The Demise Of Another Brewery

[clean brewer]

After a little research, maybe this place had too much on its plate instead of concentration on the Main Idea(what was it?) :unsure:

From what I see they were a

• Micro-Brewery
• Cafe
• Child minding centre
• Licenced Restaurant

This would take alot of $$$ to keep runnings....

:icon_chickcheers: CB

What were they again???

 

[mwd]

In my experience as a common or garden consumer most of these trendy micros produce a product aimed at the average market and charge a premium price and seem surprised by the lack of repeat custom.

BTW I am willing to chuck in $500.00 to a AHB Co-Op at least we may get good beer.

Neil Morrissey's and Richard Fox's pub in Marton-cum-Grafton was the classic example of how NOT to do it and piss off everybody you are trying to attract to frequent the pub on a regular basis.

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Not meaning to be mean but AHB is a business and not a" not for profit situation" it makes a profit and holds a ABN like any well run business should.But to run a business based on AHB.com is not the way to go. It needs to be independent and self sufficient, but can include members of AHB.Im sure Dane would agree.
GB

 

[clean brewer]

In my experience as a common or garden consumer most of these trendy micros produce a product aimed at the average market and charge a premium price and seem surprised by the lack of repeat custom.

BTW I am willing to chuck in $500.00 to a AHB Co-Op at least we may get good beer.

Neil Morrissey's and Richard Fox's pub in Marton-cum-Grafton was the classic example of how NOT to do it and piss off everybody you are trying to attract to frequent the pub on a regular basis.

:beerbang: :beerbang: Love it :beerbang: :beerbang:

 

[bum]

Spaces.

Just saying...

 

[scoundrel]

Craft Breweries are like good Food mate, very hard to do and sell .....

Megaswill and Shit Food.... Big Winner... Unfortunately... :angry:

And it all starts from your kids, feed em shit, they will keep eating shit....... Give em Food with Colour, Flavour and Aroma and they will grow up Eating and Drinking Food/Wine/Beer with Colour, Flavour and Aroma.....

:icon_cheers: CB

well CB you just hit the nail on the friggin head.

Show you kids good food doesn't come with a toy and your onto a winner, do it long enough and they'll do it for their kids and so on, but some fat cat would rather feed your kids lips and arseholes to make a squillion bucks to pay for another Bentley or an another 6 year old asian boy than worry about the detrimental effects that their products are causing today youth.

Multinational corporations should be fucked and burned.

 

[kook]

OK, I have a few questions.

1- Who here has tried their beers?
2- What range did they have?
3- Were they good?
4- What was their business model?
5- What sort of people live in Albany? ie is it a mining town, office district etc


Just need some basic info to really know what is going down in Albany.

1. I've only tried one first hand, but spoken with many others who have visited the establishment.
2. This was a Pilsner on tap at Clancy's in Applecross.
3. The beer I tried had multiple problems, excessive haze and diacetyl being the main ones.
4. Not sure, but from the accounts I heard they sold more VB than their own beer, and were not open to discussion about the beers themselves.
5. It's a rural "outpost" - part farming town, part tourist town, part transit town for trucks heading from the southwest to Adelaide. It would be a great spot for a brewery if it was done right. Most people driving from Adelaide to Perth stop off there.

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Lets see what happens tomorrow or the next day.Keep me in the loop (PM) while Im away . I do have cousin that's a specialist liquidation accountant but he works out of Singapore.It may be a good time to start a new thread for this idea ?
GB

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

1. I've only tried one first hand, but spoken with many others who have visited the establishment.
2. This was a Pilsner on tap at Clancy's in Applecross.
3. The beer I tried had multiple problems, excessive haze and diacetyl being the main ones.
4. Not sure, but from the accounts I heard they sold more VB than their own beer, and were not open to discussion about the beers themselves.
5. It's a rural "outpost" - part farming town, part tourist town, part transit town for trucks heading from the southwest to Adelaide. It would be a great spot for a brewery if it was done right. Most people driving from Adelaide to Perth stop off there.

: Quote Kook "It's a rural "outpost" - part farming town, part tourist town, part transit town for trucks heading from the southwest to Adelaide. It would be a great spot for a brewery if it was done right. Most people driving from Adelaide to Perth stop off there."

Cant say I agree with that statement , Its a country mile off the Adelaide route but it is a big tourist destination for local WA folk and internationals.I first though of a micro there back in 2002, to me its a prime place.It has a possibility of being the next big WA beer attraction area if done properly.Lambics by the sea ? :icon_drool2:
GB

 

[bum]

Lambics by the sea ? :icon_drool2:

I love this lambic get rich-quick scheme. People love lambics.

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

I love this lambic get rich-quick scheme. People love lambics.

Yes people love lambics, :icon_vomit: well Kook does ! If he spends $1,000,000 a year then the brewery is a goer.
GB

 

[rude]

Have to agree there, its not on the Adelaide Perth route its further west from the horses arse turnoff (Norsman) sorry for the rhyme but thats what my mate calls it & his not far wrong there.

It is a picturesque town (havent been there for ages) but have sailed down there surfed & fished

A lot of retired people used to live there but I believe a lot of bed & breakfast places there now

Lots of tourist attractions the Gap, Salmon Holes, Mount Clarance just to name a few Denmark is close by too

The main town overlooks Princes Harbour & a pub is just ideal there.

Bit too cold & wet for my liking these days WA's answer to Melbourne

Anyway Ive got no Idea about buisness or about brewing really but slowly educating myself

:icon_offtopic: Bit of topic here but cant wait to try a beer at Blacksalt Portbeach brewery Dunkleweisen straight up. Bit slow of the mark trying one but have to save up for a beer these days $9 a pint kills me but thats just me

cheers all chill out

 

[winkle]

Bit too cold & wet for my liking these days WA's answer to Melbourne

There's the problem .
Sorry, it's nice but a bit quiet and seasonal.

 

[///]

Take em as you like ///, have you experience in this department????

Why are they asking for Tax Relief then?????? Just dont sell enough??

Well yes I do. I started brewing last year at a venue that sold 4 kegs of beer a week and half a pallet of bottles. With 2 of us working hard on fixing the beer problem, without major change to the running of the front bar those sales are now beyond 20 kegs a week.

Tax relief is a separate issue, and not one that is on topic or pertinent. These guys may have built the taj mahal and folks have not come. But the idea of 'feed them cake' is repulsive and says little in the respect for customers and their intelligence. Folks may not be beer nerds and have nothing more than a scant brand knowledge, but they sure know if they like the taste of a beer. And infected, VDK riddled beer as my experience show does not sell.

Scotty

 

[Bribie G]

I've had some nice JS beers at the Sydney Brewpub which the lumpen masses would regard as craft beer (i.e. not Carlton Mid) and I've had some very acceptable bottled beers such as LCPA. However my experience of Queensland so called craft beers, so far, has been:

They have to be orange, cloudy and served at minus 2 degrees in a silly dimple glass
They have to have stupid names like Scotsman's wrinkled Willie or similar

I'm just going on some dregs I was served at the Regatta Hotel - I don't think they brew any more - and at the late Brew House. I haven't got out to the Sunny Coast brewery yet or down to MT so I'm probably unlucky with my experiences so far. However as Chappo points out it's rather pathetic that there is not one micro left in a metro area which is somewhat bigger and more populous than Perth.
You know what I would like to see? An inner city pub where you can get a properly made local pilsener or an Aussie Standard lager made the way it is supposed to be, not VB style, and enjoy in civilised surroundings and not out of a dimple handle glass in a barn of a place that looks like a tacky 60's bingo hall - like the BrewHouse was.

The Platform bar goes some way to fulfilling that, it's an oasis, but a few more pubs selling superior quality products that are recognisable to the drinking population in general then I think it would take off. Sure there is a place for doppelAltPoodleHefe brews and Old C*nt treacle tripple hopped Rumanian Porter but you are not going to swing the majority of piss-drinkers with those sorts of beers. Although not Craft brew, in the 80s Bernie Power and Eumundi Brewery launched into the market with a superior mainstream selection which gave the big 2 a huge fright. Powers in particular was a malty well hopped beer, Powers Red even more so and they brought out a Vienna Red that was miles ahead of any Carlton or XXXX beer of the time. The big 2 bought them out of course but it shows that the megaswill drinkers will embrace a quality product. Then you can get stuck into them with the HefePoodleWeizenDunkel stuff.

I'm off topic here entirely of course because I've never been to Albany.

Edit: good example of a divine beer that is craft/mainstream 'crossover' is St Peters Blonde served right alongside VB and Tooheys in the pubs around Newtown and Camperdown. I'd kill for a few pints of something like that in Brissie.

 

[thirstycritter]

You know what I would like to see? An inner city pub where you can get a properly made local pilsener or an Aussie Standard lager made the way it is supposed to be, not VB style, and enjoy in civilised surroundings and not out of a dimple handle glass in a barn of a place that looks like a tacky 60's bingo hall - like the BrewHouse was.

Have you been to the International Hotel in Spring Hill mate? It's got four brews on tap, including a pilsner I believe. They're nothing to write home about, but it's a microbrewery nonetheless.

I agree that it's sad that Brisbane hasn't got more microbreweries close to the CBD, but we're exceptionally lucky to have MT, Eagle Heights, Burleigh & Sunshine Coast just down the road, because IMO they're right up there with the best Oz has to offer...

I also thank my lucky stars that we've got the Platform Bar and people like Matt Kirkegaard, Ian Watson and Matt Coorey waving the flag for beer in Brisbane... things could be much worse.

 

[Bribie G]

Hi Pete, funny you should mention the International Hotel, immediately after posting the above I was alerted to that pub on another thread .. yes and they have a Pilsener. :icon_cheers: I'll have to pop into the City for a promotion interview during the week, my return home on the train may be delayed a little :icon_drunk:
I'll check Google Maps and see which Station is closest, I guess Roma Street?

 

[winkle]

Hi Pete, funny you should mention the International Hotel, immediately after posting the above I was alerted to that pub on another thread .. yes and they have a Pilsener. :icon_cheers: I'll have to pop into the City for a promotion interview during the week, my return home on the train may be delayed a little :icon_drunk:
I'll check Google Maps and see which Station is closest, I guess Roma Street?

A nice up-hill walk for you mate .
Don't get your expectations too high, pick of the litter is usually the Irish Red, the Pils is very hit or miss depending on the batch. That said, the pints are pretty cheap :icon_cheers: .

 

[skippy]

OK, I have a few questions.


5- What sort of people live in Albany? ie is it a mining town, office district etc


ever seen the movie Deliverance?

 

[peas_and_corn]

OK, I have a few questions.


5- What sort of people live in Albany? ie is it a mining town, office district etc

ever seen the movie Deliverance?

No