GUTEN

[devoutharpist]

Very concerning, I appear to be one of the only other owners with a fault. They replaced the re-circulation pipe on my unit but i certainly would have raised hell if they didn't.

 

[altone]

Very concerning, I appear to be one of the only other owners with a fault. They replaced the re-circulation pipe on my unit but i certainly would have raised hell if they didn't.

And so you should! as per my last post, Keg King seem reasonable to deal with. If they were not I wouldn't buy stuff from them.

There are known weak points with the Guten that may need addressing within warranty if you use it a lot, eg. the crappy switches.
But if you search for problems with any 1v system you'll get lots of results. Be it Guten, Robobrew, Grainfather or even Braumeister

If money was not a consideration I'd personally buy a 50l Braumeister as I've seen one in operation and the quality level and the smart functions are awesome.
But as my little Guten cost 10% of a Braumeister I'm more than happy.
Already done 6 brews and no major issues.
edit: my last sentence made no sense so simplified it

 

[devoutharpist]

Now to shift topic... has anyone done any kettle souring in the Guten yet?

 

[altone]

Now to shift topic... has anyone done any kettle souring in the Guten yet?

Can't say I have, but if I was thinking of it I'd probably just drop the wort into my old urn instead of doing it in the Guten.
A Flanders Red just went onto my "to brew" list

 

[FarsideOfCrazy]

I have been having nothing but issues with the Guten. I was somehow convinced by the KK staff that purchasing the Helix Coil Snake thing but this blocked up completely so I had to empty the whole boiler. Clear out this Helix Coil then start the boil again.

On the second time I ran the Guten, the thing stopped working all together and got no power to the screen!

I tried to return the unit and then was told I won't be able to return it. I've been extremely disappointed with the customer service and quite frankly, I would not recommend this POS.

I wish I had purchased a Grainfather, Robobrew, or Braumeister as this is simply not what it cracked up to be for me and most certainly it has not been a good experience being a new brewer by using this... thing and then getting close to no customer service at all.

Hmm this post does seem a bit suss. Only joined 2 weeks ago and 1 post ( which doesn't make a whole lot of sense). Even the location of the poster doesn't seem right.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I have been having nothing but issues with the Guten. I was somehow convinced by the KK staff that purchasing the Helix Coil Snake thing but this blocked up completely so I had to empty the whole boiler. Clear out this Helix Coil then start the boil again.

On the second time I ran the Guten, the thing stopped working all together and got no power to the screen!

I tried to return the unit and then was told I won't be able to return it. I've been extremely disappointed with the customer service and quite frankly, I would not recommend this POS.

I wish I had purchased a Grainfather, Robobrew, or Braumeister as this is simply not what it cracked up to be for me and most certainly it has not been a good experience being a new brewer by using this... thing and then getting close to no customer service at all.

 

[goatchop41]

Now to shift topic... has anyone done any kettle souring in the Guten yet?

It's no my list to do. A friend has done a couple of kettle sours in his grainfather, so I was going to extract some knowledge from him.
My only concern would be bugs hiding in the pump afterwards, but I guess that a good clean with the pump running with PBW then sodium perc, then starsan would kill anything hiding in there (maybe a bit over the top, but it wouldn't be too much more effort)

 

[Redreuben]

How do you kettle sour ?

 

[altone]

It's no my list to do. A friend has done a couple of kettle sours in his grainfather, so I was going to extract some knowledge from him.
My only concern would be bugs hiding in the pump afterwards, but I guess that a good clean with the pump running with PBW then sodium perc, then starsan would kill anything hiding in there (maybe a bit over the top, but it wouldn't be too much more effort)

If you're pumping PBW through - no need for the Perc
PBW is approx 60% Perc anyway.

 

[altone]

How do you kettle sour ?

Err. something like this :
https://learn.northernbrewer.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003010874-Kettle-Souring-Made-Easy

sorry, couldn't find a how to on AHB

 

[Redreuben]

That’s about what I thought, I read the same article when I googled
Just thought I’d ask to get a reference on the page.
Apart from the occasional Berliner Weiss, sours wernt anthing when I brewed last, I did make lambic though using bottle dregs

 

[walkerhomebrew]

I have been having nothing but issues with the Guten. I was somehow convinced by the KK staff that purchasing the Helix Coil Snake thing but this blocked up completely so I had to empty the whole boiler. Clear out this Helix Coil then start the boil again.

On the second time I ran the Guten, the thing stopped working all together and got no power to the screen!

I tried to return the unit and then was told I won't be able to return it. I've been extremely disappointed with the customer service and quite frankly, I would not recommend this POS.

I wish I had purchased a Grainfather, Robobrew, or Braumeister as this is simply not what it cracked up to be for me and most certainly it has not been a good experience being a new brewer by using this... thing and then getting close to no customer service at all.

I am also "new" to brewing and had similar issue with the Guten. My screen goes blank. Does anyone else have this issue at all?

I used to brew extract kits then took a long ass break from home brewing... around 10 years. Now just getting back into it, I have not been that impressed with this unit. If I leave it for about 2 hours it comes back to life but something seems to be wrong with the electronics in the brewery. It's bizarre.

 

[Leyther]

I am also "new" to brewing and had similar issue with the Guten. My screen goes blank. Does anyone else have this issue at all?

I used to brew extract kits then took a long ass break from home brewing... around 10 years. Now just getting back into it, I have not been that impressed with this unit. If I leave it for about 2 hours it comes back to life but something seems to be wrong with the electronics in the brewery. It's bizarre.

I had something similar happen to me a while back, there is a plug in the PCB that had come loose, if you open the PCB and see a plug undone then just plug it back in, it should be fairly obvious.

 

[goatchop41]

I am also "new" to brewing and had similar issue with the Guten. My screen goes blank.

Have a read a few posts up mate...
As I mentioned earlier, and Leyther mentioned above, check the PCB. Probably just a loose connection

 

[Edd]

Will be making the switch from BIAB to the Guten next month, just building up a stock of 'parts' to make sure I am ready to hit the ground running once I take delivery. Whats the general consensus for fitting hose to the immersion chiller? Looks as though the chiller is about 10mm pipe therefore if I just connect good old 12mm garden hose to the end of this with secure hose clamps is this going to be enough or should I really be looking at compression fittings? If so, and excuse a stupid question, are 12mm compression fittings fit for purpose here? Cheers

 

[FarsideOfCrazy]

Hi Edd. I did have a length of hose with hose clamps but no matter how tight i had them it still leaked. I ended up getting compression fittings from pirtek and no the 12mm ones won't fit. You need 3/8in or 10mm

 

[Neil Buttriss]

I just put ordinary garden hose on both sides, the first clamps I put on were the ones that you tighten by hand they leaked, Then I heated the hose up with a hair dryer (I also use a hairdryer for beer and gas line works a treat) and I only put the hose on far enough for the clamps to fit then while still soft I used 11-16mm screw on clamps. It worked well no leaks

 

[Abird89]

I jammed the hose on with the hand tightened clamps. Hasn’t leaked yet.

 

[devoutharpist]

i just went for hose clamps, went back and tightened them every few days before i brewed to make sure. had some very minor leakage but the connection sat outside of the kettle so it was fine.

If i did two clamps on each connection i reckon i might have cancelled it out

 

[EmptyB]

Discussions elsewhere about warranties prompted a question that I think is better suited here.

A common fault in the Guten is some of the electricals, in particular a dodgy switch. Purchasers of these units are apparently buying a replacement switch in advance, just waiting for the original to cark it.

Does replacing this switch yourself, instead of sending in to Kegking for repair, void the warranty?