GUTEN

[Ballaratguy]

I looked at the smartPID but found that the smart pid was about 3 times as the GF control (which also integrates with brewfather)

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Hip Hop's Don't Stop.
Well, the heat is in the bottom of the mash tun and you are trying to control the temperature in the mash, by the time the trickle reaches the mash it is cooler. So keeping the flow going full bore the temperature remains constant. If you are using the overflow pipe get rid of it. I have the grain basket top and bottom plate fixed in the bottom.

Same deal with SmartPID and Brewfather integration. Cloud based recipes and remote device control is very popular for that reason.

I'm at my desk job and able to raise/lower fermentation temp and monitor gravity without leaving the chair. Because science

You are monitoring the temperature at the bottom of the mash tun, not in the mash. Depending on the liquor-to-grain ratio there can be several fluctuations within the grain bed.
All well and good if you have your recipes on hand, I find no need for that myself.

Brewing beer is bucket chemistry.

Here is some more Bucket Chemistry. Loss to grain is about 0,460 ml per kilo. I wouldn't advise anyone who sparges to try this.
20 kilo of water and a full gas bottle, plus a good portion of my body weight.

 

[Ballaratguy]

Hip Hop's Don't Stop.
Well, the heat is in the bottom of the mash tun and you are trying to control the temperature in the mash, by the time the trickle reaches the mash it is cooler. So keeping the flow going full bore the temperature remains constant. If you are using the overflow pipe get rid of it. I have the grain basket top and bottom plate fixed in the bottom.


You are monitoring the temperature at the bottom of the mash tun, not in the mash. Depending on the liquor-to-grain ratio there can be several fluctuations within the grain bed.
All well and good if you have your recipes on hand, I find no need for that myself.

Here is some more Bucket Chemistry. Loss to grain is about 0,460 ml per kilo. I wouldn't advise anyone who sparges to try this.
20 kilo of water and a full gas bottle, plus a good portion of my body weight.
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The GF a control has its own temp sensor so I made a thermowell and a bracket which holds the temp probe about 1/3 rd up the liquid level next to the overflow tube where I figure I get a more accurate temp than the Guten temp probe which is next to the heating elements on the base

 

[wide eyed and legless]

The GF a control has its own temp sensor so I made a thermowell and a bracket which holds the temp probe about 1/3 rd up the liquid level next to the overflow tube where I figure I get a more accurate temp than the Guten temp probe which is next to the heating elements on the base

Exactly! The probe in the SVB'S can only be placed on the base of the mash tun. At least one or two probes need to be in the mash itself. Monitoring the two or in my case three probes will give me a better indication of what is happening in the actual mash, the most important temperature which we need to keep an eye on. Looking at the variations between the three I think the Guten does a very worthy job of of keeping a constant temperature within the parameters.
In saying this I do a full-volume mash, a recirculating wort can afford to go up to a greater liquor-to-grain ratio than what some of the existing programs suggest.

 

[Hip Hops Don't Stop]

Hip Hop's Don't Stop.
Well, the heat is in the bottom of the mash tun and you are trying to control the temperature in the mash, by the time the trickle reaches the mash it is cooler. So keeping the flow going full bore the temperature remains constant. If you are using the overflow pipe get rid of it. I have the grain basket top and bottom plate fixed in the bottom.

Re: Trickle - OK, that makes sense.

If I take off the overflow pipe, won't there be a hole where the pipe once was?

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Came across this, a nice looking unit.

 

[golfandbrew]

That looks like a hot mess. Need a new category for SS fermenters called comicals.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

That looks like a hot mess. Need a new category for SS fermenters called comicals.

It does look busy doesn't it.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Re: Trickle - OK, that makes sense.

If I take off the overflow pipe, won't there be a hole where the pipe once was?

In the hole fit a BSP Hex head plug and a nut.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Another observation I made, I don't mash with the lid on but the foam on the top of the mash insulates it a little too much. The temperature at the top of the tun can get 2 or 3 degrees C higher. Clearing some of the foam out of the way keeps the temperature even.
Anyone doing full volume mash and worrying about overflow a good solution would be to get a strip of perforated s/steel about 70 mm wide and the length of the circumference of the grain basket and fit it to the inside of the basket.

 

[sp0rk]

I notice KK have stopped selling the Guten
@wide eyed and legless have you heard anything about a replacement?
My 50L is getting a bit tired and I wouldn't mind something a little larger
I'd prefer to avoid KL's offerings and now Cheeky Peak seem to be moving away from standard homebrewing equipment, I'm wondering if it's time to go back to another 3V system

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I notice KK have stopped selling the Guten
@wide eyed and legless have you heard anything about a replacement?
My 50L is getting a bit tired and I wouldn't mind something a little larger
I'd prefer to avoid KL's offerings and now Cheeky Peak seem to be moving away from standard homebrewing equipment, I'm wondering if it's time to go back to another 3V system

Sorry sp0rk KK were selling the Grainfather in place of the Guten I got a 60 litre Hopcat for $300 AUD delivered which is an excellent unit but it could be worth sending Sandy at Guten a message for the price of a 70 litre delivered to Australia. I doubt the price wouldn't be much different from buying one locally.