Conical fermentor EOI

[Zorco]

Judanero, this thread has a nice correlation to the fabrication thread we got going.

To help your effort out I've asked my sister in law to help with info. She is a professional importer. I've sent her the image and details of the conical and she will ask one of her customs brokers about cheapest costs.

She will also be able to investigate the supplier.

I'd like to see where this goes and am happy to help out if you like.

 

[Judanero]

That would be great ZC! The fabrication thread is what gave me the initial idea, however once I got the quote for the local hopper with 2" ferrule I thought I'd explore abroad..

The supplier is: Jiangsu Zhengheng Light Industrial Machinery Co., Ltd

They've been very helpful from their end thus far.

 

[Zorco]

All details away, she is onto it. She is a team manager so may get one of her colleagues to help between their other orders.

I don't think there will be anything groundbreaking coming back and the likes of Yob et.al. know the gauntlet.

Can't wait to see though. I'd like a couple. Could you ask if they have a specification on the metal? I might talk to Harry and see if it is good. He fixed those big fermenters and would know how the stainless behaves.

 

[Judanero]

All details away, she is onto it. She is a team manager so may get one of her colleagues to help between their other orders.

I don't think there will be anything groundbreaking coming back and the likes of Yob et.al. know the gauntlet.

Can't wait to see though. I'd like a couple. Could you ask if they have a specification on the metal? I might talk to Harry and see if it is good. He fixed those big fermenters and would know how the stainless behaves.

Thanks heaps ZC, it is appreciated. I've heard back from NSW ports and was advised for a small order(s) it is best to go through a freight forwarder because they will take care of the necessary leg work (sounds good but likely to increase the price) so I've flicked a couple enquiries to different companies to see what transpires.

I'll ask about the metal specs and see what they come back with.

 

[Judanero]

This is what was the specs sent through:

View attachment SS304 Certificate.doc

 

[Judanero]

And here's the drawing for the 60L ones:

View attachment 20160718_Clamp 60L.pdf

 

[Zorco]

Excellent, forwarding now.

 

[Mardoo]

I'd go at least one of the 60L ones, possibly two. Sounds like there are enough VIC ones for a bulk ship.

 

[Judanero]

Once final numbers are organised I will also likely be ordering in some long thermowells as well; I intend to drill a hole large enough to accommodate a silicone stopper/bung with the thermowell running through the centre (through the lid).

They are cheap too, ~$5AUD ea from memory.

 

[Zorco]

What is the mass of each size please?

 

[Mardoo]

Sorry if I missed it on my read through, but do we know anything about wall thickness?

 

[Judanero]

1.5mm thickness

 

[Zorco]

No news today, hopefully tomorrow gents

 

[Judanero]

All good mate, these are the rough weights for each item:


-30L hopper about 8kg about 0.1cbm
-60L hopper about 12kg about 0.13cbm
-2" butterfly valve about 1.5kg

Hopefully I hear back from a couple more as well

 

[Lyrebird_Cycles]

I'm in for a 30l in Melbourne. Since I live near the docks I'm willing to act as distributor / pick up point if you need one.

Judanero, this thread has a nice correlation to the fabrication thread we got going.

Where is this fabrication thread of which you speak?

 

[MastersBrewery]

I'm in for a 30l in Melbourne. Since I live near the docks I'm willing to act as distributor / pick up point if you need one.



Where is this fabrication thread of which you speak?

The fab thread was for brissy. Though we now have three shows of interest from melbourne so might be looking at 2 shipment atleast. Hopefully import and dock fees don't kill this.

 

[Zorco]

Judanero,

Have we any grasp on numbers at this time?

 

[Zorco]

Where is this fabrication thread of which you speak?

This one mate
http://aussiehomebrewer.com/topic/91446-exploring-fabrication-of-ss-conical-fermenter-brisbane-only/

Some excellent engineering ideas started to emerge.

 

[Judanero]

I had it tentatively as six 30L ones + maybe two 60L ones to Newcastle, and three 60L ones to Melbourne.

The supplier has said they will provide an invoice detailing the shipments contents are valued at less than $1000 AUD as evidence, it really is hinging now on the other charges; the lowest of three "port to door" quotes I've had for a LCL by sea has been ~$1200.

I haven't thrown in the towel just yet because I'm waiting on a couple more to come back with some numbers but it is a little disheartening considering the cost to have them fabricated and shipped here is so low but then the cost to essentially unload them from the dock and check the appropriate forms have been filled out (as is my understanding of the applicable fees) costs more than the value of the order.

 

[SBOB]

I haven't thrown in the towel just yet because I'm waiting on a couple more to come back with some numbers but it is a little disheartening considering the cost to have them fabricated and shipped here is so low but then the cost to essentially unload them from the dock and check the appropriate forms have been filled out (as is my understanding of the applicable fees) costs more than the value of the order.

Yeah, but MUA union fees are expensive, so they have to pay them somehow

 

[Zorco]

I had it tentatively as six 30L ones + maybe two 60L ones to Newcastle, and three 60L ones to Melbourne.

The supplier has said they will provide an invoice detailing the shipments contents are valued at less than $1000 AUD as evidence, it really is hinging now on the other charges; the lowest of three "port to door" quotes I've had for a LCL by sea has been ~$1200.

I haven't thrown in the towel just yet because I'm waiting on a couple more to come back with some numbers but it is a little disheartening considering the cost to have them fabricated and shipped here is so low but then the cost to essentially unload them from the dock and check the appropriate forms have been filled out (as is my understanding of the applicable fees) costs more than the value of the order.

My sister in law knows what she is doing. I really hope the numbers come back in our favour.

 

[Zorco]

Cripes I'm itching to hear from this girl!

It is end of financial year so her close out paperwork has been hectic.. And I'm low priority.... I'll ping her tomorrow lads, let's stick with it.

 

[sixfignig]

Keen to stay across this out of interest.

 

[rude]

Yeah, but MUA union fees are expensive, so they have to pay them somehow

If it were foreign labor I'm sure they would pass on the savings

 

[Zorco]

Update.

My sister in law has now involved her Chinese office to contact the seller and finalise the costs on the origin charges.

Still happening folks

 

[Judanero]

Noice, I had a couple more get back to me about prices-locally the best has been ~$800AUD, I contacted the supplier to see if they have a freight forwarder they use and they said it would be $300USD based on 4x30L and 2x60L

 

[gap]

Judanero,

I am interested in 2 30L depending on total price if this is still available.

 

[Mikeyr]

Count me in as a potential too (1x30L)

 

[Zorco]

Is that 300 landed in Australia? Then customs and clearing expenses on top of that?

The engineer in me has spreadsheet desires if you want to set one up?

 

[yankinoz]

Has anyone else noticed that the photo does not match the dimensions in the drawing? According to the drawing, the cone accounts for 64% of the height. In the pic it looks like about 40 percent. I wonder if the pic shows the actual product for sale.

China exports lots of good stainless-steel products, including the brew kettles that most of us use. There's an excellent chance the manufacturer is interested in establishing a market and trust. All the same, I'd want to see one before I'd order.