Nelson Sauvin hops anyone ever used them?

[heshtek]

Got some Nelson Sauv hops on ebay. The breakdown is they were cheap but 2013 stock. Vacuum sealed so hopefully they are ok. It was an impulse buy and I hope they are ok. I suppose i mainly wanted to use them as an aromatic hop rather than a bittering hop. Has anyone had any experience with them? There doesn't seem to be much info on them kicking around the interweb at the moment.

 

[stakka82]

Never heard of them.

 

[Yob]

really?

 

[acarey]

good for bittering. Acquired taste when used as a flavour hop.

 

[elcarter]

You either love it or hate it.

Single hop and enjoy it.

There's plenty of info out there on the interwebs.

 

[Crofty]

Local manly brewery, Dad&Dave's has a beer called #1 Pale ale.... It's a SMASH Nelson pale ale...

Quite a Fruity flavour, I get passionfruit, but could be off the mark.

 

[CrookedFingers]

Do you like Fat Yak ?


If so, your answer lies somewhere in that stubby.


CF

 

[neo__04]

Ohh I love it.

Try this and enjoy - http://aussiehomebrewer.com/recipe/199-nelson-sauvin-summer-ale/

 

[Yob]

Do you like Fat Yak ?


If so, your answer lies somewhere in that stubby.


CF

Maybe if you can find one that's been in a fridge for a few years... Insipid **** these days

 

[Kiwifirst]

I brought a six pack of pilsner over in NZ that was heavily dosed with them. i struggled with it, tasted like my wife had tipped her wine into my glass.

If i was using them for the first time, i would be erring on the side of caution with my amounts. Maybe one pellet in a stainless steel air tight container?

Seriously though, they are a unique taste, i can taste a fruity sav blanc flvour, certainly when the beer warmed up some, i found it over powering, which meant i drank them quick out the fridge as cold as possible.

i think it clear, that i wasn't a fan. But that isn't to say i wont try with them on a maltier beer, but not with a crisp pilsner.

 

[lukiferj]

To my tastes it is incredibly winey. Not a big fan. Have used them a couple of times but probably wouldn't again. Have tasted some decent darker beers which hide some of the winey taste but nothing to make me buy another pack. Plenty of other hops which I prefer, but it's a personal thing.

 

[heshtek]

Hmm maybe not what i was hoping for but at least I didn't pay too much for them. Thats what you get for buying things on ebay after having a few

 

[CrookedFingers]

Maybe if you can find one that's been in a fridge for a few years... Insipid **** these days

Agree

 

[Kiwifirst]

I agree with lukiferj. If I had some to use, (like if I just brought them on ebay) I would use them in something bigger than a standard ale. I think they could add some interesting flavour in the background to a big malt bill, just to add a bit of fruitiness, I think that is your best bet IMHO, try to hide the wine flavour and only bring out the fruit.

 

[heshtek]

Christ this feedback is not good. Sounds like I've bought the worst hop available.

 

[CrookedFingers]

I like it.
Don't go heavy with it.

Try and find recipes that use it and have a crack !


CF

 

[Yob]

Christ this feedback is not good. Sounds like I've bought the worst hop available.

Like galaxy, can be used well in moderation, it doesn't go well in large doses, a little will go a long way, I've used it to good effect with pine hops in the past, Chinook, simcoe but haven't used it in over a year I rekon.

It's not a bad hop if you treat it with respect.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Used Nelson Sav when it first came out....6yrs ago

Very strong.

Not a hop I would use for flav or aroma.

Use it like POR...but the name gives an indication to its strong flavour.

 

[Pogierob]

Thats what you get for buying things on ebay after having a few

= the sum total of my entire ebay purchase history.

 

[slcmorro]

I've got a DSGA hopped with NS and Cascade, 10gm of each at 20 no-chill and it's fine. NS can be mega overpowering, but used in small amounts it adds complexity in my limited experience. Don't stress.

 

[Crusty]

I use it quite a bit.
I cube hopped it with cascade & dry hopped with it on the same beer.
It can be overpowering so don't go nuts if you want it for aroma.
I've found it settles down with a bit of age. I had a 150 lashes clone @ two weeks in the keg & the hops were pretty harsh & I didn't like it to be honest but @ week four, it had mellowed out quite a bit & the beers great.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Lord Nelson Citra Cascading out of the Galaxy Pale Ale.

Use it well and it's very rewarding.

 

[Tahoose]

Less is more, I have found out after I over hopped late with nelson Sauvin on 3 different beers.

Mind you have a Nelson Sauvin/citra ale, which has a light body 4.5% and I that is seriously sessionable it's not funny.

 

[Bribie G]

Very bad purchase. PM me for my address and I will dispose of them for you.

 

[vorno]

I havent used it for a while but have done loads of experimenting in the past. It works good in beers around the 4 - 5 1/2% with late hopping and dry hop. Dont like it as a bittering hop as I always found it harsh. Use it in the last 20 mins of the boil and definately no more than 30% IBU's. It's a very fruity hope (Grape), but it's nice to have variety eh. It also goes well in small amounts with any of the big american citrusy hops. Try the 'Knapstein Reserve Lager' you will find it at Dans. That will give you a good idea of the aroma and flavour. Cheers

 

[Tilt]

It's great in an easy drinking PA. Small bittering additions as a first wort hop (10-20g in a 20l batch) and then paired with something citrusy or piney late in a 1 : 3-5 ratio (I like 10gNS to 40g motueka @ 10mins and flame out). Not so good as a dry hop - it muddles other flavours.
Try a Knappsteins reserve lager to get an idea of NS done well.
I've heard it said NS is like MSG for beer, used right it makes all the other flavours pop.

 

[JaseH]

I used about 300gm of it in a black IPA once - not surprisingly it was a bit much!

Try Kooinda's black IPA - great use of NS, unlike mine.

 

[coopsomulous]

This is one of my favourite hops at the moment. I use it for flavour and aroma additions but only in small amounts. In fact im using it tonight in a pale ale - along wilth POR and Centennial. Dont know if I would be brave enough to use it in a single hop beer.

Coopers Celebration Ale is a good example where they have got the balance right with this hop.

 

[yankinoz]

I second the idea of trying it in small amounts.

As an aroma hop I like it, but prefer others in hop-forward styles like APAs and AIPAs. Try it and see how you like it.

The winey taste comes out even when you use it as a bittering hop and can be a nice background for aroma hops added at -20 or -15 minutes. I liked it paired with Amarillo in a blonde, but too much could be cloying.

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

I'll clarify what I meant last night (on a phone, with a couple under the belt, watching TV).

My recipe is a good one for using Nelson in good doses. That's the name of it.

Nelson is a less is more hop. A reasonable dry hopper (though I'd probably prefer Citra for that), great as a flavour addition, aroma addition. Bittering can be a little harsh, but certainly not like Galaxy in that respect.

Generally I use it at 10 minutes (assuming chill), with another hop and use a more neutral hop (or a pine/resinous hop) for bittering at 30-60 minutes (APA-AIPA). Works a treat.

Fantastic hop, but don't use like Citra, less is more. And I love the comment about making other hops pop. #gold