The dice have been rolled in the Senate

[Ducatiboy stu]

I am not even sure that I even know what the Liberals are campaigning on....its like ...well...nothing

So far its the Building something commission legislation......and thats about it....


They will keep immigration and asylum seekers well out of the picture, the wont want to mention tax increases, they wont want to upset big business.....they only have the Unions to bash basically

And Labor has heaps of ammo from Big Tone and the fact that Big Mal is filthy rich and stuff

 

[LAGERFRENZY]

They can't have a good old fashioned Pork Barrel Budget because there is basically no money to spend. The only legislative record that they can stand on is Abbot's because Turnbull has just sat on his fat arse sending out lame thought bubbles since he knifed him.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

We all know there is no money, and its both sides fault.... we need to get over that and start giving a **** about how the government spends our money

We had a period there for a while when "The Budget" was a mantra for both sides and what it would do for us in terms of giving us no money at the end of the day, but making us keep thinking we did actually get something knowing we got nothing


Its going to be Unions, Tax, eDUCATIon, Health, The NBN, The rich, Tax, Environment/Climate ...and probably some terrorism to throw the scent

 

[LAGERFRENZY]

My finer point was that if they cannot bribe with goodies or stand on their record then all that they have is a big "Trust me - I'm right". Same for Shorten as well. The winner will be the one that the voters mistrust the least.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Yes, it is almost a race to the bottom

 

[madpierre06]

Politics/govt in this country has been heading that way for a while now...was inevitable.

 

[LAGERFRENZY]

The funniest thing is that all of those rag tag "ratbag" cross-bench Senators stood up to the PM and gave him his DD trigger after he had changed the rules that will see them finding it very hard to become re-elected. These guys just effectively risked $200,000 a year for the next three years take home pay (plus expenses) to vote on a principal. Maybe they were not such a rabble after all as I fully expected them to fold like tents.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I think its great they stood up

Voters now know more about the senate and what it does from doing this

Could end up in tears for both parties

 

[HBHB]

Watching any parliament sitting on TV should be enough to convince anyone that with the current crop of politicians, we'd find better options for someone to run the country in a flock of seagulls sitting outside a fish and chip shop. Time for all of them to stop their ******** party squabbling, put personal agendas in a box along with their gravy boats and do what they are supposed to do. All i see is 2 packs of ******s doing what has become accepted as the norm in the last 15 or so years.

Reality strikes.......Better go to work and do my job.

 

[fraser_john]

What annoys me is that people don't think to vote independently, they tick the same damn boxes every time they go in, so yes, we get one group of tossers replaced by the tossers that were on the other side of the bench.

If people thought before voting, we would see more independents that actually respond to their electorate.

 

[malt and barley blues]

Yes, it is almost a race to the bottom

All started going downhill after Kevin Dud got elected. Gone, the golden years of Little Johnny.

 

[pcmfisher]

What annoys me is that people don't think to vote independently, they tick the same damn boxes every time they go in, so yes, we get one group of tossers replaced by the tossers that were on the other side of the bench.

If people thought before voting, we would see more independents that actually respond to their electorate.

Yep, vote independent.
Don't bother looking or can't actually find who their preferences are going to.

 

[JDW81]

Gone, the golden years of Little Johnny.

Yep, the man who brought us middle class welfare, the baby bonus, the GST, work choices, got us involved in Iraq, squandered the mining boom on tax cuts for his rich mates and on previously mentioned welfare and wound back medicare to name a few.

What a guy.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Unfortunatly what Little Johny did with middle class welfare ( FTB A & B ) made it almost impossible for side to get rid of it.

Removing FTB A b& B would go down with voters like a rock in a pond and almost certainly lead to electrol defeat.

Thje only way you could do it was to do it as the very first thing after being elected, allowing 3 yrs for everyone to get over it

 

[Dave70]

Yep, the man who brought us middle class welfare, the baby bonus, the GST, work choices, got us involved in Iraq, squandered the mining boom on tax cuts for his rich mates and on previously mentioned welfare and wound back medicare to name a few.

What a guy.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/06/debunking-the-middle-class-welfare-furphy/

Iraq?
And if armys don't exist to topple despotic regimes run by nepotistic psychopaths like Saddam Hussein, who's country had lost its sovereignty under international law for repeated aggression to neighboring states (invasion of Kuwait), violation weapons non proliferation treaties, violating the genocide convention (Halabja chemical attack) among countless other atrocities, then what are they for?
Cant expect your allies to do all the heavy lifting unfortunately.

 

[shacked]

Interesting days 75.. it will be

75 days eh... perhaps we should do an election 'beer advent calendar' style case swap for the last 25 days. It could be politician themed... the label could say that it's going to deliver a barrel aged Russian Imperial Stout but when you open it, it's just repackaged XXXX gold

 

[JDW81]

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/06/debunking-the-middle-class-welfare-furphy/

Iraq?
And if armys don't exist to topple despotic regimes run by nepotistic psychopaths like Saddam Hussein

But that's not why we went in. It was cause of all of those weapons of mass destruction he was planning to blow us all up with that didn't exist. And if our job is to topple every despot in the world, why haven't we invaded North Korea/Zimbabwe/Multiple other failed African states?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

But that's not why we went in. It was cause of all of those weapons of mass destruction he was planning to blow us all up with that didn't exist. And if our job is to topple every despot in the world, why haven't we invaded North Korea/Zimbabwe/Multiple other failed African states?

........and Canberra......

 

[SBOB]

What annoys me is that people don't think to vote independently, they tick the same damn boxes every time they go in, so yes, we get one group of tossers replaced by the tossers that were on the other side of the bench.

If people thought before voting, we would see more independents that actually respond to their electorate.

or always vote for the same of the two major parties regardless of how good or bad a job the currently elected version is doing...
either of the two major political party could start drowning puppies tomorrow and the next galaxy poll would still show a margin between the two major parties in single digits

 

[JDW81]

I did see that Bronny hasn't been pre-selected for her seat this time around. Poor dear will just have to retire on her $200 000+ pension.