GUTEN

[devoutharpist]

holy hell i can't believe how knotted peoples' knickers are still over the KK/KL thing. Just embrace the good deals and all the new products coming from both shops.

Now back to the issue of a filter on the Guten... Maybe buying the robobrew falsie, cutting it down and putting some edging on it is the way to go. Maybe time to suss KK and see if they have anything in the works.

 

[Fro-Daddy]

Why not buy a cheap BIAB net and use it like a giant hop spider?

 

[devoutharpist]

Why not buy a cheap BIAB net and use it like a giant hop spider?

That is definitely an option. I wonder what the drop in utilisation is for whirlpooling in a bag. I think i read about a 10% drop for using a bag or a hop spider over freeballing them into the kettle, but no idea where i saw that....

 

[Fro-Daddy]

In a small bag I could believe it, but when it's something that can hold 5+kg I don't think it would be too much of a drop if anything?
They will be able to move quite freely I think.
It's certainly a lot cheaper and easier to try than modifying a false bottom.

 

[nathanvonbeerenstein]

This all sounds really murky to me. How biased is all this then? If one supplier is allowed in but the other one is not how does that benefit the HB community? Would it not be better if both sides could present? One has to wonder about all the biased you tube videos against the Guten product for example and more. How many shills are involved?

There will always be people like you are avid for scandal. What if... people just genuinely liked the Robobrew?... people compare them since they’re so similar and surprise surprise, some even have a preference! Not everything needs to be considered through the lens of a tin foil hat. Leave it alone, enjoy the innovation it’s generating and focus more on your hobby.

Back on topic and the reason I even saw my name pop up in a Guten forum... I have a Guten from my pre-Kegland days. I ended up retrofitting a false bottom and making hop screens since (as is common knowledge) they can’t handle hops in the nude well. Helix coils were finicky at best and often left stuff caked underneath, leaving a noticeable scorch mark. They worked well warm though.

If anyone wants to buy it on that note, drop me a direct message. I’ll throw in these hop screens/spiders/helix coils etc etc with it. Works fine and still in warranty, I just have upsized since.

 

[Kenf]

Well the court case last week is listed on Austlii,really it’s only house keeping and legal side stepping. Does it look bad? You be the judge!
If you do read it (MCH vs Australia vs Kee Doery & Orr’s)
You will notice posts off this site are quoted in evidence.
So there is a bit of a warning!
Just remember this was only about what should be in and what shouldn’t!
The main game is yet to occur!
No further comment from Me!

 

[goatchop41]

This all sounds really murky to me. How biased is all this then? If one supplier is allowed in but the other one is not how does that benefit the HB community? Would it not be better if both sides could present? One has to wonder about all the biased you tube videos against the Guten product for example and more. How many shills are involved?

Mate, get out of the thread if all you're going to post about is this shit. The thread is about the Guten, and you're clogging it up with your tinfoil hat shit. Take it somewhere else and stop wasting our time please

 

[goatchop41]

I bought the one for the 65 litre brewzilla then trimmed it to fit snug. The smaller one would do nothing.

Bugger, if the 35L is too small and the 65L is too big, then that won't work for me. I have absolutely no means with which to trim down the bigger one, and wouldn't know the first thing about it either. I was hoping that I could just add something to the smaller one to make it wide enough

 

[Ferment8]

Bugger, if the 35L is too small and the 65L is too big, then that won't work for me. I have absolutely no means with which to trim down the bigger one, and wouldn't know the first thing about it either. I was hoping that I could just add something to the smaller one to make it wide enough

about $25 will get you a pair of tin snips. Wiss brand are good. If your right handed get the green ones, if left handed get the red ones. just trim the edge as you turn it around. Little bit at a time

EDIT: Actually I havent done this but thinking as its probably a stainless screen it may not work too well. The wiss edge snips might do it though. They are a much tougher cutting edge

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Well the court case last week is listed on Austlii,really it’s only house keeping and legal side stepping. Does it look bad? You be the judge!
If you do read it (MCH vs Australia vs Kee Doery & Orr’s)
You will notice posts off this site are quoted in evidence.
So there is a bit of a warning!
Just remember this was only about what should be in and what shouldn’t!
The main game is yet to occur!
No further comment from Me!

I wouldn't like to be in Kee Doery's shoes. Nuff said.

 

[Kenf]

nuff said

 

[sp0rk]

As much as I'd like to pitch in on the drama, I'll drag this back on track (hopefully for good)
Who is using Brewfather and has a Guten profile? (preferably for the 50L)
I'm about to finally do some reviews as requested elsewhere along with my mkI lowered pickup fitting for the helix coil (mkII is ready to be built pending the results)
I plan on trying the same brew twice, one with just a normal sparge, then with a sparge ring for recirculating over the lifted malt pipe (after sparging) to test whether this improves clarity. the theory is the grain bed will act as a filter like it would in a normal mash tun
I'll be using some rice hulls to help avoiding slow flow. (any suggestions on how much for a 20L batch?)
Another question is has anyone done any huge beers in a 50L Guten?
I'm planning on doing a RIS and a BW (both around 10-12% ABV) and I'm not quite sure what preboil volume I should be looking for

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I see where your coming from with the sparge, but I would have my doubts if the clarity would change much at all, if at all. Your already recirculating during the mash, hopefully all the little bits in the liquor would be getting dumped on top of the grain bed, when ever I have taken the pre boil gravity the wort is very clear.
Is the RIS the 20 litre batch? Do you already know your boil of rate?

 

[Nullnvoid]

It is true Keg King are not allowed to post as they have been refused sponsorship, when the old Keg King crew went over to Keg Land they managed to take the sponsorship with them.

I think I would rather have this confirmed by the one moderator there is or AHB Admin themselves rather than you as a biased third party.

 

[Truman42]

Does anyone know what sort of probe the Guten has? Is it a one wire DS18B20?

Anyone?

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I think I would rather have this confirmed by the one moderator there is or AHB Admin themselves rather than you as a biased third party.

Then just do as I did,shoot Angie a line she will tell you.

 

[devoutharpist]

Another question is has anyone done any huge beers in a 50L Guten?
I'm planning on doing a RIS and a BW (both around 10-12% ABV) and I'm not quite sure what preboil volume I should be looking for

I've done a BW where i was shooting for something in the realm of 10-11% but i came in a bit under, which i expected to happen given the high gravity. I'll confirm with my beersmith file tonight and get back to you.

As a side note, brewed that thing at the end of the year still needs a lot more time to mellow out, even under 10%ABV

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Anyone?

Give Keg King a call they may be able to tell you.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Bullshit?

 

[awfulknauful]

Well the court case last week is listed on Austlii,really it’s only house keeping and legal side stepping. Does it look bad? You be the judge!
If you do read it (MCH vs Australia vs Kee Doery & Orr’s)
You will notice posts off this site are quoted in evidence.
So there is a bit of a warning!
Just remember this was only about what should be in and what shouldn’t!
The main game is yet to occur!
No further comment from Me!

Wow!