Vic 2016 Xmas Case Swap

[MartinOC]

Someone has to.

This one's Techno's baby. Happy to help-out. Happy to offer suggestions if asked, but ain't gonna step in his toes.

 

[Mardoo]

Yep, that's who I meant

I was really hoping to get my boots in but it looks like the swap will be during Sutra's bad days of her pain cycle, although I might get lucky and that will be the week before. Please, please, please!!!

 

[technobabble66]

Alrighty, time for me to chime in!

I'm not entirely sure who's meant to organising/co-ordinating/initiating what - re: the split of roles between Host, Head Brewer, Head Caterer.
So I'll get cracking on the recipe, gear, setup & brew day brewing - *********, i think i'll have to show up Friday night as well! - and happily leave everything else for Andrew and/or whoever volunteers for Catering to handle.
Has anyone stepped up to organize the catering yet?

Andrew, would you be able to post a few piccies to start getting an idea of the brew-space, number of power points, areas to light up gas burners, water supply/drainage etc? Pretty please!!

The recipe should work out to be very similar to the brewing of the Wee Heavy we did up at Kinglake - similar OG, quantity of grains and caramelisation of a volume of run-off.

So basically, who contributed the gear at that brewing session (and who organised that one?)?
I'm assuming it was mainly Idzy's & Wayne's gear, possibly a Mashtun or so from Jesse? Was anything else contributed?
Are you guys all still attending this one, and can we make use of your gear? I'll start up a PM once i get an idea of who needs to be involved.

The next issue is the ingredients.
What was the efficiency we've achieved for the Wee Heavy and some of the other brews? I was calculating 75%, but i suspect this is wildly optimistic. I noticed the recipe for the Wee Heavy was ~200kg grain, and the OG ended up similar to what we're targeting here.

At 75% effic we need approx;
100kg Belgian Pilsner, 50kg Belgian Pale Ale, 3.5kg Melanoiden.
0.68kg each of Brewer's Gold, Hallertauer Mittlefruh, and Styrians.
(Plus 1kg Dark Candi Syrup per batch, for those that want it)

Can the CleverBrewing Guy provide the grains? I think i'll be able to cover the Melanoiden myself, but the other 150kg (may end up being 200kg given the Wee Heavy grist) will need to be purchased i believe.
Can Hopdealz provide the hops required? If so, can you obtain all of them, Jesse? Otherwise is there anything you'd suggest for subs?

Obviously we'll need to work out a per-cube cost for this. i believe generally ~$20-35 has been the previous few case swaps.

Any other things i need to start covering here?

 

[MartinOC]

I'm not entirely sure who's meant to organising/co-ordinating/initiating what - re: the split of roles between Host, Head Brewer, Head Caterer.

Cocko provides the venue/facilities, then runs-around like a headless chook providing things as required (that people forgot), then stands-around getting tanked. You (as Head Brewer) decide on the recipe, how to use the gear & make executive decisions on any adjustments that need to be made on the fly (now THERE'S a challenge for you...). Food is down to the Head Caterer. Anyone willing to stick their hand-up this time?

*********, i think i'll have to show up Friday night as well! You'd be well-advised to do that, just in case we might need something to be brought-up on the Saturday morning.

The recipe should work out to be very similar to the brewing of the Wee Heavy we did up at Kinglake - similar OG, quantity of grains and caramelisation of a volume of run-off.

So basically, who contributed the gear at that brewing session (and who organised that one?)? 'Twas me, but it was the usual team-effort, so I won't take credit.
I'm assuming it was mainly Idzy's & Wayne's gear, possibly a Mashtun or so from Jesse? Was anything else contributed?
Are you guys all still attending this one, and can we make use of your gear? I'll start up a PM once i get an idea of who needs to be involved.

The next issue is the ingredients.
What was the efficiency we've achieved for the Wee Heavy and some of the other brews? I was calculating 75%, but i suspect this is wildly optimistic. I noticed the recipe for the Wee Heavy was ~200kg grain, and the OG ended up similar to what we're targeting here.

At 75% effic we need approx;
100kg Belgian Pilsner, 50kg Belgian Pale Ale, 3.5kg Melanoiden.
0.68kg each of Brewer's Gold, Hallertauer Mittlefruh, and Styrians.
(Plus 1kg Dark Candi Syrup per batch, for those that want it)

The Wee-Heavy & the one we did at Wayne's place were both calculated at 75% efficiency & we actually achieved MUCH better than that with the same suite of gear, so don't be surprised if it's high-'70's or more. We're obviously getting better at this lark!

Can the CleverBrewing Guy provide the grains? I think i'll be able to cover the Melanoiden myself, but the other 150kg (may end up being 200kg given the Wee Heavy grist) will need to be purchased i believe.

Yep, that tosser from Smartarse Brewing will do as he's bloody-well told, or I'll give him a nipple-cripple until he acquiesces to our demands. Prices are TBA, but it'll be better than normal retail, given the size of the order. Bear in mind that Belgian malts will be kinda exy......

Can Hopdealz provide the hops required? If so, can you obtain all of them, Jesse? Otherwise is there anything you'd suggest for subs?

Obviously we'll need to work out a per-cube cost for this. i believe generally ~$20-35 has been the previous few case swaps.

Any other things i need to start covering here?

I can break-down my brewery & bring-along a HEX, Pump & STC for at least one of the mash tuns (all cam-locks) & hoses. Idzy obviously has one for his. Can't remember Wayne's camlock orientation. Maybe we just leave the third one to do its' own thing? There's always been a balance between getting the fermentables out of 1-2 mash tuns & the dextrins out of the 3rd.

 

[Yob]

Are we aiming for the Friday set up as per normal?

 

[technobabble66]

Definitely!
The aim is to have everything set up Friday. Run water through it to test. Possibly/probably even heat water Friday night for an early strike Saturday morning.

So the plan is to rally/bully/cajole/plead those contributors of gear & ingredients to be there Friday night and we'll set it all up then.

 

[malt junkie]

Friday
Set up- RIS evaluation

Saturday
Brew- Beer evaluation- Swap- Eat- ********

Sunday
Clean up- Recover- Go Home


And if recovering is what Martin was doing last time I saw him, I'd rather skip it and continue drinking.

 

[technobabble66]

Optimistically, if we could squeeze the brew out ASAP, I'd hope to do the majority clean up Saturday night, while no one can feel the pain. At least the normal emptying of the MTs, plus flush everything with water.

And RIS *after* setup!!

 

[Cocko]

Alrighty, Thanks Stu, just the push we needed.

Friday night setup is fine, the whole weekend is allocated to as said.

Brew area is simply a carport - I have racking out the kazoo so stands will be made as required, dont stress it, we will be able to achieve what ever is needed, promise. Power points in carport and around the corner, so no problems with that - all 20 amp too

How is money collected traditionally? For food and ingredients etc.... I am happy to cover things and collect coin on the day? As long as it is not thousands....

BTW: I am on 23 acres so camping is welcome, not much level ground but I am sure you will be able to find a little get away somewhere.

Ok, who wants to get 100 internet points and be minister in charge of catering?

 

[Cocko]

I have a 76L mash tun and HLT - not element, use OTS + a 98L kettle with 3x 2400w elements and all hosing to suit, if needed.

 

[MartinOC]

I have a 76L mash tun and HLT - not element, use OTS + a 98L kettle with 3x 2400w elements and all hosing to suit, if needed.

Woohoo! We can never have enough hot water available with these endeavours.

I'll be bringing along my 70L/40L boilers for doing the Candi syrup + 2 x 4-ring burners, so we should have facility for enough hot water.

Will Timmi want a hot-tub after all that energetic Flamenco dancing?

 

[Cocko]

Will Timmi want a hot-tub after all that energetic Flamenco dancing?

HAHAHA!

 

[Camo6]

Sorry to say but it looks like I'm going to struggle to find the time to get a brew down for this swap. Having not brewed for several months I'm going to need a refresher course just to use my own system. I figure I better pull out now (said Cocko never) to give the next in line time to get one down. So looks like Awesome Fury is up and have updated the swappers list.
Will still attend and partake in the brew, maybe bring a salad along too. I'll even try and brush off the cobwebs so I can bring a keg on the day.
And thanks for the offer via PM Cocko but I'll have to decline. As much as I love being 'big spoon,' I'll probably just chuck the swag in the car and sleep outside. You can still borrow the outfit though.

Two to go WB.



Swappers.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5. VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. mmmyummybeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. Jburke

Reserve Swappers
1. malt junkie
2. WarmBeer
3. Reardo
4. thearn
5.
6.
7.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew


Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5.VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1. TheWiggman
2. Jburke
3. mmmyummybeer
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reardo
10. thearn

 

[Mardoo]

Actually, jburke already bailed earlier in the thread, so you only need to off one of us WB Malt Junkie, you're up.


Swappers.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5. VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. mmmyummybeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. malt junkie


Reserve Swappers
1. WarmBeer
2. Reardo
3. thearn
4.
5.
6.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew


Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5.VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1. TheWiggman
2. Jburke
3. mmmyummybeer
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reardo
10. thearn

 

[jburke]

Ahh thank you for doing that mardoo. Totally forgot.

 

[malt junkie]

Damn, it's going to be tight for time. I'll see what I can throw together.

 

[Camo6]

Nice pick up Madhu.

On a positive note, I'm firing up the rig as we speak. I'll put together a bitser with what I have in the shed. It probably won't be swap-worthy but something easy drinking for the day. I hope.

 

[malt junkie]

same here Camo mashed in 30 minutes ago, nothing fancy but I'll use the cake for an IPA for swap day, Should get it done

 

[mmmyummybeer]

I'm going to pull out of the swap too, so warmbeer its up to you now ​. To be honest I'm not concerned either way, so I recon its only fair to give another brewer a go. I'm also probable going to be a struggle to put a beer together anyway, and just end up just sneaking a commercial in.

Am really looking forward to the day though and trying so many wonderful home brews again. AJ I am hoping your still brewing them awesome sours .


Cheers.

List Now as:

Swappers.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5. VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. WarmBeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. malt junkie


Reserve Swappers
1. Reardo
2. thearn
​3.
4.
5.
6.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew
4. mmmyummybeer

Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80
5.VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1. TheWiggman
2. Jburke
3. mmmyummybeer
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reardo
10. thearn

 

[WarmerBeer]

I'm going to pull out of the swap too, so warmbeer its up to you now ​. To be honest I'm not concerned either way, so I recon its only fair to give another brewer a go. I'm also probable going to be a struggle to put a beer together anyway, and just end up just sneaking a commercial in.

Mwahahaha! My devious plan, which consisted of doing absolutely nothing, has come to fruition.

Gulp, better get brewing, hadn't I?

 

[mofox1]

I'm also probable going to be a struggle to put a beer together anyway, and just end up just sneaking a commercial in.

But I like those! :lol:

 

[Yob]

Gulp, better get brewing, hadn't I?

RIS!!

 

[AJ80]

Taking myself off the cubers list - you're up Wiggman! Still planning on swapping.


Swappers.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80 - possibly some form of altbier
5. VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. WarmBeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. malt junkie


Reserve Swappers
1. Reardo
2. thearn
​3.
4.
5.
6.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew
4. mmmyummybeer

Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. The Wiggman
5.VP Brewing
6. Grainer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1.
2. Jburke
3. mmmyummybeer
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reardo
10. thearn

 

[Grainer]

Haven't brewed for ages so taking off the list..don't see myself brewing for the next month or so..
Swappers.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80 - possibly some form of altbier
5. VP Brewing
6. Reardo
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. WarmBeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. malt junkie


Reserve Swappers
1.
2. thearn
​3.
4.
5.
6.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew
4. mmmyummybeer
5. Grainer Maybe?

Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. The Wiggman
5.VP Brewing
6. Jburke
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1.
2.
3. mmmyummybeer
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reared

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

REAAAAAAARDO!

 

[TheWiggman]

Got the D2 ready and 1762 up on the stir plate, I'll definitely be in with a hopefully non sub par Belgian strong. Refitting the old bottles too because I like to live dangerously.

 

[mmmyummybeer]

But I like those! :lol:

Don't worry I'm sure we will be sneaking some in cornies for the swap day.

 

[jburke]

I'm unfortunately pulling out completely. Bugger.

1. Cocko IAC
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. AJ80 - possibly some form of altbier
5. VP Brewing
6. Reardo
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. mayor of mildura
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. Breakbeer
15. Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. awesome fury (likes goats)
19. WarmBeer
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo
​23. TheWiggman
24. malt junkie


Reserve Swappers
1.
2. thearn
​3.
4.
5.
6.

Attendees (Non-Swappers)
1. droid
2. timmy
3. micbrew
4. mmmyummybeer
5. Grainer Maybe?

Cubists
1. Cocko
2. Idzy
3. Technobabble66
4. The Wiggman
5. VP Brewing
6. mmmyummybeer
7. Nullnvoid
8. DJ_L3THAL
9. Micbrew
10. JB
11. MartinOC
12. Black n Tan
13. Mofox1
14. breakbeer
15.Whiteferret
16. Mudd
17. GrumpyPaul
18. Camo6
19. Yob
20. Siborg
21. Midnight brew
22. Mardoo


Reserve cubists
1.
2.
3.
4. mayor of mildura
5. awesome fury
6. malt junkie
7. WarmBeer
8. droid
9. Reared

 

[micbrew]

That's what I said ... 3 kids later

 

[Midnight Brew]

I think I've run out of bottles by accident. I had intended to swap an American Dark Wheat thinking I had more bottles so at this stage you are all getting a a stout, on the sweeter side without the lactose.