I want to get elected!

[manticle]

@nu brew - they are also in favour of reducing restrictions on live music venues.

Whether or not people agree with the greens policies is not really what gets me. Not sure I agree with them all either and there is a part of me that is strongly libertarian. What gets me is that we have a major party with clearly outlined and costed policies on a range of issues and yet instead of people actually engaging with those policies or debating the merits or lack thereof, they go out of their way to dismiss them as insane.

Would someone please point out which of their policies are insane and why? All their policies for important issues like public health, education, investment in small business and scientific research are available on their website.
Some debate on those policies would be great - beats 'they're a bunch of middle aged loonies so I voted for a candidate who thinks Islam is a country instead'.

 

[citizensnips]

jesus hell 5 pages, what the hell have I been doing

 

[DU99]

people tend to forget where do we dump our compact fluro when it's dead/broken,the anti freeze in our car's.does it just end up down the drain or landfill..so much for being GREEN

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Got a mate who is a fridge......he has to account for point fuckall of a gram of fridge gas.....great bloke...beard...drives an EH .....

 

[pyrosx]

By the way - I don't necessarily like One Nation but I voted for them to try and get the message through

The message you're sending by voting for Pauline & Co is that it's okay to be a racist moron who thinks Islam is a country

 

[bradsbrew]

Got a mate who is a fridge......he has to account for point fuckall of a gram of fridge gas.....great bloke...beard...drives an EH .....

The amount of 502 gas we wasted when I was in my late teens was ridiculous. But that's what happens when you give young apprentices open access to refilling the 9kg 502 bottle in the on-call ute, around $250.00 a refill in the late eighties. Once we new what we could do with it, instant chilled beer, watch this spit freeze as it goes through the gas, listen to how slow and deep my voice goes when I ............................no wonder they banned the stuff.

We knew that the stuff is bad for the environment but were young and ignorant. Didn't stop playing with it until we found out we could have killed ourselves

 

[pyrosx]

I will be voting for the Palmer United Party. Maybe he is a dickwad too but that's not proven as yet.

What is proven is that he's a Billionaire mining magnate who uses the countries "working families" to line his own coffers.

As a quick aside - you complained about six figure salaries for politicians. Think about this for a moment - do you think paying politicians LESS will increase or decrease the quality of people willing to run for public office?

 

[bradsbrew]

What is proven is that he's a Billionaire mining magnate who uses the countries "working families" to line his own coffers.

As a quick aside - you complained about six figure salaries for politicians. Think about this for a moment - do you think paying politicians LESS will increase or decrease the quality of people willing to run for public office?

You may get people who want to make a difference run and are willing to receive a reasonable remuneration package . You may also get people who are not qualified/experienced enough that have no idea of simple economics and foreign affairs running just because its more money than the can earn elsewhere..........oh hang on we already have plenty of them.

 

[YoungOne]

The message you're sending by voting for Pauline & Co is that it's okay to be a racist moron who thinks Islam is a country

I don't think they're racist at all. They're portrayed as racist, but really they're just anti multiculturalism.

The point they have made - and it's valid - is that western liberal democracy cannot function if it allows traditions that are opposed to it to exist within it. Namely: Islam.

Besides, election are about interests and not about personalities.
If you vote based on personality then you've wasted your vote.

Incidentally, I've always disliked the suggestion that people have to meet a standard of intellect, behaviour or knowledge to run for government. The point of a democracy is that we have representative politicians. If there is a good 15% of the population who are 'racist morons', then they're entitled to be represented in kind. It's elitist and wrong to suggest that they are not entitled to be represented.

Pauline, a bit like the ALP at the moment, was subjected to a massive co-ordinated smear campaign because she was a threat to the status quo. Labor and the liberals want to import lots of foreign labour to undermine wages and keep their businesses growing; and to hell with the rest of us. One Nation and parties like it want to halt migration and make migration decisions subject to national decision making (referenda have been suggested). That's far more honest and fair than migration by stealth without the existing population getting a say.

The suggestion that someone is a moron just because you disagree with them is pretty poor.

 

[bum]

GTFO

 

[Yob]

Gosh... Shit!... Really? Oh my..

I've been missing out all day and didn't know it..

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Jeezus...

If only this was a yeast thread..

w1728.

 

[Camo6]

(snip) Incidentally, I've always disliked the suggestion that people have to meet a standard of intellect, behaviour or knowledge to run for government. The point of a democracy is that we have representative politicians. If there is a good 15% of the population who are 'racist morons', then they're entitled to be represented in kind. It's elitist and wrong to suggest that they are not entitled to be represented.

Though Darwin would probably agree with this, most of us don't have his patience. Couldn't we just try to breed them out or something? Surely someone's tried this before?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Ford v Holden

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Hang on

Holden v Ford

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

120y

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Maybe a P76

 

[YoungOne]

GTFO

Ah, get over yourself. I'm sure there is a good person in there just waiting to get over their latent bitterness and negativity. You'll be happier.

 

[manticle]

The idea that someone ill qualified to fulfil their position should be consideted a worthy candidate is also pretty poor.
You ever watched Pauline in an interview where she's given space to speak?
Racist.
Moron.

 

[YoungOne]

The idea that someone ill qualified to fulfil their position should be consideted a worthy candidate is also pretty poor.
You ever watched Pauline in an interview ehere she's given space to dpeak?
Racist.
Moron.

Hey that goes two ways.
Have you ever watched Sarah Hansen-Young preach from the pulpit?
Or that Greens candidate who remained endorsed despite publically declaring his interest in illegal sexual perversions?

I hate to break it to you, but in a democracy people have to do the best they can; and the way to do that is persuasion rather than criticism.
This is probably why Socialist Alternative, Greenleft and the like never took off. Too much time seeing everyone as an enemy and not enough time building relationships.