Old Speckled Hen-target Water Profile

[dalpets]

You don't need to

Absolutely.

Is the water chem thing making sense yet?

I think absolutely the best thing you can do is to take Dr Smurto up on his offer. If I brewed in Adelaide, I'd jump at it.

Not yet mate! I will get down to studying it in depth in the short term, particulary Palmer's take on the subject.
Regards the offer I'm not sure any more. If they find out who I am they might throw me i a vat. What a way to go.

 

[haysie]

If they find out who I am they might throw me i a vat. What a way to go.

Me thinks someone is taking the piss :lol:

 

[Brad Churchill]

Must admit this thread has given me a few chuckles.
I had been brewing for years before I tackled my first allgrain.
I decided to keep it simple at first and concentrate on just a few of what I cosidered to be the important factors.
A mash temp. of around 67C. Boil time of an hour. Fermentation temp of around 20C.
Other than that I had hot Wort splashing into the boiler from my crudely made lauter tunn setup (two plastic buckets one inside the other with holes drilled in the top one and a piece of plastic tube running from the bottom one to the boiler with no valve!
What was the end result.
It was my first allgrain brew and it was also the best beer I had made up until that time.

If you grab a basic recipe and get the basics right to start with you should have yourself a great beer to start with and even more incentive to then refine your technic.

My 2 cents worth anyway....

Good luck
Brad

 

[bum]

I'm getting to know you a little better,

I'm not an old "fuddy duddy" or thin skinned as you may perceive but please take note that what is often said in jest is just an excuse for veiled sarcasm or to gain status in the group beholden to you, at other people's expense..

I assure you that my sarcasm is rarely veiled and I most certainly would not consider this group "beholden" to me in any way shape or form.

 

[dalpets]

Me thinks someone is taking the piss :lol:

No!, again, may I say, another hasty internet type misjudgement. How quickly people are to condemn!

It was simply meant that I probably wouldn't be welcome in light of this thread. People bond together in curious ways. It was more about me than others.I have become a pariah simply becaue I didn't join the tall poppy brigade, in that I supported the professional. I am not & have never been a professional but I detest the mentality of canning them just because they have a professional education, Dr Smurto is excepted in this categorization.

I hope this clears up the misconception.

Cheers
dalpets

 

[dalpets]

I assure you that my sarcasm is rarely veiled and I most certainly would not consider this group "beholden" to me in any way shape or form.

So you say, but I've been on too many forums in my time not to know a self appointed power broker when I see one.

 

[manticle]

It was simply meant that I probably wouldn't be welcome in light of this thread. People bond together in curious ways. It was more about me than others.I have become a pariah simply becaue I didn't join the tall poppy brigade, in that I supported the professional. I am not & have never been a professional but I detest the mentality of canning them just because they have a professional education, Dr Smurto is excepted in this categorization.

Mate, brewers, in general are the most friendly bunch of people you'll hope to meet. The only thing that unites them is their love of beer and brewing so all types of people are attracted to it.

Get along to the brew meet, introduce yourself to the people there, drink some great brew and offer some of your own and that's all you need to fit into the group.

I'm a mildly socially awkward 35 yr old male postgraduate student who like art, very strange music and collecting dead animals (I draw them) and children's shoes. If I can get along to various brew meet ups and talk endless brew related shit to IT guys, electricians, Engineering students, boilermakers, retirees or whoever else will listen then anyone can - including you.

Don't take it all too seriously - brewing and beer is what it all comes down to. Food also fits in there somewhere.

 

[Tilt]

Reading this thread is great sport - keep it going fellas!
A useful read on water chemistry can be found here Mad Fermentationist- I use it to understand what I'm trying to achieve and which additions will get me there.
Then I use the calcs spreadsheet on the aforementioned EZ Water site.
BTW - I do miss the sweet tang of chlorine, the Murray River brown hue and the 40 degree temperature of the summertime Adelaide water I grew up with! Thanks for jogging the memory.

 

[Mattese]

Why can't we all just get along??!!???

 

[dalpets]

Must admit this thread has given me a few chuckles.
I had been brewing for years before I tackled my first allgrain.
I decided to keep it simple at first and concentrate on just a few of what I cosidered to be the important factors.
A mash temp. of around 67C. Boil time of an hour. Fermentation temp of around 20C.
Other than that I had hot Wort splashing into the boiler from my crudely made lauter tunn setup (two plastic buckets one inside the other with holes drilled in the top one and a piece of plastic tube running from the bottom one to the boiler with no valve!
What was the end result.
It was my first allgrain brew and it was also the best beer I had made up until that time.

If you grab a basic recipe and get the basics right to start with you should have yourself a great beer to start with and even more incentive to then refine your technic.

My 2 cents worth anyway....

Good luck
Brad

Thanks Brad. I have got the message loud & clear, like a torent falling over a waterfall

Cheers
dalpets

 

[Mattese]

I'm a mildly socially awkward 35 yr old male postgraduate student who like art, very strange music and collecting dead animals (I draw them) and children's shoes.

Ok, I'm following right up to the shoes bit... :huh:

 

[bum]

So you say, but I've been on too many forums in my time not to know a self appointed power broker when I see one.

Close but no cigar. Not so interested in power and no one listens anyway. But you're getting closer to having my mark, for certain.

Get this talk of not being accepted at a brewday out of your head right now. Anyone as keen to learn as you obviously are is always welcome at such events - no ifs, ands or buts.

 

[manticle]

Ok, I'm following right up to the shoes bit... :huh:

I did explain once in a thread which led to me posting my drawings.

Absurd sense of humour combined with an artistic interest in the discarded and repressed. That explains my interest in drawing dead things - children's shoes aren't too far away. They're always around, somewhere in the street, usually just one because they've fallen off a foot. Child or parent may or may not have an attachment to it but once it's lost it becomes meaningless rubbish to most people, just like a squashed spider, dead mouse or dead wasp.

Explaining art is something I've never been fond of and it's way off topic - point is the population that are brewers are made up of all sorts.

No-one fits in - therefore everyone fits in.

Near the end of a bottle of trois monts so cheers all.

 

[dalpets]

............. a good natured dig at your rather elaborate way of typing.

I was heartbroken when I didn't seem to fit in, I was even considering having a lobotomy. That is patently an unfair sarcastic statement, and I apologize, for momentarily breaking my own rules.

i didn't say that,.......did I?. Even open sarcasm is not on. so I will flagellate myself daily for the next week. I do have a sense of humour too, not misguided I hope.

For those who saw this thread and the number of posts could be excused for thinking that it must contain some gems of brewing knowledge, alas it is littered with off topic rants for which I am partly to blame. Sorry! Nevertheless, off topic or not, I guess the main players in the thread have learned something about human relationships. I'm certainly still learning!. Apologies to those who diverted to and were distracted by this non event, as it were.

............and to Bum thank you for your conderate PM.

At the risk of further damage to my psyche I have set up a gallery of my brewing equipment for all to view. Quite a humble setup really, yet I'm proud of it as I spent many hours setting it up, with limited resources & knowledge. Please don't laugh, you'll break my heart again, You can well appreciate from the gallery that I am not aspiring to competition with industry


If you have any constructive comments or in the unlikely event you want to ask questions about the equipment please feel free to PM me.

I'm sure the so coined non-existant "techno trousers" would appreciate my effort. All I have to do now is to make all grain beer with it, Ph aside.

So ends the Epistle to the Forum
(by way of clarification not to the brewers of the Roman forum -they didn't have the technology)

Cheers
dalpets

 

[bum]

At the risk of further damage to my psyche I have set up a gallery of my brewing equipment for all to view. Quite a humble setup really, yet I'm proud of it as I spent many hours setting it up, with limited resources & knowledge. Please don't laugh, you'll break my heart again, You can well appreciate from the gallery that I am not aspiring to competition with industry

Whoa! You do NOT muck around, do you? Seriously impressive rig for a beginner (for anyone, really). Man, is that a sparge arm built into the lid of your tun? I can't say I've seen anyone do that before - is that your idea or have I not done enough reading on sparge arms? [EDIT: At the risk of raising your ire, if you aren't an engineer you're clearly a frustrated one. This build really is extremely impressive for someone who has never even mashed a brew. Well done.]

As for the PM - the least I could do and nothing to thank me for in any case.

 

[outbreak]

I think he may need to supply a spoon pic in the gallery because the stench of troll is high....

 

[bum]

I think he may need to supply a spoon pic in the gallery because the stench of troll is high....

I dunno. None of it (with the possible exception of the HLT) looks especially well used. Seems like a plausibly new rig to me.

I hope so anyway. I fucken HATE it when I get trolled.

[EDIT: I took the liberty of running a couple of the images through Tineye and it came up with nothing. If this is a hoax it is an elaborate one.]

 

[dalpets]

Man, is that a sparge arm built into the lid of your tun? I can't say I've seen anyone do that before - is that your idea or have I not done enough reading on sparge arms? [

Actually, I like fiddling with contraptions and I think I had to use my ingenuity for what I wasn't quite sure I was doing at the time (making a simple return or sparge). Sort of a prototype.. The vertical copper intake slides up or down to regulate depth with a retainer clip.

Actually, I wasn't paricularly happy with that arrangement given it only had four outlets so I designed the the other plastic sparge arm that you see sitting atop the structure. I have done this so I can avoid channelling in the mash, as it has minute sparge holes along both its sides and can be used with the march pump attached to my hot water kettle and sparge delivery can be regulated by way of a plastic heat certified tap incorporated into the arm.

cheers
dalpets

 

[bum]

Ah, I was wondering about the plastic jobbie.

I don't know much about sparge arms and I do know that the shape of them is a contentious matter (so I'll leave it to others to discuss whether your design is the best possible - but if memory serves a sort of spiral-ish design is often suggested as being best(?), but then I don't think that design is used fixed so I have no idea) but I will say that the amount of thought and research you put into this design goes a long way to explaining why you're looking at matching original, pre-mash water profiles even before your first AG beer.

 

[dalpets]

I think he may need to supply a spoon pic in the gallery because the stench of troll is high....

Forgive my ignorance what does the above mean? Are you saying I should pull the images for security sake.