Nelson Sauvin hops anyone ever used them?

[pcmfisher]

I find Nelson works well with Cascade or Amarillo. I don't find the bitterness as overly harsh.

Say,
20g Nelson @60 min
20g Amarillo @ 10
20g Amarillo @0

or
30g Cascade @60
30g Nelson @10
30g Cascade @5

 

[MrTwalky]

I love NS. The first beer I made with it was an 11L SMaSH trial batch (recipe below). Turned out really well, pleasant and fruity, however it needed a depth of flavour to compliment it, so as stated in previous posts, use with Cascade, Amarillo or Simcoe. I highly recommend doing a small SMaSH to try out a new hop. It really helps!

- 2.6kg 2 Row (can't remember which)
- 14g Nelson Sauvin @ 60 mins
- 10g Nelson Sauvin @ 15 mins
- 15g Nelson Sauvin @ 1 min
- ½ Whirlflock Tab at 15 mins
- Safale US-05 (got 6% abv)

 

[heshtek]

I'll clarify what I meant last night (on a phone, with a couple under the belt, watching TV).

My recipe is a good one for using Nelson in good doses. That's the name of it.

Nelson is a less is more hop. A reasonable dry hopper (though I'd probably prefer Citra for that), great as a flavour addition, aroma addition. Bittering can be a little harsh, but certainly not like Galaxy in that respect.

Generally I use it at 10 minutes (assuming chill), with another hop and use a more neutral hop (or a pine/resinous hop) for bittering at 30-60 minutes (APA-AIPA). Works a treat.

Fantastic hop, but don't use like Citra, less is more. And I love the comment about making other hops pop. #gold

If i want to use it as a dry hopper for aroma and maybe a tiny bit of flavour in a 23litre brew how much would you recommend i use? Somewhere around the 20 gram mark or more?

 

[warra48]

Buy a cheap bottle of Sauvignon Blanc wine, and you've got the flavour and aroma of Nelson Sauvin.

I used it once, and never again. It's like they say, you either love it or hate it. I don't love it, but you may well do. No way of knowing without trying.

 

[mosto]

I think the Pilsner Kiwifirst may be referring to could be Macs Hop Rocker, which has a unique flavour which I believe comes from the use of Nelson Sauvignon, but it's a flavour I really like. I've never actually brewed with it, but have some in the freezer I plan to try at some stage. My staple brew is a POR/Galaxy combo, so as I tribute to ANZAC Day I was going to sub in the Nelson Sauv for the Galaxy to get the Aussie/Kiwi link, but never got to brew it in time. Maybe next year

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

If i want to use it as a dry hopper for aroma and maybe a tiny bit of flavour in a 23litre brew how much would you recommend i use? Somewhere around the 20 gram mark or more?

No more than 20g, if you have cascade, another 20g of that should do the trick. But....

It's like they say, you either love it or hate it. I don't love it, but you may well do. No way of knowing without trying.

Keep this in mind. I love it, there's a number of other brewers who do (and excellent brewers including Ross). Others can't stand it (and there are also some excellent brewers in this camp).

A gently gently approach will help.

 

[Kudzu]

I think 8Wired's Hopwired IPA has a healthy does of NS, amongst other NZ varieties. That's a pretty good drop if you ask me.

 

[The Village Idiot]

Used in a Pale, bittered with Magnum then Nelson 15g @10 min and 20g @ flame out.(no chill) Brewmate says it was 38 IBU but didn't seem that high ...... lovely

 

[Steve]

Once you're used to it its a great hop. It is an in your face hop if you use to much. I remember doing Ross's Nelsons Summer ale (think that was its named) and I didn't like it. Reminded me of dishwashing detergent. I then did a few more over the years and toned them down and did a Nelsons Bastard ale which I put into a NSW Xmas Ale swap which was well received. So use it in moderation and its a bloody lovely hope.
Cheers
Steve

 

[wereprawn]

Buy a cheap bottle of Sauvignon Blanc wine, and you've got the flavour and aroma of Nelson Sauvin.

I used it once, and never again. It's like they say, you either love it or hate it. I don't love it, but you may well do. No way of knowing without trying.

I had the same result . Dry hopped with 20g in 19ltr. To me it was undrinkable. ( luckily i have a piss head mate who drank the keg ) .So as others have suggested go easy on it. I would not go any higher than 10g in 23ltr to see if you like it .

 

[Kiwifirst]

I think the Pilsner Kiwifirst may be referring to could be Macs Hop Rocker,

I tried that this trip and that wasn't too bad. The one I was thinking about could have been a Tuatara Pilsner, but it would have been a couple years back now.

 

[DU99]

making a fat yak clone with them in it..let you know how it goes.

 

[Vini2ton]

New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc, has by some, said to taste of cat's piss on a gooseberry bush. I reckon the hop is well named. Blend and go sparingly at first. Mellows after a while in my opinion to something better. Geez bloody wine again.

 

[Dave70]

I fell into the trap of mores better using NS in a simple APA. It's not. The fruity, winey flavor kicked the **** of malt and turned it into an unbalanced fruit salad.
A fruit salad of lemon, bitter melon and grapefruit.
It's just drinkable.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Yeah...NS is not the best hope for high IBU late addition beers...a bit like POR...

But when used properly , like POR it is good.

 

[Blitzer]

Nah, I enjoy that winey taste in the back of a summer ale or a saison. Definitely for light drinking beers, or if you are Kooinda a black IPA.

 

[KevinR]

Used 12 grams last weak in a 150 lashes clone recipe I got from Mark. Smells good at this stage.
Kev

 

[Tahoose]

12g should be ok,

I used 20g as a 0min addition along with cascade, the aroma was awesome, but I found the flavour too winey.

Give it time though if its too much as it mellows well.

 

[Markbeer]

Wow. I use 50g at 7 mins, 50g at 3 and 50g at flameout in a 20l batch.

Guava is what I get. Similar to passionfruit.

The beer takes on the catty/cat piss smell.

Then a month later is amazingly refreshing.

Ties with amarillo as my favourite hop.

 

[BottloBill]

I've got a DSGA hopped with NS and Cascade, 10gm of each at 20 no-chill and it's fine. NS can be mega overpowering, but used in small amounts it adds complexity in my limited experience. Don't stress.

spot on! with the cascade it works fine in my experience....

 

[peas_and_corn]

I love the hop, this weekend I'm filling my Randall with it

 

[heshtek]

Well for anyone that cares I finally tasted my brew today. It was a coopers original lager with 1kg BE2 and 250g DME. I dry hopped with Nelson on day 7 and left them in there for 5 days. I went a bit pussy on the amount i used (10g) because of the mixed response I got on here about them. They have been described as Gooseberry with cat piss and white wine. I hate white wine and when I bottled it I could definately get a strong whiff on champagne. Fortunately the finished product doesn't smell of white wine but does smell and taste a little like gooseberry (without the cat piss thank god). Would I use Nelson again? Hell yes. Maybe next time I'll use a little more.

 

[heshtek]

Oh yeah and I didn't bag them when I put them in. I chucked them in nude............................................... sexy

 

[Markbeer]

You either like them or don't. I have had over 200g in a 20lt batch.

They are a polarising hop like Amarillo.

Women love them too.