I’ve been having this exact issue on larger grain amounts with Robobrew Gen 3. Thinking next time I’ll take out the central overflow pipe and use a grain bag inside the Robobrew. Basically do it as a BIAB but with recirculation. Should be able to get a few more litres in.
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I’ve been having this exact issue on larger grain amounts with Robobrew Gen 3. Thinking next time I’ll take out the central overflow pipe and use a grain bag inside the Robobrew. Basically do it as a BIAB but with recirculation. Should be able to get a few more litres in.
I think it might be a bit drastic going for a BIAB, I have a couple of ideas for the G3 and an idea to bring the Robobrew G 2 up to par. Hopefully will be able to post something up during the next week.
dago001
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I have a RB V3 - I have done 12 brews with it, and for one reason or another, I can't seem to get any consistency with it. Stuck mash - stuck sparge - poor efficiency are the main problems.
A common solution for stuck mashes is to use rice hulls, but I didn't buy this to use rice hulls in my mash. To get a grain crush that didn't give me a stuck mash/sparge, I would end up with 58% brewhouse efficiency. But even that wasn't consistent. I tried a few different settings on my mill, even tried wet milling. The crush was always good with plenty of husks (not ripped or shredded) but it didn't seem to make any difference.
I ended up not using the fine mesh, which fixed the stuck mash issue, but the efficiency problem remained. It has really given me the sh!ts, as I had no efficiency problems with my HEX system prior to buying this. I often see people posting about 80% BHE with the RBv3, but I can't seem to get anywhere near that. I'd be happy with 65 - 70.
I'll keep it as a HLT and boil kettle, but I am going to resurrect my old HEX system.
It's possibly a good entry level system for all grain brewing, but BIAB is probably a more reliable and easier path for a beginner
For me, it just an expensive saveloy cooker and a backwards step in my brewing.
A common solution for stuck mashes is to use rice hulls, but I didn't buy this to use rice hulls in my mash. To get a grain crush that didn't give me a stuck mash/sparge, I would end up with 58% brewhouse efficiency. But even that wasn't consistent. I tried a few different settings on my mill, even tried wet milling. The crush was always good with plenty of husks (not ripped or shredded) but it didn't seem to make any difference.
I ended up not using the fine mesh, which fixed the stuck mash issue, but the efficiency problem remained. It has really given me the sh!ts, as I had no efficiency problems with my HEX system prior to buying this. I often see people posting about 80% BHE with the RBv3, but I can't seem to get anywhere near that. I'd be happy with 65 - 70.
I'll keep it as a HLT and boil kettle, but I am going to resurrect my old HEX system.
It's possibly a good entry level system for all grain brewing, but BIAB is probably a more reliable and easier path for a beginner
For me, it just an expensive saveloy cooker and a backwards step in my brewing.
TwoCrows
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Wooooow the screens do look bent on yours, mine have a slight slight curve but work well. I don't use the bottom screen( false floor) after mashing.I lift it out, helps at whirlpool. BM doesn't even have one.
Like stated above , use a hop spider or hop bag if you are worried about extra trub.
Yes the malt pipe does have it's limitations like all units, 1.060 wort is not uncommon.
Like stated above , use a hop spider or hop bag if you are worried about extra trub.
Yes the malt pipe does have it's limitations like all units, 1.060 wort is not uncommon.
Don't throw the towel in just yet, try and straighten the screens as best you can, it is difficult because the chrome an nickel keeps the spring in it. As said above get rid of the false bottom, the 2 screens in the bottom, the mesh one is probably the only one that is straight make up an "O" ring using some of the hard silicone tube join together with irrigation hose connectors from Bunnings, make as big as possible so you end up with a nice tight fit. I haven't tried it before, so it could float, wire it to the screen with copper wire this should prevent anything getting past.
As for your efficiency and stuck mash I have found brewing with a higher liquor to grain ratio will eliminate that problem 5 kg of grain make it between 4 & 5 litres per kg leave about 3 litres for a rinse through the grain bed. Make sure the ratio is dialed in to Brewers Friend or whichever program you are using.
The rice hulls you can still use them but wash them prior to going into the mix, rice is one of the most sprayed crops around, you don't know what **** is on them. You will probably not need them with the higher ratio of liquor to grain.
This is the most cost effective way I can think of for fixing the screens problem, the other is to fork out money and make up a screen to replace the bottom one.
The extent of the curvature of the screens depends on whether the screens came from the start of the roll or the end of the roll, I mentioned before, if they had made tooling up to give a couple of small 45 degree bends in the screens, making it like a plate, the stamping process would have work hardened them leaving them rigid and flat.
There is a limit to the amount of grain if anyone wants to put 7 or 8 kg it would make more sense to get a bigger unit or do a reiterated mash.
awfulknauful
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So what is the outcome.[/QUOTE]
Still working on it, but I have found something which could be interesting.
Kk had one on their brewmonk display model so i would say so.
I just messaged Keg King and they told me they should have them about end of October.
Clarkie has informed to to hold off the sale pending........
Which usually means about mid December...…...
I have just been using one of the wife's old yoga mats but will get one of the custom made ones, maybe a bit of insulation on the return pipe as well.
I suspect it is likely that people stayed quiet because they didn’t want to enter into an unhelpful **** slinging match as seems to be common here (not laying blame). I have enough going on IRL and don’t need silly internet fights.
FWIW I have a Robobrew. Bought on price and so far does the job I need. However, I consider wort production one of the easiest, most forgiving and least prone to screwing up processes in my limited and very amateur experience. So the choice of equipment does not fuss me so much.
Hopefully everyone using whatever setups are able to use them well enough to produce great wort. I don’t give a **** who made it but if they need help then wouldn’t it be nice to find a resource that they could use to get help without all the ******** that seems to go with it.
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Yes it does, I haven’t had a chance to measure in water and check it’s accurscy though
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I have a guten. The measurements are way off. I just use a 5litre jug to measure water.
Yeah I am pretty much the same - I have been staring at both the Robobrew and the Guten just because I want an easy no Fuss compact vessel to get into All Grain without having to use gas burners or hoisting grain bags via pulley systems etc......but the longer I wait to pull the trigger on one of them, the more problems that seem to come up and $400+ for something you might get a year out of it without any major issues seems a bit ridiculous. Might just have to throw the credit card at the Guten and see what happens
Got my 50 litre today,
Nicely packaged.
Flat screens
Immersion chiller
And a really good finished product, most importantly with appropriate electrical certification in place.
Nicely packaged.
Flat screens
Immersion chiller
And a really good finished product, most importantly with appropriate electrical certification in place.
What's with the chimney?
Kinda proves my point really re why most people don’t want to post on these threads.
Yep according to Fair Trading, the Regulatory Compliance Mark (bottom right of label) is sufficient.
https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/...cal-safety/safety-labels-for-electrical-goods
https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/...cal-safety/safety-labels-for-electrical-goods
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EmptyB, so posting true and backed up evidence, that's not what this forum is about
Fro-Daddy
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3 year warranty! No electrical compliance! Got to admit that was my second try!
I love these threads...
I love these threads...
Well this is where it gets interesting,anyone supplying electrical goods must be on the National Database, as should the name of the product in question, I would be happy for someone provide me with a link or even the registration number of either the product or company, buggered if I can find either.
And I have a Robobrew G3 for sale which I would not be happy selling it without knowing if it is compliant.
As you can see this is a different label on mine than yours when did you get your EmptyB
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TwoCrows
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Linky to the Guten , Aust standards and electrical goods National Database
