Help Support Aussie Homebrewer by donating:

  1. We have implemented the ability to gift someone a Supporting Membership now! When you access the Upgrade page there is now a 'Gift' button. Once you click that you can enter a username to gift an account Upgrade to. Great way to help support this forum plus give some kudos to anyone who has helped you.
    Dismiss Notice

GUTEN

Discussion in 'Gear and Equipment' started by wide eyed and legless, 1/3/17.

 

  1. devoutharpist

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18/9/18
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    54
    Location:
    Adelaide
    Posted 29/7/19
    holy hell i can't believe how knotted peoples' knickers are still over the KK/KL thing. Just embrace the good deals and all the new products coming from both shops.

    Now back to the issue of a filter on the Guten... Maybe buying the robobrew falsie, cutting it down and putting some edging on it is the way to go. Maybe time to suss KK and see if they have anything in the works.
     
  2. Fro-Daddy

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23/4/17
    Messages:
    242
    Likes Received:
    76
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Draftsperson
    Location:
    Brisbane, QLD
    Posted 29/7/19
    Why not buy a cheap BIAB net and use it like a giant hop spider?
     
  3. devoutharpist

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18/9/18
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    54
    Location:
    Adelaide
    Posted 29/7/19
    That is definitely an option. I wonder what the drop in utilisation is for whirlpooling in a bag. I think i read about a 10% drop for using a bag or a hop spider over freeballing them into the kettle, but no idea where i saw that....
     
  4. Fro-Daddy

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23/4/17
    Messages:
    242
    Likes Received:
    76
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Draftsperson
    Location:
    Brisbane, QLD
    Posted 29/7/19
    In a small bag I could believe it, but when it's something that can hold 5+kg I don't think it would be too much of a drop if anything?
    They will be able to move quite freely I think.
    It's certainly a lot cheaper and easier to try than modifying a false bottom.
     
  5. nathanvonbeerenstein

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    14/11/12
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    53
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    wantirna, melbourne
    Posted 30/7/19
    There will always be people like you are avid for scandal. What if... people just genuinely liked the Robobrew?... people compare them since they’re so similar and surprise surprise, some even have a preference! Not everything needs to be considered through the lens of a tin foil hat. Leave it alone, enjoy the innovation it’s generating and focus more on your hobby.

    Back on topic and the reason I even saw my name pop up in a Guten forum... I have a Guten from my pre-Kegland days. I ended up retrofitting a false bottom and making hop screens since (as is common knowledge) they can’t handle hops in the nude well. Helix coils were finicky at best and often left stuff caked underneath, leaving a noticeable scorch mark. They worked well warm though.

    If anyone wants to buy it on that note, drop me a direct message. I’ll throw in these hop screens/spiders/helix coils etc etc with it. Works fine and still in warranty, I just have upsized since.
     
    Kenf likes this.
  6. Kenf

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    15/7/18
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    79
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Macksville
    Posted 30/7/19
    Well the court case last week is listed on Austlii,really it’s only house keeping and legal side stepping. Does it look bad? You be the judge!
    If you do read it (MCH vs Australia vs Kee Doery & Orr’s)
    You will notice posts off this site are quoted in evidence.
    So there is a bit of a warning!
    Just remember this was only about what should be in and what shouldn’t!
    The main game is yet to occur!
    No further comment from Me!
     
    TheBeerBaron likes this.
  7. goatchop41

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    27/10/14
    Messages:
    652
    Likes Received:
    328
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Bendigo (Vic)
    Posted 30/7/19
    Mate, get out of the thread if all you're going to post about is this shit. The thread is about the Guten, and you're clogging it up with your tinfoil hat shit. Take it somewhere else and stop wasting our time please
     
    ABG likes this.
  8. goatchop41

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    27/10/14
    Messages:
    652
    Likes Received:
    328
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Bendigo (Vic)
    Posted 30/7/19
    Bugger, if the 35L is too small and the 65L is too big, then that won't work for me. I have absolutely no means with which to trim down the bigger one, and wouldn't know the first thing about it either. I was hoping that I could just add something to the smaller one to make it wide enough
     
  9. Ferment8

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    17/12/18
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    62
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Bunbury
    Posted 30/7/19
    about $25 will get you a pair of tin snips. Wiss brand are good. If your right handed get the green ones, if left handed get the red ones. just trim the edge as you turn it around. Little bit at a time

    EDIT: Actually I havent done this but thinking as its probably a stainless screen it may not work too well. The wiss edge snips might do it though. They are a much tougher cutting edge
     
    Last edited: 30/7/19
    Kenf likes this.
  10. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,435
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 30/7/19
    I wouldn't like to be in Kee Doery's shoes. Nuff said.
     
    krz, Reg Holt and Kenf like this.
  11. Kenf

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    15/7/18
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    79
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Macksville
    Posted 30/7/19
    nuff said
     
  12. sp0rk

    Mayor of Pooptown

    Joined:
    13/2/11
    Messages:
    4,152
    Likes Received:
    1,041
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Muswellbrook
    Posted 30/7/19
    As much as I'd like to pitch in on the drama, I'll drag this back on track (hopefully for good)
    Who is using Brewfather and has a Guten profile? (preferably for the 50L)
    I'm about to finally do some reviews as requested elsewhere along with my mkI lowered pickup fitting for the helix coil (mkII is ready to be built pending the results)
    I plan on trying the same brew twice, one with just a normal sparge, then with a sparge ring for recirculating over the lifted malt pipe (after sparging) to test whether this improves clarity. the theory is the grain bed will act as a filter like it would in a normal mash tun
    I'll be using some rice hulls to help avoiding slow flow. (any suggestions on how much for a 20L batch?)
    Another question is has anyone done any huge beers in a 50L Guten?
    I'm planning on doing a RIS and a BW (both around 10-12% ABV) and I'm not quite sure what preboil volume I should be looking for
     
  13. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,435
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 30/7/19
    I see where your coming from with the sparge, but I would have my doubts if the clarity would change much at all, if at all. Your already recirculating during the mash, hopefully all the little bits in the liquor would be getting dumped on top of the grain bed, when ever I have taken the pre boil gravity the wort is very clear.
    Is the RIS the 20 litre batch? Do you already know your boil of rate?
     
    Reg Holt likes this.
  14. Nullnvoid

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25/12/13
    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    1,061
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cockatoo
    Posted 30/7/19
    I think I would rather have this confirmed by the one moderator there is or AHB Admin themselves rather than you as a biased third party.
     
    onemorecell likes this.
  15. Truman42

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    31/7/11
    Messages:
    3,913
    Likes Received:
    578
    Gender:
    Male
    Home Page:
    Posted 30/7/19

    Anyone?
     
  16. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,435
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 30/7/19
    Then just do as I did,shoot Angie a line she will tell you.
     
    krz likes this.
  17. devoutharpist

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18/9/18
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    54
    Location:
    Adelaide
    Posted 30/7/19
    I've done a BW where i was shooting for something in the realm of 10-11% but i came in a bit under, which i expected to happen given the high gravity. I'll confirm with my beersmith file tonight and get back to you.

    As a side note, brewed that thing at the end of the year still needs a lot more time to mellow out, even under 10%ABV
     
  18. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,435
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 30/7/19
    Give Keg King a call they may be able to tell you.
     
  19. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,435
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 30/7/19
    Bullshit?
     
  20. awfulknauful

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28/2/18
    Messages:
    207
    Likes Received:
    86
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Christchurch
    Posted 30/7/19
    Wow!
     

Share This Page