delivery at the right price.

:icon_cheers:
 
Obviously not enough as we couldn't get any allocation this year :(

Didn't seem to have a problem buying a kg of this years PoR for $29 (retail price) just recently from Ellerslie (que nasty ph calls), now bear with me while i determine the mark up....

All for businesses making a profit and supporting quality HBS's but "stone the crows" 2-3-400% markups are gouging in my books.

Each to their own..

Smashin
 
Ive been eyeing off Jamil's Pliny the Elder clone. Ross has warrior, but its a little more than some other varieties (to be expected I guess). Its good to know that super alpha would make a reasonable sub though. A beer that big needs a lot of planning, so its something to think about.

Actually made that one recenlty and subbed the warrior for galena. Oh so looovely.

Now back on topic for the pissing contest :D

BYB
 
man, a lot of ranting from foamy mouth angry people here - Viva La Revolucin!. sure a LHBS wont be able to compete with hopsdirect etc in 500g lots, but i myself am a man of variety. i don't want 500g of every variety of hops i'm going to use, a lot of people seem to miss that LHBSs have their place. i'd like to see the people spouting how much of a gravy train hop retailing is try and start up their own LHBS :lol:
 
Oz dollar now 97c

I'm ordering all of next years hops !

Batz
 
Dammit... Dollar reaches parity just as money starts to run out around here. Wife's been off work for 18 months and things are tightening up.

I have my eye on so much stuff and no matter how cheap it is... Can't afford it.

Poo!!
 
Dammit... Dollar reaches parity just as money starts to run out around here. Wife's been off work for 18 months and things are tightening up.

I have my eye on so much stuff and no matter how cheap it is... Can't afford it.

Poo!!


I feel your pain - the payout from work is long gone and Austudy just doesn't take into account the savings to be made by buying your own mill and 25kg of grain at a time!
 
oh yeah? well I just got a new job and am rolling in cash, cant find anything i want to spend it on though
 
:lol: if only it were the case... I think I wrote that while I was dreaming :D

Here is a picture of our "case" :super: .

hopcase1.jpg
 
Any strange looks from customs?

Heh, yes, the first bloke fell over backwards, then I was sent to the xray machine, and the hugest coincidence is the xray machine bloke was an extract/partials brewer, and after a lot of fast talking there was no "rubber-glove" treatment . *phew*
 
Here is a picture of our "case" :super: .


And there was me about to celebrate the safe arrival of 2.5 keys in the post yesterday, 8 days order to arrival. That case is epic!
 
And there was me about to celebrate the safe arrival of 2.5 keys in the post yesterday, 8 days order to arrival. That case is epic!
I used my dirty socks and jocks as padding in between the layers (quarrantine loves sifting thru that :D ).
I should've left them in for the photo, because they looked spectacular with the dozen or so Rogue/Chimay/SNPA/Kona longnecks they were wrapped in.
 
I used my dirty socks and jocks as padding in between the layers (quarrantine loves sifting thru that :D ).
I should've left them in for the photo
I thought you did ... the photo looks like it has ladies stockings spaced between the hops.
 
Being an Englishman living in the States I take for granted the prices of homebrew ingredients and equipment, after reading briefly through this thread I totally see why you would want to buy from the US but remember LHBS-if it wasnt for local people you wouldnt have these stores and than when you do need something that would take 2 weeks to be shipped you`ll be cursing
Just my 2 cents
Cheers
Paul ;)
 
Being an Englishman living in the States I take for granted the prices of homebrew ingredients and equipment, after reading briefly through this thread I totally see why you would want to buy from the US but remember LHBS-if it wasnt for local people you wouldnt have these stores and than when you do need something that would take 2 weeks to be shipped you`ll be cursing
Just my 2 cents
Cheers
Paul ;)

I live in a city of over 400,000 people. There is only one HBS that sells hops and grain and they're terrible and expensive and the guy that runs the place is a fountain of crap. All the other "homebrew" shops sell cans of expensive goo and 2 year old packets of S23 to people recommending they ferment at 28C. I'm serious - HBS here are just awful.

I have to drive for an hour north (through the backblocks of Brisvegas) to find people who know how to make beer, not homebrew. It just happens that there is another big city right by me otherwise I'd buy everything from overseas.
 
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