Extract recipe - need subsitiute for Bravo hops

[mongey]

Heya

Putting my order online for my next brew . In the interest of moving forward I'm going to do my first boil and do this coopers session IPA recepie .

• 1.7kg Pale Ale Brew Can
• 2 x 500g Light Dry Malt
• 200g Crystal Wheat Grains
• 25g Nelson Sauvin Hops
• 25g Galaxy Hops
• 25g Bravo Hops
• 11.5g Safale US05 Yeast
• 250g pkt Carbonation Drops

only problem is ESB is out of Bravo hops pellets.I googled a sustitue and it said columbus/tomahhwak which is out of stock as well.

I have the nelson savun and the galaxy pellets in the freezer so this recepie is screaming to be done . what can I use instead or Bravo ?

 

[MHB]

Depends entirely on what the Bravo was for, if it was a bittering hop its probably not all that important, just match the bitterness contribution. Bravo is described as a bittering hop
Simcoe, Warrior, Centennial, Palisade(?) or there are lots of possible substitutes for CZT probably most American C hops...
Mind you with 25g of Nelson and Galaxy It might not matter if its just for the fruitiness even good old Cluster works
Mark

 

[mongey]

thanks


The bravo is for the last 10 mins of 30 min boil ,probably shoudlve put that

Add Nelson Sauvin hops and boil for 10mins
then Galaxy Hops for a further 10mins then
Bravo Hops for the final 10mins (30mins boil in total).

 

[slcmorro]

A quick Google search says that Zeus, Columbus and Tomahawk are suitable substitutes.

 

[MHB]

A quick Google search says that Zeus, Columbus and Tomahawk are suitable substitutes.

CZT all the same hop - no I don't know why either but they are.
M

 

[mongey]

A quick Google search says that Zeus, Columbus and Tomahawk are suitable substitutes.

yeah I saw that. they are out of stock also which is why I was looking at other options

 

[drfad]

Go more galaxy

 

[GibboQLD]

CZT all the same hop - no I don't know why either but they are.
M

I think I found this somewhere on AHB and saved it for future reference:

Columbus and Tomahawk are the same thing grown by different folk on different farms. Zeus is the step child with some similarities.

Tomahawk:
Origin/History Tomahawk® Brand F10 cv. is a bittering hop bred by Charles Zimmermann. It was selected for high alpha content, high oil content, and good yield potential. Tomahawk® was the first commercially grown “Super Alpha” variety.


Zeus:
Origin/History Zeus is a super high alpha variety developed in the Yakima Valley. It was selected for the high alpha content and high yield potential.

And this from Google:

The Columbus hop actually comes from issues with copyrights and patents between Yakima Chef, Inc and Charles E. Zimmerman. Zimmerman originally produced this variety. To clean the issue up, a joint venture was formed and named HUSA-CEZ, LLC. This is a deal between Zimmerman and Hopunion, USA.