Help With Speckled Hen Clone

[kenworthy]

Ive tried the following recipe its not ready for tasting but Ive got to do a 50gal brew for friends so any improvements would be appreciated.
23 litres
3kg Golden Promise
1.5 kg Marriss Otter
.5kg Crystal
Hops
Challenger 28gr. 60 mts
Challenger 14gr 15mts
Golding 14gr 15mts
Golding 28 gr 5 mts
Tried a step mash started at 40c worked up to 65c over 90 mts then did a sparge at 70 for 30 mts
Wondering about an addition of fuggles somewhere to give it a bit extra any ideas?

 

[Pumpy]

Looks about right Kenworthy this is mine dont know where it originated

Old Speckled Hen
English Ordinary Bitter


Type: All Grain
Date: 31/07/2005
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Brewer: Pumpy
Boil Size: 52.79 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7408.00 gm JWM Traditional Ale Malt (5.9 EBC) Grain 84.3 %
719.58 gm TF Crystal (145.8 EBC) Grain 8.2 %
173.00 gm JWM Wheat Malt (3.9 EBC) Grain 2.0 %
40.28 gm Challenger [7.50%] (90 min) Hops 20.2 IBU
29.22 gm Challenger [7.50%] (15 min) Hops 6.8 IBU
29.22 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (15 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
58.43 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (1 min) Hops 0.8 IBU
0.53 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
486.77 gm Cane (Beet) Sugar (0.0 EBC) Sugar 5.5 %
2 Pkgs Irish Ale (Wyeast Labs #1084) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 32.4 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 19.5 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 8300.58 gm
Sparge Water: 40.46 L Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 22.2 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 21.65 L of water at 73.6 C 65.6 C 75 min



Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 226.6 gm Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 15.6 C Age for: 28.0 days
Storage Temperature: 11.1 C

Notes

 

[kenworthy]

Looks about right Kenworthy this is mine dont know where it originated

Old Speckled Hen
English Ordinary Bitter


Type: All Grain
Date: 31/07/2005
Batch Size: 40.00 L
Brewer: Pumpy
Boil Size: 52.79 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7408.00 gm JWM Traditional Ale Malt (5.9 EBC) Grain 84.3 %
719.58 gm TF Crystal (145.8 EBC) Grain 8.2 %
173.00 gm JWM Wheat Malt (3.9 EBC) Grain 2.0 %
40.28 gm Challenger [7.50%] (90 min) Hops 20.2 IBU
29.22 gm Challenger [7.50%] (15 min) Hops 6.8 IBU
29.22 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (15 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
58.43 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (1 min) Hops 0.8 IBU
0.53 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
486.77 gm Cane (Beet) Sugar (0.0 EBC) Sugar 5.5 %
2 Pkgs Irish Ale (Wyeast Labs #1084) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.2 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.6 %
Bitterness: 32.4 IBU Calories: 90 cal/l
Est Color: 19.5 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 8300.58 gm
Sparge Water: 40.46 L Grain Temperature: 22.2 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 22.2 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 21.65 L of water at 73.6 C 65.6 C 75 min



Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Volumes of CO2: 2.4
Pressure/Weight: 226.6 gm Carbonation Used: -
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 15.6 C Age for: 28.0 days
Storage Temperature: 11.1 C

Notes

 

[kenworthy]

Thanks for that pumpy seems we are on the same track ill do a single infusion next time hope this comes up Im hopeless at this posting business

 

[Pumpy]

Kenworthy ,

Try the wheat malt 100Gms gives a nice head .

Your step mash will not hurt , I am unsure if the Bairds Malt is Fully modified perhaps it is .

At least the Maris Otter will be more authentic .

 

[kenworthy]

I can pick up Marris Otter next time Im in the city you suggested 100gr of wheat malt for head would that be above the 173 gr thats in your recipe?Also you recomend 486.77grms of beet sugar what does that do thanks again for your help

 

[Pumpy]

I can pick up Marris Otter next time Im in the city you suggested 100gr of wheat malt for head would that be above the 173 gr thats in your recipe?Also you recomend 486.77grms of beet sugar what does that do thanks again for your help

If you are to use sugar it should only be as a flavouring adjunct and never just as source of alcohol. This therefore rules out the use of white sugar and dextrose. Small amounts of some dark sugars can add subtle flavour characteristics and are particularly good in English style beers.

Never recommend more than 500 grams in a 25 Litre batch.

If you use try Soft brown sugar in Ales and Soft Dark sugar in Dark ales it is the residual Mollasses that is supposed to offer some flavour

Can I notice the difference ? personally No , but then I dont let it spoil a good recipe .

Pumpy

 

[stillscottish]

Here's the one I just put down last week.
It's based on a recipe from Homebrewtalk.com



4.3 kg Pale Malt
0.5 kg Crystal Malt
0.5 kg Wheat malt
45.00 gm Northern Brewer (90 min)
15.00 gm Goldings, East Kent (15 min)
10.00 gm Goldings, East Kent (5 min)
0.45 kg Golden Syrup
0.10 kg Brown Sugar
1/2 tsp Gypsum

Mashed at 66 degC

Wanted to use Nottingham but all I had was S-04

Got 25l in fermenter at 1.063


It's about a year since I had the real thing but this doesn't taste too bad so far.

Campbell

 

[PhilS]

Better late than never Clone Brews lists an Old Speckled Hen clone

3.5kg 2-row pale malt
113g Wheat Malt
340g Crystal malt
230g Cane sugar

20g 8% Challenger 90 min boil (Bittering)

14g EK Goldings 45 min boil (flavour)
14g Challenger 45 min boil (flavour)

28g EK goldings 1 min boil (aroma)


19Litres, 5.2% ABV
OG 1.051 - 1.053
FG 1.010 - 1.012
IBU 36

Wyeast 1084 or 1028

This one looks similar to yours Pumpy

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