Dano's All Grain Feral Hop Hog Clone

[n87]

I did burn a hole in my bag on this brew. scooped pretty much all the grain out. but there was a fair amount of flour in the bottom... that may be the cause.

It may not be a perfect representation of the Hop Hog, but my early hypothesis holds true. still a great drop, and my best to date.

would love it to turn out a hop hog... but hell, even if im close should be an awesome beer

:beerbang:

 

[jkhlt1210]

n87, speaking of Hop Hog, I brewed v3 today. Here are a few cheeky photos.

Just after mash in.

Transferring to the fermenter.

Hey danestead on beersmith 2 recipe for Fishers Hop Hog uses spalter for bittering..... What's your thoughts?

 

[danestead]

Hey danestead on beersmith 2 recipe for Fishers Hop Hog uses spalter for bittering..... What's your thoughts?

I cant really help you with that im sorry. I dont even know the slightest about spalter and have never used it. I just use magnum because there is a bucket loud of info out there on how great it is for a clean bitterness and it means I can save my nice citrusy american hops for more brews.

 

[jkhlt1210]

I cant really help you with that im sorry. I dont even know the slightest about spalter and have never used it. I just use magnum because there is a bucket loud of info out there on how great it is for a clean bitterness and it means I can save my nice citrusy american hops for more brews.

All good mate I want to try yours first anyway!

 

[doon]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/lifestyle/a/22340786/hop-on-to-ferals-hog/

 

[carniebrew]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/lifestyle/a/22340786/hop-on-to-ferals-hog/

"The recipe's no secret. The current Hop Hog has cascade, centennial and amarillo hops from America's 2013 harvest,"
The secret was "not so much what's in the beer as how we apply it"

 

[danestead]

[font=GuardEgyp-n']"The recipe's no secret. The current Hop Hog has cascade, centennial and amarillo hops from America's 2013 harvest,"[/font]
[font=GuardEgyp-n']The secret was "not so much what's in the beer as how we apply it"[/font]

Nice!

I think a few different stories geta round though depending on who you speak to and Id emagine it changes year tl year depending on availability of ingredients.

The more and more I think about this recipe and brewing in general, I think that you could give 10 different brewers with 10 different ideas and systems the same recipe, and you will get a slightly different end result. Different water profile, chilling technique, fermentation temp., yeast count, dry hop technique. It makes me wonder that although Ive brewed Dr Smurtos Golden Ale at least 5 times, does it really taste like the one Dr Smurto brews at home?

 

[MastersBrewery]

Nice!

I think a few different stories geta round though depending on who you speak to and Id emagine it changes year tl year depending on availability of ingredients.

I'd have to agree, the version I had some 3 years back at the brewery was fresh and had a real dank aroma, awesome beer, I don't think it's as good now though.

MB

 

[jkhlt1210]

Nice!

I think a few different stories geta round though depending on who you speak to and Id emagine it changes year tl year depending on availability of ingredients.

The more and more I think about this recipe and brewing in general, I think that you could give 10 different brewers with 10 different ideas and systems the same recipe, and you will get a slightly different end result. Different water profile, chilling technique, fermentation temp., yeast count, dry hop technique. It makes me wonder that although Ive brewed Dr Smurtos Golden Ale at least 5 times, does it really taste like the one Dr Smurto brews at home?

Hey danestead I'm getting my ingredients for this brew tomorrow! I'm doing your revision 2 recipe and see if I do it justice. Pick up grains tomorrow I'll probably brew it Sunday night. I can't wait!

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

Can I use Wyeast 1056 American Ale liquid for this?

 

[danestead]

Can I use Wyeast 1056 American Ale liquid for this?

Yeah of course you can. Or 1272.

1056, us05 and wlp 001 are the same strain.

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

Cool I'm going to punch this out next weekend:

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Hop Hog Clone

Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 49.76 l
Post Boil Volume: 45.76 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 44.00 l
Bottling Volume: 44.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 14.5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 52.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.46 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (5.9 EB Grain 1 86.8 %
0.94 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 2 9.6 %
0.35 kg Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 %
43.63 g Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 31.6 IBUs
13.96 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 5 3.6 IBUs
13.96 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 2.3 IBUs
13.96 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 4.2 IBUs
13.96 g Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 5.0 IBUs
13.96 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 5.4 IBUs
22.00 g Brewbrite (Boil 10.0 mins) Spice 10 -
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 11 -
11.47 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Day Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
11.47 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
11.47 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
11.47 g Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
11.47 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 9.75 kg
----------------------------
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 25.42 l of water at 74.0 C 65.6 C 75 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 34.10 l water at 75.6 C

Probably will do some sort of step mash - start off cool, 64-65ish and ramp it up after 20 mins and mash for longer - I generally end up doing this in most cases anyway.

Is there any reason why this needs to be a 90 minute boil?

I'll prob chill with ice in the laundry sink styles as I generally no chill, but sounds like it has its benefits. The dry hops will be halved (estimated) as half of it will be cubed.

 

[danestead]

Is there any reason why this needs to be a 90 minute boil?.

No not really. Just cos! No actually I think I did that because my Braumeister has a weak boil and also because if I do a 90min boil, I get more evaporation which means I can sparge with more water which bumps my efficiency up a tad. The malt pipe is pretty full with this recipe so any increase in efficiency I can get helps in the end.

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

No not really. Just cos! No actually I think I did that because my Braumeister has a weak boil and also because if I do a 90min boil, I get more evaporation which means I can sparge with more water which bumps my efficiency up a tad. The malt pipe is pretty full with this recipe so any increase in efficiency I can get helps in the end.

Sweet - Yeah my 3 ring burner can boil pretty well so I'll prob just do 60 mins. Reckon it will be a decent brew - I'll post back as to how it goes. Those Braumeisters are an expensive bit of gear!

 

[n87]

i cubed 50L of REV3 yesterday, cant wait till its done.

 

[danestead]

i cubed 50L of REV3 yesterday, cant wait till its done.

Nice!

Ive got revision 3 in the keg however Im on rations. I need 3 long necks for the royal show comp, 10 stubbies to bottle up to let people take home at my 30th and the rest will be on tap at the 30th. That doesnt leave much for the party so I think ill only be able to spare 1 stubbie to put away to do my taste comparisons. Out of the fermenter it was tasting very promising though and I think the extra Citra and Amarillo helped.

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

Hi Dano and Co,

I am brewing this as we speak - just added the first hop addition. Cheers dano for the recipe. I have tweaked it a little bit - mainly the dry hopping and the bittering hops at the start. Added a little simcoe with the magnum as they are around the same AA%.

I make 44L batches - everything (except the dry hop) is for 44 litres, the dry hopping schedule is for 20-22 litre batch. Really looking forward to trying this out . When you see feral brewery stuff is like 60 bucks for 16 beers it makes giving it a crack def worth a go.

Recipe: Hop Hog Clone TYPE: All Grain
Style: American IPA
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 14.5 EBC SRM RANGE: 11.8-29.6 EBC
IBU: 65.9 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 40.0-70.0 IBUs
OG: 1.050 SG OG RANGE: 1.056-1.075 SG
FG: 1.010 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.018 SG
BU:GU: 1.308 Calories: 427.1 kcal/l Est ABV: 5.2 %
EE%: 72.00 % Batch: 44.00 l Boil: 49.76 l BT: 60 Mins

---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS----------------


Total Grain Weight: 9.75 kg Total Hops: 224.89 g oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.46 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (5.9 EB Grain 1 86.8 %
0.94 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 2 9.6 %
0.35 kg Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 %


Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 25.42 l of water at 74.0 C 65.6 C 75 min

---SPARGE PROCESS---
>>>>>>>>>>-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 22.2 C/22.2 C
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH
Fly sparge with 34.10 l water at 75.6 C

---BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.045 SG Est OG: 1.050 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
45.00 g Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 32.6 IBUs
10.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 7.8 IBUs
22.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 5.6 IBUs
22.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 7.9 IBUs
13.96 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 2.3 IBUs
13.96 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 4.2 IBUs
13.96 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 10 5.4 IBUs
22.00 g Brewbrite (Boil 10.0 mins) Spice 11 -

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
12.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 m Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Cascade [7.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Centennial [8.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0 Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

Dry Hopping (For 20-22 Litre Batches)

8.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Cascade [7.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 19 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 20 0.0 IBUs
6.00 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 21 0.0 IBUs
6.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 22 0.0 IBUs


I reckon this will balance nicely

 

[danestead]

Hi Dano and Co,

I am brewing this as we speak - just added the first hop addition. Cheers dano for the recipe. I have tweaked it a little bit - mainly the dry hopping and the bittering hops at the start. Added a little simcoe with the magnum as they are around the same AA%.

I make 44L batches - everything (except the dry hop) is for 44 litres, the dry hopping schedule is for 20-22 litre batch. Really looking forward to trying this out . When you see feral brewery stuff is like 60 bucks for 16 beers it makes giving it a crack def worth a go.

Recipe: Hop Hog Clone TYPE: All Grain
Style: American IPA
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 14.5 EBC SRM RANGE: 11.8-29.6 EBC
IBU: 65.9 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 40.0-70.0 IBUs
OG: 1.050 SG OG RANGE: 1.056-1.075 SG
FG: 1.010 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.018 SG
BU:GU: 1.308 Calories: 427.1 kcal/l Est ABV: 5.2 %
EE%: 72.00 % Batch: 44.00 l Boil: 49.76 l BT: 60 Mins
---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS----------------
Total Grain Weight: 9.75 kg Total Hops: 224.89 g oz.
---MASH/STEEP PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<<
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.46 kg Pale Malt, Ale (Barrett Burston) (5.9 EB Grain 1 86.8 %
0.94 kg Munich I (Weyermann) (14.0 EBC) Grain 2 9.6 %
0.35 kg Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 %
Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 25.42 l of water at 74.0 C 65.6 C 75 min
---SPARGE PROCESS---
>>>>>>>>>>-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 22.2 C/22.2 C
>>>>>>>>>>-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH
Fly sparge with 34.10 l water at 75.6 C
---BOIL PROCESS-----------------------------
Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.045 SG Est OG: 1.050 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
45.00 g Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 32.6 IBUs
10.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 7.8 IBUs
22.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 5.6 IBUs
22.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 7.9 IBUs
13.96 g Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 2.3 IBUs
13.96 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 9 4.2 IBUs
13.96 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 10 5.4 IBUs
22.00 g Brewbrite (Boil 10.0 mins) Spice 11 -
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
12.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 m Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Cascade [7.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Centennial [8.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0 Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

Dry Hopping (For 20-22 Litre Batches)

8.00 g Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Cascade [7.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 19 0.0 IBUs
8.00 g Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 20 0.0 IBUs
6.00 g Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 21 0.0 IBUs
6.00 g Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 22 0.0 IBUs


I reckon this will balance nicely

Cool!
Was og 1.050 and 65 Ibus what you intended. Could be quite bitter.

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

Cool!
Was og 1.050 and 65 Ibus what you intended. Could be quite bitter.

Point Noted

I'll have to take a gravity reading tonight and see what I achieved and give it a taste. Just put it on ice now.

I have a feeling its going to be pretty nice. While it has a few IBUS, I don't think there is that much noticable difference between a 48 and a 65 IBU, let alone a 55 and a 65 hehe.

Anyway - It is my Mk1 - I haven't tried any of those hops except for cascade and amarillo - so I'm sure even if I haven't hit the nail on the head, it will be a good drop to me .

 

[storeboughtcheeseburgers]

It came out at 1.052 - I had a taste, and I must say - theres a lot going on with this beer! Had a hop hog at the pub a few weeks ago and I can definitely taste the similarity. I purposefully aimed for around 1.050 as thats what I brew most of my beers at.. not really into high ABV tastes - this one came over 2 points so thats pretty sweet - hit my efficiency and then some.

As I said, I usually no chill but this time I did a semi chill. Ice bucketed a ferm and a cube. Prob got a few more IBUs, but this is an Indian Pale, so its meant to be on the bitter side.

Think I've brewed some good stuff - can't wait for it in the bottle in a month .

Thanks for the recipe OP - I think I'll definitely brew it again.