2017 Hop Plantations, Show Us Your Hop Garden!

[BottloBill]

So your trying to tell me you went through testing of rhizome pathogens when you collected all your root stock for your yard? I can honestly say you have done well with your setup despite the serving you got from certain members when you started out. I can also honestly say you have a massive chip as a result and you just don't know when to lie down.....build a bridge and move on bloke!

 

[BottloBill]

Oh please tell me what's wrong with my Cascade

 

[Stu Brew]

Oh please tell me what's wrong with my Cascade

A. Pots WAY to small.

B. Should have multiple shoots at that height.

C. Probably wont get you more than 200g of hops.

Just my advice.....but yeah I have 160 in the ground....at least you're trying!!

Im impressed though....1 plants a good start!

Make sure you give it some good slow release Nitrogen at that height...Neutrong Seamungus is a good option in pellets. That should help boost it...and im talking 2kgs now and then 2-3kgs when its at 6 foot

Got to string this lot in the next week....then ferts then mulch....guess its a bit different for me. Honestly though get them into the ground...they just dont like pots...they want to run and climb under and above the ground...Best way to keep them healthy imo.

 

[Stu Brew]

Some of my spares in the hothouse look about that big atm!

Soil is still not warm enough for big movement here. Has been a strange season. They will boost soon, as soon as the soil hits temp they'll be up 6m before I can blink a few times.

Coir is good as an early medium helps to create some new fibrous roots especially if you're adding things like worm tea and vitamins. Young plants thrive on things other than NPK nutrients. The reason I use coir is because its sustainble and its washed of heavy metals and EC checked. Always in that case at the perfect pH for Hops and holds enough water but cant hold to much! Great stuff. We raise all our veg seeds here in the same stuff.

Size at this stage isnt that much chop.....I know its cool, but we're still a long way from Summer Solstice for a hops plant

(edit more info on coir)

 

[BottloBill]

A. Pots WAY to small.

B. Should have multiple shoots at that height.

C. Probably wont get you more than 200g of hops.

Just my advice.....but yeah I have 160 in the ground....at least you're trying!!

Im impressed though....1 plants a good start!

Make sure you give it some good slow release Nitrogen at that height...Neutrong Seamungus is a good option in pellets. That should help boost it...and im talking 2kgs now and then 2-3kgs when its at 6 foot

Got to string this lot in the next week....then ferts then mulch....guess its a bit different for me. Honestly though get them into the ground...they just dont like pots...they want to run and climb under and above the ground...Best way to keep them healthy imo.

That's just one of many lol.....I am by no means a commercial grower nor do I have the room for it. That particular plant is a first year and suffered from use of a slow release fertiliser believe it or not.
I started using fish emulsion on it a week ago!!!! Here check out the Chinook section this season....cute ha!

 

[mofox1]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

 

[BottloBill]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

sounds good....but I don't drink when I'm working please have an ale for me please

 

[Camo6]

I'm going to go have a beer now, you guys should too...

Sounds like some already have...

 

[Stu Brew]

That's just one of many lol.....I am by no means a commercial grower nor do I have the room for it. That particular plant is a first year and suffered from use of a slow release fertiliser believe it or not.
I started using fish emulsion on it a week ago!!!! Here check out the Chinook section this season....cute ha!

Can you do me one favor and check your soil pH. Im not tring to have a dick swinging comp on this stuff. I genuinely want to see people growing kilos in their back yards!! pH is the key to soil....soil health is the key to good plants! Im not trying to have arguments....I have legit run my own Hort business for over a decade before i bought a property and started growing hops. Im really stoked to be specialising in something(hort is stupid, you're floundering until you have a specialty).

pH.....Number 1 thing you look at. Get it between 5.5-6.8 for hops. Sulphate of Ammonia will really help a lot of you guys not worried about organic lowers pH fast and is a GREAT source of nitrogen.

Other than that to lower pH you can use sulphur but it takes a while.

Hops also do not like built up salts in the soil....so anything like i just said. Sulphate of Ammonia is not a LONG TERM solution to pH. You need to look at your soils pH content your local water.

All in all. In the real world of Horticulture. If I had plants showing deficiencys early....I would just do what I do and ignore it. If the plant was healthy the year before...and if you have checked you pH and done all the rest of it....you shouldnt be worried....potentially and experienced horticulturalists know this....leaves on plants can exibit all sorts of weird and wonderful 'deficiencies' if you're only looking for them, and not thinking well it was 4° the other night...my hops wont really be to keen on that....as 3 foot juniors!

 

[Rocker1986]

Try planting some Basil aroudn the bases of the effected ones. The smell from Basil confuses a lot of bugs....so they will keep away from it? I think you'll be alright, once they start actually growing quickly...has been a long cold winter which is weird for Australia!

I think they're ok now, that Success spray looks to have done the job on the caterpillars (as it did last year too), I've been checking the plants every day and haven't seen any return. On the packaging it says it keeps working as a residual thing as well so maybe that's why. I'll spray them periodically until they start really taking off. I think once they start growing properly they'll be alright too, they were last year. Even when the grasshoppers moved in they didn't really do much damage because the plants were growing so vigorously anyway. The winter here wasn't particularly cold but the weather is up and down a bit at the moment. We have a few days in the high 20s then it decides to go back to low 20s... I'll just be glad when it stabilises and stays warm.

I have noticed a few little black spots on the underside of some leaves that look like bugs, wondering if it might be worth giving them a bit of white oil just in case they're mites or something.

 

[RobH]

My Cascade is about 1.5 meters tall

 

[ein stein]

Only mature leaves will show signs of diseases....but hey....you're a real horticulturalist....you didnt even ask about soil pH which is where any calcium deficiency would be coming in. Guess this is why people are listening to your advice? Over the actual qualified guys....... Good try though....you'll finish cert 2 eventually!!

what i said was i wasn't sure what was wrong with rockers plants and he should feel free to get an opinion from a real horticulturalist, implying that i am not one, i was only sure what N deficient looks like from my days using ****** acidic bags of barky potting mix. but as long as people are getting their advice from you, Stu, atleast they are getting it from a REAL A-hole.

 

[scooterism]

Hallertau on the Gold Coast, 4 yr old plant.

 

[BottloBill]

A doubling in height over three days, 47cm on the 19th Oct and now at 1000cm today in a 60 litre pot.

 

[scooterism]

Hallertau on the Gold Coast, 4 yr old plant.

Should or do I need to trim back some of the bines?

 

[Danscraftbeer]

Its hard to say. Its a call for the gardener to make. I have let them just go and found that many bines that are skinny and weaker will climb but don't bare any hops at all, but they do take up nutrients. Then again a broader lateral bush can put out lots of hops too.
One thing is you can cut off lots of short bines and it only helps the larger bines. You can propagate those cuttings too if you want.

 

[mofox1]

If you've been growing for 4 years, then you've more experience than I... however I try try to keep my bine to line count at 3 or 4 max. Simply because if the line is too crowded it prevents the laterals from growing.

I tend to let them have a go up to the first meter, but the weedy, thin looking ones get progressively removed.

I've got around 40+ shoots come up now for my Chinook. Only six lines. That's worse odds than Russian Roulette.

 

[Stu Brew]

I think they're ok now, that Success spray looks to have done the job on the caterpillars (as it did last year too), I've been checking the plants every day and haven't seen any return. On the packaging it says it keeps working as a residual thing as well so maybe that's why. I'll spray them periodically until they start really taking off. I think once they start growing properly they'll be alright too, they were last year. Even when the grasshoppers moved in they didn't really do much damage because the plants were growing so vigorously anyway. The winter here wasn't particularly cold but the weather is up and down a bit at the moment. We have a few days in the high 20s then it decides to go back to low 20s... I'll just be glad when it stabilises and stays warm.

I have noticed a few little black spots on the underside of some leaves that look like bugs, wondering if it might be worth giving them a bit of white oil just in case they're mites or something.

Just dump some worm tea or something on them.....wait for the light....getting warmer here now....they'll go when they're ready!!

 

[Stu Brew]

Should or do I need to trim back some of the bines?

How long until summer solstice there?? Probably needs a lot of nitrogen....they're heavy feeders!! Stay away from salt based though...as salts will build up in a pot and they wont be keen on that!

 

[Mightypns]

Cascade few yrs old.

Victoria (I think) second year.

 

[kaiserben]

Are the brown spots something I need to worry about?

 

[Rocker1986]

A doubling in height over three days, 47cm on the 19th Oct and now at 1000cm today in a 60 litre pot.

Looks a bit short for a 10 metre high plant. It's nice when they start taking off though.

 

[BottloBill]

Looks a bit short for a 10 metre high plant. It's nice when they start taking off though.

My bad 100cm

 

[Mardoo]

2nd year Willamette is going mad, closing quickly on 3 metres (well, including the pot). 1st year Victoria is still sleepy. Too long in the fridge before planting, methinks. She'll perk up before too long.

 

[Stu Brew]

So me trellis is done!! guess its all a swinging comp from here?

Really not to keen on pinning myself against home growers!

Bit of a mow mow today works well we set things up to fit the rideon right down the guts of the lines!!

Yes its not like my stuff is 8 foot yet.....but thats all parallels of southern!!

 

[Stu Brew]

what i said was i wasn't sure what was wrong with rockers plants and he should feel free to get an opinion from a real horticulturalist, implying that i am not one, i was only sure what N deficient looks like from my days using ****** acidic bags of barky potting mix. but as long as people are getting their advice from you, Stu, atleast they are getting it from a REAL A-hole.

All good....im still better at horticulture than land management...so we're all aiming for something mate!!

 

[kaiserben]

I'm a bit worried about the brown spots on the leaves of a few of my plants. Is this something I need to worry about?

 

[ein stein]

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I'm a bit worried about the brown spots on the leaves of a few of my plants. Is this something I need to worry about?

Doesnt look too healthy mate, not anything i have encountered before tho.

 

[Rocker1986]

Not sure what that might be, but is there any bugs or **** on the underside of the leaves? Mine started looking unhealthy recently, thought it might have been some disease or deficiency somewhere, nope. Checked underside of the leaves. ******* caterpillars.

 

[Belgrave Brewer]

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I'm a bit worried about the brown spots on the leaves of a few of my plants. Is this something I need to worry about?

I'd check for the obvious things like catepillars, aphids, etc. first. It looks like the leaves are being tapped.