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Batz

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Hi Brauneister owners,

Just wondering what brewing software you use? I'm finding beersmith next to useless.

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Hi Brauneister owners,

Just wondering what brewing software you use? I'm finding beersmith next to useless.

batz
Im curious What do biab-ers use? Is it that diferant?
 

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In what way?

Although i only have a converted urn i assume would be the same as the proper one.

I use BS2 with the biab settings. If i plan on a sparge i just put less water in at the start and use the difference for sparging.

Seems to work ok. I did biab before converting the urn so just used the sttings i had determined with biab.

Did you biab previously ?

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If i plan on a sparge i just put less water in at the start and use the difference for sparging.

Seems to work ok. I did biab before converting the urn so just used the sttings i had determined with biab.
I'm the same with sparging. I'm an urn biab'er. Brewmate is my software of choice, it gives me the overall numbers and split the water between mash and sparge.
 

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OK I worked out a few things now, looks a little better.
 

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in the mash schedule I have changed mine from infusion to temperature, then you can set the volumes you need for mash in and sparging but the other rests just say heat to "insert desired temp", I have been playing around with BS every time I brew and its getting closer.

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Yea I just set up a 5 step mash looks much better.
 

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much like the constipated accountant, i mange to work it out with a pencil!

Enjoy

James
 

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much like the constipated accountant, i mange to work it out with a pencil!

Enjoy

James

:icon_offtopic: But funny, a couple of weeks ago a guy came to our local post office and asked if there was an internet cafe in town. The post master answered "no , why do you need to send an email?" He answers "no I need to get a phone number" "Well I can lend you a phone book" the PM replies, "Oh yea that'll be good, I never thought of that."

True story.
 

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I use BS2 and do it the same as matho...
 

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This is not meant to sound like me being a smart arse by why do you need a BIAB section in beersmith?

Can't you just adjust the mash in water volume to show a full volume mash, no sparge?

Step mashing can be done via infusion, temperature raising (HERMS, RIMS, Braumeister) or decoction and all options are there in beersmith.
 

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This is not meant to sound like me being a smart arse by why do you need a BIAB section in beersmith?

Can't you just adjust the mash in water volume to show a full volume mash, no sparge?

Step mashing can be done via infusion, temperature raising (HERMS, RIMS, Braumeister) or decoction and all options are there in beersmith.
BS2 automatically calculates the initial strike volume for full volume biab when you tick the biab checkbox. Another difference is it automatically uses a biab absorption factor rather than a traditional absorption. There might be other things too, but essentially you just tick the biab box and it does the rest.

But you could make it work without using the biab profile
 

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This is not meant to sound like me being a smart arse by why do you need a BIAB section in beersmith?

Can't you just adjust the mash in water volume to show a full volume mash, no sparge?

Step mashing can be done via infusion, temperature raising (HERMS, RIMS, Braumeister) or decoction and all options are there in beersmith.
Answering Smurts question and then moving on to some of the other issues.

Don't use the BIAB thingy in BS2 for a Braumeister.

BM's need a sparge.

You want zero 'kettle top' up (of plain water) or you lose sugars and efficiency (I learnt that the hard way). MHB has a great trick: put your malt pipe over a bucket once it has 'stopped' sparging to collect anymore dribbles (and can be sparged again) to hold an emergency amount that you can add near the end of the boil to bring it up to volume if you are below target volume (or use for starters).

I use BS2 and BM. One of the complicating factors is that you don't mash in with a full volume per se. That would flood over the top of the malt pipe if you did and the system wouldn't work as it should (I assume). For a 55L batch you mash in at 53L or so. You have to account later for grain absorbtion (10L), evap loss (say 6L), cooling loss (say 2L), loss to trub etc (say 2L). No debate, you need to sparge with a BM to bring it up to the pre-boil volume of say 63L (example numbers only - depends on grain bill, hop amounts, boil temp & time etc). In the above example that would be a sparge of 20L.
53L into the fermenter will allow for 3L loss to fermenter trub and give you a bottling volume of 50L from a 50L BM. You mash in with 53L NOT 63L.

In the water volumes tab, the key box to get right is the Boil and Fermentation, 'Est Pre-Boil Vol'. Set this correctly as 63 and it will tell you the correct sparge volume (but you need to have an idea of this to be able to set the pre-boil volume :lol: ).

The other key thing is to have the volume correct at mash-in with the mash profile. I make a new mash profile that follows what I am doing, they are all Temperature steps and the first is set as 53L and the rest as zero L added. I work on a rise time of 1oC per minute (it is close enough).

With the BIAB thing ticked in the mash profile it accounts for about 0.6L/kg of grain as absorbtion. With it unticked it is about 1L/kg of grain. I am not sure about this but I reckon I have experienced closer to 1L/kg.Ticking the BIAB thing automatically sets your mash-in volume to full volume (say 63L) which is too much for the BM, leave the BIAB thing unticked in the mash profile.

It is a matter of working out all of the losses correctly and plugging them into BS2 in the appropriate places. Some of it is trial and error.

All the numbers above may vary for your batch, I was just working through one example.
 

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:icon_offtopic: But funny, a couple of weeks ago a guy came to our local post office and asked if there was an internet cafe in town. The post master answered "no , why do you need to send an email?" He answers "no I need to get a phone number" "Well I can lend you a phone book" the PM replies, "Oh yea that'll be good, I never thought of that."

True story.
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