Mountain Goat Steam Ale

[syl]

Ok, had a good look on here and can only see very old threads so I hope I am not pissing anyone off with my lack of Google-Fu!

I am working to make a Steam Ale clone for SWMBO. She loves this stuff, I love Hightail and I have 200 litres of Amber/APA's already

From their website, they have the following in it's blurb:

The Steam is a crisp, certified organic ale. We incorporate a slap of wheat malt in the grist make-up and ferment it cool. We use Cascade and Citra hops to give it a fresh, zippy finish. Great as the weather warms up. 4.5% ABV, 22BU’s.

Link

Now I am going to bump it to 28 as per the old recipe instructions I found years ago (it also used to say 28 IBU's on the Goat website!!!). So it is not exactly a clone.

I see that there was previously mention of Hallertau too, but that has been dropped of late as well. Purely left with a Citra/Cascade combo. The last thing was a galaxy dry hop, which seems quite dangerous, so I am going leaf and very late!

I am in the very early phases, just hoping anyone could shed some light? I emailed the brewery, but no response as of yet!

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 75.10 l
Post Boil Volume: 67.60 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 60.00 l
Bottling Volume: 59.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.043 SG
Estimated Color: 4.9 EBC
Estimated IBU: 27.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 83.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 89.9 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7.50 kg Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) ( Grain 1 75.0 %
2.50 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 Grain 2 25.0 %

21.00 g Cascade [5.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 5.1 IBUs
21.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 11.0 IBUs


3.17 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 5 -
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 3.6 IBUs
30.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 7.8 IBUs



1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 8 -

3.17 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Other 9 -
30.00 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
30.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
20.00 g Galaxy [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs


What do you guys think? Has anyone here made one previously and have some notes? I may have to buy a 6-er tonight and do some research!

 

[GalBrew]

I find that steam ale has a strong bready, biscuity malt flavour that I don't think would come from pilsner malt. I would try an ale malt instead. MO or GP perhaps? I am not entirely sure, could be a combo of ale and pils malts?

 

[BeerNess]

Had one at the Albion in Newcastle a couple of weekends ago, from what i recall very crisp very sharp, a fair amount of hop character but I wouldn't have picked it being dry hopped, just late/flameout/whirlpool?

Of course if you are a no-chill brewer like myself then dry hopping is a good compensator. I've also started experimenting with cube hopping at about 30-45 minutes after flameout and whirlpool when I'm transferring to my cube, trying to emulate the hops character of brews that are run through a heat exchanger etc... :unsure:

Also the Galaxy, I love it and use it a lot as late addition and dry hop in my own brews but didn't pick up on it in the Steam Ale... but I had a few under my belt already by that stage.... :chug:

Good beer, I wish you much success at providing SWMBO something that she approves of, and subsequently signs off on more brewery projects!!! :drinks:

 

[pressure_tested]

I'd email the brewers. They might give you the recipe. They told me the full IPA recipe. Awesome brewery that support homebrewers

 

[timmi9191]

http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/75049-mountain-goat-steam-ale/?hl=%2Bmountain+%2Bgoat

 

[syl]

http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/75049-mountain-goat-steam-ale/?hl=%2Bmountain+%2Bgoat

Well I know for a fact they use US05. Want to at least keep that part! Also, why are people posting recipes in the hops section??!! Didn't think to look there!

I'd email the brewers. They might give you the recipe. They told me the full IPA recipe. Awesome brewery that support homebrewers

Already have, waiting on a reply

Had one at the Albion in Newcastle a couple of weekends ago, from what i recall very crisp very sharp, a fair amount of hop character but I wouldn't have picked it being dry hopped, just late/flameout/whirlpool?

Of course if you are a no-chill brewer like myself then dry hopping is a good compensator. I've also started experimenting with cube hopping at about 30-45 minutes after flameout and whirlpool when I'm transferring to my cube, trying to emulate the hops character of brews that are run through a heat exchanger etc...

Also the Galaxy, I love it and use it a lot as late addition and dry hop in my own brews but didn't pick up on it in the Steam Ale... but I had a few under my belt already by that stage....

Good beer, I wish you much success at providing SWMBO something that she approves of, and subsequently signs off on more brewery projects!!!

I am no chill, so some light dry hop will be done! With the Galaxy I will be very gentle, I've had it ruin beers before. A handful of flowers per cube for a couple of days.

The SWMBO has been a champ of late, with the brewery now taking over a full room in the apartment: 200L of beer fermenting at the moment, 2 keg fridges, 1 ferment fridge, braumeister 50L, bookshelf of bottles/adjuncts and equipment! Half of the freezer is full of hops and the 15A is in the kitchen too

I find that steam ale has a strong bready, biscuity malt flavour that I don't think would come from pilsner malt. I would try an ale malt instead. MO or GP perhaps? I am not entirely sure, could be a combo of ale and pils malts?

I don't particularly get that strong malt at all? Previous incarnations I have seen flying around the net have always had 75/25 pils/wheat.

 

[GalBrew]

I find that it's not 'malty' in a sweet heavy sense. But has a biscuity thing that I don't get in any of my pils based beers. Maybe the organic malts they use taste a little different??

 

[syl]

Any other feedback at all guys? I will knock this down on grand final eve (after the bulk buy !!!)

 

[Spiesy]

I don't get anything biscuity out of the malts myself... clean, dry and bitey...

 

[syl]

I don't get anything biscuity out of the malts myself... clean, dry and bitey...

Yes that's what I get, clean and quite dry so I will make sure I get it down as low as I can

 

[stakka82]

I have had this countless times from the bottle and never been impressed.

Had it at the brewery and it was a very different beast, very enjoyable.

A delicate beer best served IMO.

 

[GalBrew]

I must admit I had some over the weekend and got no biscuity flavor out of the beer either. Very clean and mild malt palate.

 

[syl]

Well Dave from Goat sent me the recipe, I don't know the ettiquette on this, whether I should post it or not. But I will definitely be dropping one down!

 

[timmi9191]

Post it.. Unless he's requested otherwise its in the public domain

 

[timmi9191]

Or at least pm it to me..

 

[Yob]

Post it, it means fuk all, he quite readily hands it out, if I had more grey matter or thought to write it down a few years ago it'd be posted already.. Send him a bottle of your version and in sure he'd appreciate it, you nay even get feedback

 

[pressure_tested]

Yeah he is cool with sharing. If anyone wants the IPA recipe he gave me permission to post

 

[stakka82]

Would love to see both...

 

[slash22000]

Likewise.

 

[brewbienewbie]

POST IT don't be a cocktease