I want to get elected!

[YoungOne]

Do your research seamad. If you own a gun, a knife and a car in australia - you're more likely to die in the car or in an incident involving the knife than with the gun.

 

[pk.sax]

Is that a fact?You're confusing Islam with Islamism and you need to stop it.

It's the proponent that I'm faced with, his faith had never enter my mind before his face was thrust into my view. I can't thus fault the faith he might be supposed to profess, only the one he portrays. I don't go to a swap meet naked with my body parts labelled into culinary categories with spice suggestions.

 

[seamad]

Do your research seamad. If you own a gun, a knife and a car in australia - you're more likely to die in the car or in an incident involving the knife than with the gun.

No need for research, unless you count nra propaganda as factual.
Cars are designed for transport, knives for food prep ( not counting illegal types) and guns, unless I'm mistaken, are designed to kill things ?

 

[slcmorro]

Discussing politics on AHB, you're all braver men than I!

 

[YoungOne]

No need for research, unless you count nra propaganda as factual.
Cars are designed for transport, knives for food prep ( not counting illegal types) and guns, unless I'm mistaken, are designed to kill things ?

Ah yes, the 'need' argument.

As my signature notes, If 'need' (or 'genuine need') was the criterion of validity for all human activity, then the world would be a place without joy.

There are many things that can be banned on the basis that there is no 'need' for them. Including alcohol, Comrade.
Be careful what you wish for.

 

[pk.sax]

No need for research, unless you count nra propaganda as factual.Cars are designed for transport, knives for food prep ( not counting illegal types) and guns, unless I'm mistaken, are designed to kill things ?

That's pretty much the point, there isn't another mundane use for a gun that justifies them.

 

[Fish13]

I have no need for a firearm or want but there are people who do. rangers, farmers, police and pest controller- in some lines- and then those who do it for hunting, target shooting and competition. We back responsible ownership of firearms. t

we all use knives. a knife is one of main items used in domestic violence but we don't see them being banned do we? only restrictions on some.

this a great thread guys keep talking about and on election think seriously about what you are voting for.

 

[slcmorro]

and guns, unless I'm mistaken, are designed to kill things ?

Guns are simple, mechanical pieces of hardware designed to eject projectiles at speed for a number of purposes. Sure, they CAN kill. So can knives.
Knives are simple pieces of material, sharpened to facilitate cutting/slashing/piercing/penetrating objects. Sure, they CAN kill. So can guns.

 

[jlm]

I recognise the point guns are tools. All the above comparisons fail to recognise that if the task you're trying to achieve is making c*unts dead, generally the most effective tool would be a fire arm.
Shovels don't dig holes, people do. But it's a **** load easier to dig a hole with a shovel than your hands.

 

[YoungOne]

I recognise the point guns are tools. All the above comparisons fail to recognise that if the task you're trying to achieve is making c*unts dead, generally the most effective tool would be a fire arm.
Shovels don't dig holes, people do. But it's a **** load easier to dig a hole with a shovel than your hands.

Not really. Hunting firearms or sporting semi-autos aren't 'battle weapons'. You'd be better off with different tools if you were a maniac.
Most hunting rifles of a consequential calibre can be shot once or twice and then need to cool down for a good 30 minutes before you can shoot them again. In that time everyone else would have clobbered you.

Australians don't have the same type of devices and weapons that Americans do - because firearms here are for simple hunting, agricultural or sporting purposes - not for a citizen's milita.

 

[bradsbrew]

Most hunting rifles of a consequential calibre can be shot once or twice and then need to cool down for a good 30 minutes before you can shoot them again. In that time everyone else would have clobbered you.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

We should ban shovels. You could dig a hole and bury someone after you belted them with it.

 

[slcmorro]

Most hunting rifles of a consequential calibre can be shot once or twice and then need to cool down for a good 30 minutes before you can shoot them again.

Umm...

 

[YoungOne]

Umm...

Heavy barrells are different. But sporter barrels are thin and lightweight - because they're intended to be carried with other gear for hours at a time. They heat up quickly.

 

[bradsbrew]

Heavy barrells are different. But sporter barrels are thin and lightweight - because they're intended to be carried with other gear for hours at a time. They heat up quickly.

So what are you calling a heavy barrel, anything over .308? And how can it be a hunting rifle if you only shoot off one or 2 rounds every 1/2 hour. A 22/250 is regarded as a nice light rifle. At least the Roos will be safe with your hunting rifle.

 

[bum]

Can we get an IP check up in this bitch?

 

[YoungOne]

So what are you calling a heavy barrel, anything over .308?

No. A heavy barrel as in a heavy barrel, not calibre.
But yes, my friends 30-06 can fire 2-3 rounds before it is hot to the touch.

 

[slcmorro]

Can I ask, what is the difference between a copper walking around with his or her sidearm in public, to me locking my shotgun and rifle away in a safe, having them registered and sighted, and transporting them in a safe and legal manner to and from the areas in which I hunt/sport shoot legally?

I mean, both of us are licensed to carry and have passed the relevant background checks. Both of us are carrying for a specific purpose. Both of us (and let's not go into the 'who's more likely' debate here) are able to use our firearms for unlawful purposes whenever we choose. Why does Joe Public have a problem with me owning and using firearms in the legal, safe manner for which I purchased them, but can accept that another person wearing a uniform with an insignia on it can carry in the street?

 

[jlm]

But it's completely impractical for me to take out a single person who I want not to be alive with a .223 bolt action, lets say hypothetically I sourced illegally from someone who stole it from a licensed owner? There's been a bit of that (theft, not me making c*nts dead) happening down here lately.
Edit, the above was in reply to young one, not the above. I'm sure the obvious holes in that argument will be pointed out by others shortly. I gotta go get the kayak on the ute so I can remove some invasive species (trout) from our waters tomorrow.

 

[pk.sax]

Slc, the cop needs that gun because of the fact there are people out there with guns and to protect the 'gun-less' we put some people on a payroll, with training and purpose. They have a requirement to be able to subdue criminals. What criminals are you 'required' to subdue? All you want is a hunting weapon. That's your pleasure, but it does open up those potent weapons to misuse. And again, there was no requirement for you to own that gun in the first place, unlike the cops.

 

[YoungOne]

How stupid are you, exactly?

GTFO

Can we get an IP check up in this bitch?

ugh, you're just a bully. There's a great irony in Greenies preaching about tolerance whilst seething like the face of death himself, so much hate do they have.
I'm very sorry for whatever has happened to you in your life, but you don't need to vent it on me dude.

 

[pk.sax]

C'mon Pauline! Go for the buttocks!

 

[manticle]

Why are you talking about hunting rifles though? The suggested ban is on handguns isn' it?
I'm on a phone so that limits my responses - I'd like to come back and respond to some of your points though YO.

 

[bum]

I'm very sorry for whatever has happened to you in your life, but you don't need to vent it on me dude.

Sure I do. You're a fake account and don't deserve to be treated like a real person. This is endlessly dreary.

As an aside, why do you infer that I am a "Greenie"?

 

[manticle]

Imply

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Insist

 

[booargy]

user name h34r:

 

[YoungOne]

As an aside, why do you infer that I am a "Greenie"?

Because Labor and the Liberals are, broadly, pro-shooting, although for different reasons.
You're clearly not conservative.
So broadly, you're either fascist or within the Greenleft sphere.

And I'm guessing SE Melbourne means inner city Melbourne, like Richmond - that notorious Greenie stronghold characterised by tight jeans and self-deception.

 

[manticle]

Imply

Actually as you were. Just got the context of your question.
YO has both inferred and implied.
Tops.

 

[manticle]

Actually bum is closer to frankston but let's not make broad assumptions based on where people are able to rent/buy/set up a tent