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Discussion in 'Gear and Equipment' started by KegLand-com-au, 26/4/18.

 

  1. KegLand-com-au

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    Posted 31/5/18
    I have not tried this myself. You have about 40mm clearance from the underside of the kegmenter above. So if this is enough space for you then i guess it would be possible. I would say you would need an elbow bend in the tube where it enters the bung though.
     
  2. Aus.Morgo

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    Posted 31/5/18
    The cable would be fine, the bigger issue will be what else is on the circuit?

    If your running a 10A+ load on a standard home power circuit which will probably have a 16A or 20A breaker, then someone only needs to turn on a ceramic heater and its going to trip the breaker at the box.

    You'd be constantly running out to the meter box while your trying to use it to reset the breaker every time other people turn on too many devices on the same circuit.

    Best to have a dedicated circuit run, or a higher current circuit using 4mm+ cable out to say the shed, garage etc
     
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    Posted 31/5/18
    Thanks for your reply . +/-0.05 instrument accuracy is quite good for a unit at that price. Thanks also for supplying the accuracy of the buffer solutions, which as you say is quite important, as the calibration solution and the meter itself need to be taken into account for overall accuracy (no good having buffer solutions with accuracy of +/-0.1 and a meter with +/-0.05, as together even if everything else is right, won't give an accuracy of better than +/-0.1). This is an excert from pH probe manufacturer Broadly James, but it sums it up "it is the accuracy of the instrument and the solutions used to calibrate the instrument (buffers) that determines the accuracy of the system.....If the instrument has an accuracy statement of ±0.01 pH units, and the buffers are specified as ±0.01pH units, and the procedures are followed properly, then the system and therefore the electrode, has an accuracy of ±0.01 pH units." So, by not providing the accuracy of the meter, I for one, would never have bought it, as accuracy is important to me in order to get precise results.

    Your attached PDF doesn't seem to be updated, but I'm sure this will happen in time.

    I will say that your comment about dipping the meter in hot wort once a week is not a great one, as I take that and the other comments I quoted earlier to mean it's okay to dip it in the mash tun (60C plus mostly). Since the maximum temp for the meter is 50C that's not advisable. Also, even if samples are kept in the 0-50C range, the ATC does not compensate for the differential in pH that the temperature difference creates in the wort solution itself. For example at 50C the wort may read on the pH meter as pH of 5.6, but at room temp it might actually be 5.75. A brewer may think they are on the right track with their pH because they took it at the wrong temperature. Throw in an accuracy potential of -0.05 pH of the meter and they may think their mash is kicking along at 5.55 when it is actually 5.75. Poorer outcomes may result. To counteract this one would need to know how to back calculate the difference in pH at the temperature that the sample is read at. With wort, which is so variable from recipe to recipe and brew to brew, that is almost impossible and those that have reported anything are all in the 65C plus category (which is beyond the maximum of 50C of your unit). Given all recommended mash pH ranges given at room temp (25C) i.e. 5.2-5.6 it is important to reference all readings back to those.

    One could do as you say, by dipping their meter in hot wort to sample once a week, but the pH readings would be meaningless, as one would be guessing as to how much to take off the reading at X temperature (50C or 63C or 71C). There is no point having a pH meter or calibration solution of any accuracy rating, if the user uses it in the way you've described, which throws that accuracy out the window. Far simpler to cool the sample, get accuracy and save the probe. Maybe consider advising customers this. Matter for yourselves.
     
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  4. Schikitar

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    If, hypothetically*, my CO2 tank fell out of my keggerator and landed on of the regulator smashing the top gauge and knocking it about abit - would one be able to purchase a replacement gauge, OR should I replace the whole regulator incase it is otherwise compromised?

    *may have actually happened :(

    EDIT: I'm not sure what size etc., to ask for or where to get one from..?
     
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  5. brewgasm

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    Yes, cheap as chips
     
  6. KegLand-com-au

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    Posted 1/6/18
    We see this happen all the time. Given how easy it is to damage the guages we would recommend all customers to purcahse a gauge guard like this:
    https://www.kegland.com.au/mkiii-regulator-bump-guard.html

    With that said if you want to replace the guages it is easy to replace. You can see the replacement guages here:

    https://www.kegland.com.au/replacem...rogen-oxygen-regulator-1-4-npt-thread-rh.html

    https://www.kegland.com.au/replacement-low-pressure-guage-for-regulator-0-80psi.html

    I would say most likely the regulator body is fine. You have to hit the regulator quite hard to damage the casting.

    If you really want to bash your guages around you can replace the high pressure gauge with a stainless plug like this:
    https://www.kegland.com.au/1-4-inch-bsp-stainless-hex-plug.html
    The high pressure gauge is actually not particularly useful anyway so this is one optoin. Some hire companies do this as it reduces the number of guages they have to replace.
     
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    Awesome, thanks for that, I'm just not sure if the internals where the plastic dial is located was damaged/affected (because that copped a bit too) - the reg also dislodged off the thread and CO2 came screaming out - will be modifying the fridge immediately to prevent it from falling out again!
     
  8. KegLand-com-au

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    Posted 1/6/18
    sorry about that. I missed this question before.

    You have about 40mm clearance from the top flat plate of the kegmenter below and the one above. If you used a right angle elbow you could just stack two together with a blow off tube but it is a tight fit. I think it will work.
     
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    Posted 1/6/18
    Now I'm not one to incite argument but....who is has the right to make and sell the fermentersaurus? IMG_0096.jpg IMG_0095.jpg
     
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    Went past there today to the 70% off Samsonite sale over the road as a ute was leaving with a swag of Fermentasaurus on the tray.
    Off topic but if anyone is after any quality luggage, wallets, bags and knapsacks head over to Samsonite sale, finishes Sunday.
     
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    So is KegKing bringing out the 27 L and 50 L Fermentasaurus exclusively? Hahahaha
     
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    Posted 2/6/18
    KegLand will have them in stock by the end of the year, what are the dimensions of the 50 liter?
     
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    Hi kegland,

    How long until your 6.0kg co2 bottles and stir plates are back in stock?

    Cheers
     
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    Posted 3/6/18
    KegLand Fermentasaurus 2 - 50L

    The new and improved Fermentasaurus Gen2 in a whoppinh 50L brought to you by the critical key minds and engineers behind the original Gen1. But with all the tweaks that make it the most cost effective conical fermenter to date!

    We found that the Gen1 Fermentasaurus although it was revolutionary at the time of its conception, that there are always areas to improve and make better. This is partly due to the strong Fermentasaurus community who have helped push for an improved conical unitank.

    Available in 27L and Double Batch 50L


    New and Improved:
    1. Larger Dump Valve
    2. Larger opening
    3. Pressure rating 2.4bar (35psi)
    4. Designed to fit in the new WiFi Fermenter Fridges (coming soon)


    More details coming..
     
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    Any eta on when the 2.6kg CO2 cylinders will be back in stock?
     
  16. KegLand-com-au

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    We just got another shipment so they are in stock now.
     
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    What are the dimensions of the 50 liter Fermentasaurus?
     
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    Awesome, Thank you for the feed back!
     
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    Hey,
    Love the new kegmenters.
    When will you be selling spunding valves?
    Thanks
     
  20. KegLand-com-au

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    If you dont mind waiting a bit longer we will publish this information soon for you.
     
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