Using Australian Malts or having prostate problems? Read This...

[The King of Spain]

Guest Lurker just gave me a pretty important bit of info so would like to share hence the new post original

I got a great result using yeast nutrient with a LCBA clone (Tonys if you want to look it up) and was not sure if it was the nutrient or the care I took to rehydrate the yeast. The base malt used was BB Galaxy. FG 1050 down to 1008.

What Guest Lurker says rings very true with what a friend of my says who works as a consultant to organic farmers. He says that Australian soils coupled with traditional (not organic) farming leaves means we are just about all zinc deficient. My chiro put me on zinc supplment ages ago, seems to help....

So there you have it. I for one have a dry taste and do not enjoy that "Fanta" taste you get with a high FG with hops like Cascade.

Cheers


Edit that link does not work so copied below

"What malt? If imported maybe dont bother. If Australian, then the zinc in the nutrient seems to make a big difference. If not using in the kettle, then I would 1) boil it to be safe and 2) cut back the amount a bit because I think the recommended dosage allows for some to be left behind in the kettle. "

KOS

 

[Fermented]

Link broken.

Also, consistent beer drinkers should be taking extra zinc supplementation to avoid prostate cancer, or at least that's what my GP told me.

Cheers - Fermented.

 

[Mantis]

Link broken.

Also, consistent beer drinkers should be taking extra zinc supplementation to avoid prostate cancer, or at least that's what my GP told me.

Cheers - Fermented.

I wish you had have told me that about 30 years ago
Too late now

 

[buttersd70]

Twice a year, getting the prostate checked is a highlight of my life.... :unsure:

Is that wrong????

 

[Jakechan]

Link broken.

Also, consistent beer drinkers should be taking extra zinc supplementation to avoid prostate cancer, or at least that's what my GP told me.

Cheers - Fermented.

...and Selenium too. A great anti-oxidant beneficial in staving off the old dreaded Prostate Cancer.

I take both daily.

Cheers,
Jake

 

[Mantis]

Twice a year, getting the prostate checked is a highlight of my life.... :unsure:

Is that wrong????

It should only be a blood test butters, maybe your Doc is suss.

 

[Jakechan]

It should only be a blood test butters, maybe your Doc is suss.

Actually, the finger up the coit is much more reliable or so Im told

 

[Mantis]

Actually, the finger up the coit is much more reliable or so Im told

Ahhhem.
My GP called me in when a PSA test read 4.1, he said if it was 4 I wouldnt have even called you.
He then did the finger thing and said "all feels fine to me, but if you want to see a specialist you can"
I said yes to this
Specialist did the finger thing and said "all feels fine but the only way to be sure is a biopsy"
I said yes to this (and this includes putting a device much larger than a finger up the coit)
This showed cancer
Surgery to remove the prostate, then 7 weeks of radiation treatment.

So finger assessments will find abnormalities but the cancer might be very advanced
Blood tests are the go, and if the PSA starts to rise then alarm bells should ring

Last two blood tests showed PSA undetectable, so , so far so good

Sorry to be a bit morose but thats my story

 

[BobtheBrewer]

Twice a year, getting the prostate checked is a highlight of my life.... :unsure:

Is that wrong????

No! While blood test (PSA) is ok, the digital test is the most accurate. Speaking from experience, keeping your prostrate should be your main aim.

 

[Jakechan]

Ahhhem.
My GP called me in when a PSA test read 4.1, he said if it was 4 I wouldnt have even called you.
He then did the finger thing and said "all feels fine to me, but if you want to see a specialist you can"
I said yes to this
Specialist did the finger thing and said "all feels fine but the only way to be sure is a biopsy"
I said yes to this (and this includes putting a device much larger than a finger up the coit)
This showed cancer
Surgery to remove the prostate, then 7 weeks of radiation treatment.

So finger assessments will find abnormalities but the cancer might be very advanced
Blood tests are the go, and if the PSA starts to rise then alarm bells should ring

Last two blood tests showed PSA undetectable, so , so far so good

Sorry to be a bit morose but thats my story

Sorry to hear it Mantis!

I asked my GP for a blood test and she said that its too unreliable and talked me out of it.

 

[Mantis]

Jeez, getting blokes to go and get a simple blood test is hard enough.
If you tell them to get the doc to do a digital check, they wont even think about it.
<_<

 

[Mantis]

Sorry to hear it Mantis!

I asked my GP for a blood test and she said that its too unreliable and talked me out of it.

Well it was the blood test that started the journey for me. If it was just the digital, I would be sitting here with the cancer advancing to god knows where.
As I said, both my GP and the Urologist did the digital and said my prostate felt normal.
After it was removed it was disected the found to be edge posotive in three places , meaning that it was about to escape the prostate, and this is not good. Also my prostate was 30% cancer, and the digital checks didnt pick it up
Prehaps you doctor should talk to my Urologist and Oncologist as they use the PSA reading as a guide and have said that recently the acuracy of the test has improved a lot. Being able to detect pSA to a minute level.
Anyway, thats my take on it

 

[Vlad the Pale Aler]

Mantis, hope all is well now, but when you mention digital I feel my eyes wandering over to your avatar.

 

[Mantis]

Mantis, hope all is well now, but when you mention digital I feel my eyes wandering over to your avatar.

Hey, you leave my missus out of this :angry:
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[Pollux]

I'm yet to get to that magical age of regular finger in coit checks.....

That said, I have never been known for seeking medical advice even when it's needed, in the last 2 years my wisdom teeth have erupted, I simply suffered a little and they have actually been breaking down to pieces small enough to remove with my tounge...Add in a hernia I have has for over 3 years, and the fact that the only reason I have seen a doc in YEARS was because I needed a med cert for work...

Luckily, SWMBO is now a registered nurse, so anything I 'should' be doing or overly concerned over, she will make sure I am aware, she's good at that......

 

[Mantis]

I'm yet to get to that magical age of regular finger in coit checks.....

That said, I have never been known for seeking medical advice even when it's needed, in the last 2 years my wisdom teeth have erupted, I simply suffered a little and they have actually been breaking down to pieces small enough to remove with my tounge...Add in a hernia I have has for over 3 years, and the fact that the only reason I have seen a doc in YEARS was because I needed a med cert for work...

Luckily, SWMBO is now a registered nurse, so anything I 'should' be doing or overly concerned over, she will make sure I am aware, she's good at that......

My missus was the one who said I should go get the 50yr checkup. Thats when the found the elevated psa. I was thinking the normal things like diabeties and cholesterol and was a bit shocked when he called me it for the PSA thing. At that time I knew nothing about it

Dunno how old you are Pollux, but the magical age is not 50 like many docs will tell you. Hey, prostate cancer is a slow growing thing and mine was 30% cancer at age 50. So it must have started many years ago. So 40 is the go, for PSA tests, no matter what your doc thinks, just insist on them. Yearly is all you need and if there is a rise then go from there. If not then no finger should be needed.

Or you could just have an enlarged prostate that is stopping you from peeing. This happened to my FIL, and he had to have the prostate removed so he could actually piss. No cancer at all.

 

[np1962]

I'm yet to get to that magical age of regular finger in coit checks.....

That said, I have never been known for seeking medical advice even when it's needed, in the last 2 years my wisdom teeth have erupted, I simply suffered a little and they have actually been breaking down to pieces small enough to remove with my tounge...Add in a hernia I have has for over 3 years, and the fact that the only reason I have seen a doc in YEARS was because I needed a med cert for work...

Luckily, SWMBO is now a registered nurse, so anything I 'should' be doing or overly concerned over, she will make sure I am aware, she's good at that......

My SWMBO of ten years is an RN and all I get if I complain af an ailment is "Well don't tell me your problems, go see the doctor!"
So I now suffer in silence!

 

[loikar]

keeping your prostrate should be your main aim.

heads for liver, tails for prostrate...

 

[j1gsaw]

When it comes to prostrate checks, its only wrong if you ask the DR to add another finger... for a 2nd opinion! hahaaha..

 

[PostModern]

OK

So how many fingers do we need to stick in the mash to know if we need nutrients?