I want to get elected!

[Yob]

Gosh... ****!... Really? Oh my..

I've been missing out all day and didn't know it..

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Jeezus...

If only this was a yeast thread..

w1728.

 

[Camo6]

(snip) Incidentally, I've always disliked the suggestion that people have to meet a standard of intellect, behaviour or knowledge to run for government. The point of a democracy is that we have representative politicians. If there is a good 15% of the population who are 'racist morons', then they're entitled to be represented in kind. It's elitist and wrong to suggest that they are not entitled to be represented.

Though Darwin would probably agree with this, most of us don't have his patience. Couldn't we just try to breed them out or something? Surely someone's tried this before?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Ford v Holden

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Hang on

Holden v Ford

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

120y

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Maybe a P76

 

[YoungOne]

GTFO

Ah, get over yourself. I'm sure there is a good person in there just waiting to get over their latent bitterness and negativity. You'll be happier.

 

[manticle]

The idea that someone ill qualified to fulfil their position should be consideted a worthy candidate is also pretty poor.
You ever watched Pauline in an interview where she's given space to speak?
Racist.
Moron.

 

[YoungOne]

The idea that someone ill qualified to fulfil their position should be consideted a worthy candidate is also pretty poor.
You ever watched Pauline in an interview ehere she's given space to dpeak?
Racist.
Moron.

Hey that goes two ways.
Have you ever watched Sarah Hansen-Young preach from the pulpit?
Or that Greens candidate who remained endorsed despite publically declaring his interest in illegal sexual perversions?

I hate to break it to you, but in a democracy people have to do the best they can; and the way to do that is persuasion rather than criticism.
This is probably why Socialist Alternative, Greenleft and the like never took off. Too much time seeing everyone as an enemy and not enough time building relationships.

 

[JDW81]

I have watched many greens candidates speak and they generally speak with well constructed and soundly based points of view. You don't have to agree with them, but it is rare that they say outrageous things that they can't back up with good evidence. One nation on the other hand. According to one of their spokespeople Islam is a country, haram is a threat to our way of life and jews believe in Jesus. Somehow I think the greens are a little more credible than one nation. But hey, the great thing about democracy is you can vote for whoever you please with the only repercussion being a healthy debate on a brewing forum.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I worked as a Government employee

The old saying of being promoted to their level of incompetence rings true for so many politicians

 

[white.grant]

The last thing I want is my brewing forum clagged up with politicians. Rack off politicians.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

The last thing I want is my brewing forum clagged up with politicians. Rack off politicians.

Thou shalt decree that this thread shall only contain political content that is within the constraint of the Original Post. Those that wish to disagree shall brew a lambic or some such other similar brew that may be deemed equivalent to Tooheys Red

 

[pk.sax]

Oh, this has t really gained any quality since it started. Attracting the usual 'look I have a phobia, come associate with me'.

Fish, mate, are you sure you weren't drunk when you signed up for this bs! I wasn't brought up in this country so forgive me if I do get something wrong, but what I learnt was that public service (yes, including pollies) is meant to be for the welfare of the public you serve. Running on petty personal aims is hardly public service, even if you do serve the interests of 0.01% or something, unless you are looking at the welfare of the biggest lot as well, you don't serve the public.

btw, I am definitely pro animal rights, i.e., leave them alone when they aren't coming into your home and eating your sammich. Killing animals (or people!) for pleasure is vile and self centred. I get a massive conflict trying to figure out killing for food but best left at that.

 

[bum]

Threads like this pretty much sum up why I'm embarrassed to tell strangers about my hobby. It's not that people say "Homebrew, hey? I had some of my uncle's homebrew once and it tasted like ****. I bet your beer is **** too." It's that people think "Home brewer, hey? That uncle of mine really is an ignorant *******. I bet this guy is the same."

Ah, get over yourself. I'm sure there is a good person in there just waiting to get over their latent bitterness and negativity. You'll be happier.

If you're going to try to make cutting remarks do try to understand the actual meaning the words you use. It's pretty important.

 

[matho]

Rupert Murdoch is laughing at all austrailians, your never going to get positive press if you want to tax the rich and give it to the poor, you will just be labeled "EXTREME" or "INCOMPETENT".

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Yep...poor old Rupert.....made/obtained his money here....

 

[manticle]

@young one: It goes every way. People should not be employed in jobs they can't do. They often are but they shouldn't be.

If you have a link to either young or the perverted guy I would appreciate it. I don't come at this specifically from a place of defending the greens. I come from wanting to understand where the animosity comes from because when I look at their policies, they seem well constructed and relevant. Even when I disagree, I can't realistically brand them as loons. One nation, dlp, cdp, rua, katter and even labor and liberal I can safely say I think have at least one policy each that belongs in chelmsford.

Would someone please engage with a specific greens policy and tell me why it's lunacy?

 

[bum]

I look at their policies

You know that this is where the fundamental issue lays, right?

 

[manticle]

Of course. Point I've been trying to make for a while.

 

[bum]

You think they can be shamed then?

All evidence is to the contrary.

 

[wereprawn]

What baffles me is all the talk by our pollies of how we need to "buy Australian" to create jobs.It seems straightforward to me.Reduce tax on aussie made goods.Up the tax on imports.Abracadabra.....more jobs.

 

[tcc]

i just ran out of popcorn

thanks guys

 

[jyo]

I don't think they're racist at all. They're portrayed as racist, but really they're just anti multiculturalism.

Wow. Is your head actually up your arse?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEcf_hSl4E#t=226

Go to 2:40 in the above video which is straight from the One Nation website. Makes me sick.

 

[goomboogo]

What baffles me is all the talk by our pollies of how we need to "buy Australian" to create jobs.It seems straightforward to me.Reduce tax on aussie made goods.Up the tax on imports.Abracadabra.....more jobs.

We would have to come up with a new term. I know, let's call it a Tariff. You heard it here first.

 

[wereprawn]

We would have to come up with a new term. I know, let's call it a Tariff. You heard it here first.

Ok.We need to INCREASE import tarrifs(tax) and reduce tax on aussie made goods. I know, lets call it tax relief for Australians.

 

[bum]

It's not about the cost of goods. It is about the cost of manufacturing. So the manufacturers left.

There's no going back without building a stronger manufacturing sector. Increasing the cost of (now essential) imports only increases cost of living which increases wages which makes local manufacturing even harder.

 

[goomboogo]

Ok.We need to INCREASE import tarrifs(tax) and reduce tax on aussie made goods. I know, lets call it tax relief for Australians.

How well did it work the last time this policy was in place? What is your judgement regarding the macroeconomic effect of dismantling tariff protection in the last few decades?

 

[wereprawn]

It's not about the cost of goods. It is about the cost of manufacturing. So the manufacturers left.

There's no going back without building a stronger manufacturing sector. Increasing the cost of (now essential) imports only increases cost of living which increases wages which makes local manufacturing even harder.

True. But if local goods are cheaper it filters through the whole economy , including manufacturing. If a product is not available as "Australian made" the extra import tax does not apply. As soon as a similar product is made here the tax applies. Surly this would encourage new aussie manufacturers and entice foreign companies to produce their products here