2015 Vic Christmas in July Case Swap

[Black n Tan]

I am fine with PET bottles, but my RIS is already bottled in glass. I am sure some others may have bottled already also. So I suggest that we request that anyone who has not yet bottled do so in PET and make it hard and fast rule for the Xmas swap meet. Of course I could always keep my RIS: it is drinking nicely (except for under-carbonation).

 

[MartinOC]

Anyone got a source for these things? How much do they cost? Can they be re-used etc..etc..?

I've never used anything but glass, nor a problem with bombs - ever! Even at Vicbrew, where we're dealing with hundreds of bottles, it's rare to get a gusher & in the 20-odd years I've been involved in comps, I can't remember a "bomb". Is there something unique about AHB case-swappers that they overcarbonate??

I'm personally against dictating what can & can't be used (plus I have a swag of bottles anyway & would prefer not to shell-out extra). I'd rather people take care to carbonate their beer properly (ie. proper fermentation & priming practices etc..).

 

[Yob]

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to even discuss this Martin, however, the last 2 swaps has proven that not to be correct.

Ive had bottles (from swaps) blow in my basement, I've had overcarbed bottles sitting in my hall with the youngun walking past (last swap at mine) and other experiences as well.

The fact remains that there IS a danger and being proactive about it may well save someones eye.. or more so, someones child.

Perhaps bottlers could gladwrap glass entries this time round? (to contain shards)

 

[Nullnvoid]

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need to even discuss this Martin, however, the last 2 swaps has proven that not to be correct.

Ive had bottles (from swaps) blow in my basement, I've had overcarbed bottles sitting in my hall with the youngun walking past (last swap at mine) and other experiences as well.

The fact remains that there IS a danger and being proactive about it may well save someones eye.. or more so, someones child.

Perhaps bottlers could gladwrap glass entries this time round? (to contain shards)

That's a good idea with the gladwrap for people already bottled or cannot get PET. A good compromise for this event.

I agree working towards PET like the rest of the swaps is the way to go.

 

[MartinOC]

OK, I've done a bit of googling & they don't seem to be as expensive as I first thought & for the sake of safety, I'll join the party.

Is this a good price: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-x-750ml-PET-Screw-Cap-Bottles-Includes-Caps-Home-Brew/271176166530?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc2c59166b2844cac803313699afdba57%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D151473902296 or does anyone know of a better source?

I assume we're going with 750ml?

 

[Black n Tan]

OK, I've done a bit of googling & they don't seem to be as expensive as I first thought & for the sake of safety, I'll join the party.

Is this a good price: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-x-750ml-PET-Screw-Cap-Bottles-Includes-Caps-Home-Brew/271176166530?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc2c59166b2844cac803313699afdba57%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D151473902296 or does anyone know of a better source?

I assume we're going with 750ml?

It is a good price but just check that they are nylon lined. PET will allow oxygen ingress so typically they have a nylon inner liner to keep it out.

 

[JB]

OK, I've done a bit of googling & they don't seem to be as expensive as I first thought & for the sake of safety, I'll join the party.

Is this a good price: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15-x-750ml-PET-Screw-Cap-Bottles-Includes-Caps-Home-Brew/271176166530?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc2c59166b2844cac803313699afdba57%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D151473902296 or does anyone know of a better source?

I assume we're going with 750ml?

Martin, these are the cheapest I've located: https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_730411/coopers-pet-beer-bottles-and-caps-15-pack - I'm unsure about being nylon lined though B&T

 

[Yob]

http://www.ptonline.com/articles/barrier-bottle-technologies-square-off

 

[kcurnow]

http://www.ptonline.com/articles/barrier-bottle-technologies-square-off

So what I'm getting from this is that the shelf life of beer in PET is 6 months tops. Maybe longer for other exotic blends. But if your wanting to have an aged RIS or barley wine I'm guessing PET is not the way to go.

 

[Yob]

You'll note I didn't say I gave away all my bottles, I also use these wonderful glass growlers I got somewhere

 

[MartinOC]

JB, thanks. That seems like the way to go.

SWMBO say's "Just tell people to brew properly & bottle their beers in glass. Anything else is just un-Australian". However, I see the merits.....

 

[Black n Tan]

Martin, these are the cheapest I've located: https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_730411/coopers-pet-beer-bottles-and-caps-15-pack - I'm unsure about being nylon lined though B&T

I am pretty sure the Coopers bottles are nylon coated, so a good cheap option.

 

[AJ80]

Boiling my swap beer as I type. Was supposed to be a 100% Brettanomyces fermented American blonde for something different (my first 100% Brett ferment). However in between buying the Brett and brewing, the strain I've bought has been re-classified as Saccharomyces. Damn.

1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. AndrewF
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Symphony1975
24. poggor

Reserve Swapper
1. Husky
2. Bumma

Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.

Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16. AndrewF
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21 symphony 1975
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky

 

[AndrewF]

Unfortunately I am not going to be able to make it so I'm subbing husky into my swap position and freeing up a cube spot.

1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. Husky
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Symphony1975
24. poggor
Reserve Swapper

1. Bumma
Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.
Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16.
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21 symphony 1975
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky

 

[kcurnow]

1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut - Jaggery IPA
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. Husky
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Symphony1975
24. poggor
Reserve Swapper

1. Bumma
Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.
Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16.
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21 symphony 1975
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky

 

[droid]

1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut - Jaggery IPA
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid - 20minute APA or urquell lager (whichever tastes better)
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. Husky
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Symphony1975
24. poggor
Reserve Swapper
1. Bumma
Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.
Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16.
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21 symphony 1975
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

Urquell lager urquell lager!!!

;-)

 

[symphony1975]

sorry lads i'm out. family holiday to europe for a month with me and a mate doing a Belgium beer trip on the side (without wife & kids!) ooooooooohhhhhh yeeeeeeaaaahhhhh...........

1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut - Jaggery IPA
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid - 20minute APA or urquell lager (whichever tastes better)
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. Husky
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Bumma
24. poggor
Reserve Swapper
1.
Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.
Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16.
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky

 

[JB]

sorry lads i'm out. family holiday to europe for a month with me and a mate doing a Belgium beer trip on the side (without wife & kids!) ooooooooohhhhhh yeeeeeeaaaahhhhh...........

shame we won't see ya mate, sounds like an awesome trip though!

 

[Midnight Brew]

Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:38 PM
sorry lads i'm out. family holiday to europe for a month with me and a mate doing a Belgium beer trip on the side (without wife & kids!) ooooooooohhhhhh yeeeeeeaaaahhhhh...........


droid, on 15 May 2015 - 08:17 AM, said:
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL - American IPA
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut - Jaggery IPA
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Midnight Brew - The Explorer (Dark Ale III)
11. Technobabble66
12. MartinOC - Dunkeldoppelweizenbock (I've never made one, but I tempted Mardoo with the prospect, so I guess I'm committed..). However, current ambient temperatures up here are more conducive to lager fermentation & it's just gonna get colder.....
13. Whiteferret
14. Grainer - Californian White IPA
15. Droid - 20minute APA or urquell lager (whichever tastes better)
16. Black n Tan
17. AJ80 - Fake blonde? Nope, fake Brett
18. Husky
19. JB
20. Micbrew
21. Navarau
22. Damn
23. Bumma
24. poggor
Reserve Swapper
1.
Non-Swapper-attendees:
1.
Brewer/Cuber
1. Idzy
2. DJ_L3tHAL
3. Yob
4. Nullnvoid
5. Brewnut
6. GrumpyPaul
7. mofox1
8. Tahoose
9. Siborg
10. Technobabble66
11. MartinOC
12. Whiteferret
13. Grainer
14. Mardoo
15. AJ80
16. Midnight Brew
17. JB
18. Micbrew
19. Navarau
20. Damn
21
22. poggor
23. droid
24. husky