Victorian 2017 Xmas Case Swap - Recipe

[technobabble66]

Yep. Pretty much.
As per my thoughts above, I'd see how his batch goes, and tweak from there. I reckon it'll be a choice between biscuit & aromatic, otherwise keeping the rest of it as above (post #104).

 

[Nullnvoid]

Sweet as . Sounds good to me. I'm liking it all!

 

[technobabble66]

Lol. I'm much the same.
(Don't forget you're the one in charge, so if you want anything changed just say the word [emoji6])


(... Like, say, adding some oats...)

 

[Mardoo]

I won't get to the batch this weekend. I got whacked with the flu stick on Monday and it's just been getting worse. My poor new heart is in shock I will definitely get to it next weekend though, unless someone wants to drop round and get the grain and hops and brew it themselves.

 

[malt junkie]

With ya there Mardoo this flu SUX. My aches and pains from old age and youthful stupidity, now have their own aches and pains from this crap flu. I need sleep.

 

[technobabble66]

Just wait for its 2nd visit ... [emoji40]

 

[technobabble66]

And chop chop, lazy boy!
I thought now that you've got the new heart you'd have no excuses!

Only kidding [emoji1]
Next week will definitely be fine [emoji4]
Hope you're (both) feeling better ASAP.




... Hey, maybe we could use both biscuit AND aromatic. Why choose between 2 awesome malts! [emoji57]

 

[Mardoo]

And Carahell, and Toffee!!!

 

[Nullnvoid]

I thought we were keeping the grain bill simple

That sucks Mardoo and malt junkie. I also have it and it ***** around with my asthma every time. Still can't breathe.

And yeah wait for the second time to come around.

 

[Mardoo]

You suck Russell. Keep your freakin' second time to yourself.

 

[technobabble66]

Just out of interest, is there anyone who wants an Amber Ale instead of an Amber IPA?

The thought occurred to me that we could be over engineering this to cater for 2 options when maybe everyone is happy with the single option.

In terms of output volume (the original/primary reason we went down the dual path) we could still boost the OG with some dex and DME in the boil, so the mash size isn't a limiting factor.
So we still make the beer like an Amber Ale, then add in 5% dex & 5% DME. This takes a, say, 5.5% Amber to a 6.3% Amber (eg: 5kg grain per 22L cube, at 75% extraction eff).
I'm just thinking that if everyone wants the IPA version it might be easier to chuck the powders into the kettle rather than everybody have to do it individually later on. Also makes the hops a little more straightforward.

If there's still some who prefer an Amber rather than the IPA then that's fine and we continue on with that strategy. Just thought I'd check were not over complicating things.

 

[Nullnvoid]

I would prefer the ipa as I'm enjoying ipas at the moment. But happy to go with the majority.

 

[technobabble66]

The 2 versions of the beer from Mardoo's recipe.
The first is done to 5.5%:

And for those who like the graph:

The second is the same grist, but with 5% (0.275kg) each of dex & DME added, plus moar hops:

Which takes it to 6.3%.

How's that look?

 

[technobabble66]

I would prefer the ipa as I'm enjoying ipas at the moment. But happy to go with the majority.

I'm similar. I'll probably brew whichever one we don't do at the swap (as well as the one we do). So I'm happy either way.

I'd have to check the thread, but I don't recall anyone NOT wanting an IPA or being adamant about having an Amber Ale instead of the IPA. (Hence my query about over engineering [emoji57]).

 

[Dr_Rocks]

Just out of interest, is there anyone who wants an Amber Ale instead of an Amber IPA?

The thought occurred to me that we could be over engineering this to cater for 2 options when maybe everyone is happy with the single option.

In terms of output volume (the original/primary reason we went down the dual path) we could still boost the OG with some dex and DME in the boil, so the mash size isn't a limiting factor.
So we still make the beer like an Amber Ale, then add in 5% dex & 5% DME. This takes a, say, 5.5% Amber to a 6.3% Amber (eg: 5kg grain per 22L cube, at 75% extraction eff).
I'm just thinking that if everyone wants the IPA version it might be easier to chuck the powders into the kettle rather than everybody have to do it individually later on. Also makes the hops a little more straightforward.

If there's still some who prefer an Amber rather than the IPA then that's fine and we continue on with that strategy. Just thought I'd check were not over complicating things.

I am happy to do whatever.

Will someone post the agreed on "expected recipe" prior to the event? Keen to add it to my list in beersmith. If I were to take notes on the day I'm sure they would be illegible as the night wore on.

 

[Mardoo]

OK guys, looks like I'll be able to brew my proposed recipe this weekend. I managed to cobble together a 3V out of all the bits I've accumulated. I've been gypsy (and ill) so long I've never managed to get my real system built. But now, it's in sight!

I'm brewing it at the 1.073-ish gravity, and brewing 33L so I can run one ferment at full gravity, and dilute one back to 1.050-ish. Best thing? My 6-year old daughter is totally stoked about brewing with me! I'll report in post-brew.

 

[technobabble66]

Great to hear you're getting a little brewing window organized!

Fwiw I'd advocate brewing a 1.053-5 version, and boost one batch up to ~1.065-70 with some dex & DME. Utilizing that option for the big brew at the swap should result in more cubes for all who want them, which was the purpose for proposing it.
However I appreciate that if you were to brew a small batch for yourself, I'd generally go strong and then dilute.
Just my opinion, and whichever way you decide will be great [emoji6].

 

[Mardoo]

Mate, if I took people's advice I'd be healthy, wealthy and wise...maybe it's time to start, eh?

We'll see what happens. However, if I was making one strictly for myself, I'd be likely to thin it out with sugar, and at starting 1.070-ish, that gets into the dropping-the-third-pint-because-I-forgot-to-hold-on range, so lower makes some solid sense.

 

[Mardoo]

Well, TB and MJ, I totally agree about the aromatic. Since I'm targeting this towards fruity hops it's absolutely the go. If I were going for stanky dank hops I might choose the biscuit, but here, aromatic wins the day.

I ended up going with higher gravity to dilute back. Mofox1 gets it

This might be my only Katie Perry powered brew day

 

[JB]

Very good to see you back in the game & kicking off with a family brew day - nothing better!