Donske, that recipe looks a great.Donske said:My old man has asked for a big stinky IPA, and who am I to argue.
This is an idea I've been playing with for a while and I've got no idea what the finished product will be like, the 0 minute additions are being thrown in the cubes;
Black RyePA 1 (Cascadian Dark Ale)
Original Gravity (OG): 1.075 (°P): 18.2
Final Gravity (FG): 1.015 (°P): 3.8
Alcohol (ABV): 7.86 %
Colour (SRM): 32.1 (EBC): 63.2
Bitterness (IBU): 104.4 (Tinseth - No Chill Adjusted)
75% Pale Malt
13.5% Rye Malt
6.5% Caramunich III
3% Carafa III malt
2% Chocolate
1 g/L Simcoe (13% Alpha) @ 90 Minutes (First Wort)
1.2 g/L Chinook (12.1% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil)
1.9 g/L Chinook (12.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
2.9 g/L Simcoe (13% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
0.7 g/L Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) @ 90 Minutes (Mash)
0.0 g/L Whirlfloc Tablet @ 10 Minutes (Boil)
0.5 g/L Yeast Nutrient @ 10 Minutes (Boil)
Single step Infusion at 66°C for 90 Minutes. Boil for 90 Minutes
Fermented at 18°C with Safale US-05
Recipe Generated with BrewMate
Pratty1 said:Donske, that recipe looks a great.
Will you dry hop this one or do you get enough aroma from the 0mins addition?
Hi Al,A3k said:------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11.30 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -
7.50 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -
[SIZE=medium]Hi Dan,[/SIZE]Pratty1 said:Hi Al,
I see you've added some salts to the beer
With these amounts what is the ratio of So4/CaCl ?
So4 - Calcium Sulphate
CaCl - Calcium Chloride
I usually run with a 6-1 ratio having the sulphate at about 280ppm and the chloride at around 50ppm and am interested to know what you run at to see if a lower ration of say 3-1 on pale ales will still bring the hops forward as intended from the additions of the salts.
Dan
Hi Al,A3k said:[SIZE=medium]Hi Dan,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I use rain water, and add the salts for the calcium/pH etc.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]This comes out with a ratio of 1.7:1. (126ppm SO4, 72ppm Cl according to beersmith – how much gets into the final product, I’m not sure)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I haven’t played around heaps with increasing the ratio much past 2:1 in IPAs/APAs, and to be honest, I’m not sure how far people push the ratio towards SO4, and I guess I’ve been playing it safe as I don’t want to overdo it. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I do like my IPAs/APAs, but there is room for improvement in the hop profile. Maybe I need to start playing with the ratios a bit more. I’ll definitely look into it more.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The beers are definitely hop forward with this ratio, BUT you’re gonna get that with the recipes. Salts may just make the hops shine a bit more.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Thanks for the feedback. Sorry I haven’t helped you out much. I've played around with salts for pH, not so much hop flavour.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Thanks,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Al[/SIZE]
I wouldnt be adding any gypsum to the FV. just wait till the next batch is due and do it then.A3k said:Yeah, i'll definitely give it a go next time. cheers for the tip.
I wonder if it's worth adding some gypsum to the fermenter.
I think i'll give it a miss until next IPA though, I can always try a little in a glass and see if I notice the difference.
Hi Mardoo,Mardoo said:Brewed an all-cascade APA with NZ, OZ and US Cascade today. Good fun! Lotsa hops! I'm really liking the 3 Cascade Combo (chips with that sir?).
OG 1.062
IBU 45
Maris Otter 44.2%
Wey Bohemian Pilsner 44.2%
Simpson's Pale Crystal 6.8%
Pale Simplicity candi syrup 4.8%
Into the fermenter it tastes awesome!
thanks heaps for sharing... rethinking everything now.Liam_snorkel said:looks like it will turn out fine to me except you're wasting your time (IMO) with such a small amount of munich, it's a base malt, use it as one.
if you have time have a listen to this talk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sSKHzmhrzY
OK, Pliny (sort-of) update.Les the Weizguy said:FWIW, I hit my numbers on the Pliny clone and it's remarkable that I got 75% efficiency on a big beer like this.
That wort is biiitter, too.
Am now recovering the wort from all the hop trub and protein trub, by filtering through a large seive. Looks like another 2 litres of disgustingly bitter wort, as well as the 26 litres that went in the 30 litre fermetnor.
Maybe I'll do a forced ferment with the recovered wort...
Les out
*edited for spelling only
Hey Dan, Yeah, I did a lot of research on the Epic APA before doing this one. It sounds great! I wanted to start messing with this grain bill so I decided not to follow the Epic recipe. Not that you'll taste the grain bill much...this one was meant to be a palate for the hops as I'm hoping to get some of the differences in the character of the Cascade from each country. I did even splits of the three different Cascades for:Pratty1 said:Hi Mardoo,
I made an EPIC all Cascacde APA about 2 months ago and it was pretty decent. It used Cascade layered right though the boil and DH.
What was your hop schedule?
Dan
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