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  1. nosco

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    Probably would do the job very nicely. That would be manual control Im guessing?

    The Smartpid has all the bells and whistles though. PID temp control, pump control (although I usually leave it on during the mash), step mashing, mobile phone control, hop timer,web interface and a future improved web interface with recipe input.

    Luckily for me they are sold out :D I was about to buy one even though I kept telling myself I dont really need one. The Guten is doing every thing I need it to for now. Ive done a few step mashes on lagers that have worked well. Theres plenty of other things I need to be concentrating on. Like cleaning the brewery/garage. So much crap in the way of my brewdays. I should wait to see what MP comes up with too.

    Edit: Id need help to wire up a regular PID which was another bonus of the Smartpid.
     
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    So erm....what was that i said. "Dont really need it blah blah Guten does what i need it to blah blah blah". So they are back in stock. Dam you easy internet shopping
     
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    Posted 7/11/17
    To counteract this, you just need to play around with adjusting the temp reading (instructions on how to do so should have come with your unit)
     
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    Posted 11/11/17
    Hey! Managed to get rid of that restrictive unserviceable ball valve with a shiny ss one. Turns out a 15mm Snaplid Clip fits the hex part of the ss ball valve perfectly to support it. Drilled a hole and ran soft washers both sides and a nut w/ a washer. The bottom I replaced with a heavier duty jubilee clip (hose clamp). Time will tell if the bottom will hold up - it's double the weight! In which case I'll just weld it up.
     

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    I wonder if we could buy those little mag drive pumps directly from them, did you notice if there is a manufacturers name on them Magical?
     
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    Posted 11/11/17
    Didn't see but there is a serial number: 201609062

    The current pump is a mag drive type, just smaller baby version of a chugger. It's a reliable design which I don't see failing anytime soon (under normal usage) and seems quite capable provided you don't send chunks through it
     

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    Posted 11/11/17
    Actually tbh I have tried to intentionally break it by running it non stop during a boil in numerous brews. To my dismay it keeps going with no evidence of internal scoring (from heated plastic)
     
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    Thanks for that, just trawling through Alibaba at the moment, I suppose it would be easier to use your photo and put up a buying request.
     
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    Does anyones temp sit higher than the setting? I find fine was always on temp or higher ( on the display) I never measured it IMG_20171107_103536401.jpg
     
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    Posted 11/11/17
    Yes. The position of the sensor causes some discrepancy as the water directly above the heating element reads slightly higher. Try running the pump or stirring during strike and your temps will match the controller. I would recommend getting a temperature pen or something because the Guten isn't exactly known for accuracy! Calibration can be done using the + and - buttons pressed simultaneously to adjust (if it's off, but only verified by a calibrated source)
     
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    Oh I should have said that was in mash with the pump running. I agree I should get a temp reading to calibrate it
     
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    Posted 11/11/17
    Oh right. I find mash temp being overshot often times for me was caused by the element kicking on and off. Insulating the mash tun, running lower wattage (less duty), and recirculating fairly- not too quick- keeps it steady. If you've gotten over the shiny stainless, wrap it in cardboard and/or insulating material. I can keep a steady temp for 20-25 minutes with heat off!
     
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    Posted 14/11/17 at 5:38 PM
    Got a video up of the PID setup

     
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    Posted 15/11/17 at 6:39 PM
    So looks like after filling it to the top and tuning it, it seems to work alright. Turns off 5 degrees freedom units before the set mark and just lets it rise to where it needs to be (within half a degree F). I tried putting in settings I found on the information super highway initially but the overshoot was a bit much. I opted for the automatic tune function and seems to work okay. This took a couple hours though because the cardboard/foam kept the temperature from dropping. I'll do another one down the road with a brew session.

    In the mean time I'm sourcing parts for a sparge pipe that runs over the top of the mash that will work with the pump mod I did.
     

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