Survey: Kegs From U.s.

[dodge]

According to the paperwork they sent me, it says:

GST is levied on imported goods, unless they are exempt for reasons stated in the GST Act. The GST Act states that the importer will pay GST at the same time and in the same manner as Customs duty. The rate of GST applying to Taxable Importations is 10% of the "Value of the Taxable Importation (VOTI)". The VOTI is the total of:
a) the original Customs value of the imported goods; plus
b ) the amount paid on postage and insurance; plus
c) any Customs duty payable in respect of the importation of the goods; plus
d) any wine tax payable in respect of the local entry of the goods.

For Private Importers (ie private individuals importing goods for their own use) and the consignment is under $A1000 value, I need to supply an invoice or receipt by either fax or phone (which I did this morning - they accept PayPal or E-bay invoices)...

When they've completed their assessment, Aust Post will deliver the goods to my nearest post office. I will need to pay any duty/GST applicable. If the goods are over $A1000 value, I need a formal Customs Entry form B616 AND pay duty/GST before the goods are onforwarded to the nearest post office. A formal clearance attracts a processing fee of $48.85...charming...

Hopefully, they'll see that I'm up for about $19 in GST and leave me alone - there are lots of other big fish with container loads of boogie board bags to deal with! h34r:

TL

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The paperwork you received was exactly the same as mine.

When I went to Granville to pick up the kegs I was asked by a Customs officer was I a home brewer as they had been getting a lot of these items lately.

In phone conversations with Customs and at Granville I was advised that because the total cost of my purchase was less than $A1,000 and because it was for personal use I was not liable for GST.

Have any of youse guys had to pay GST?

It appears to be a grey area, open to interpretation.

I have my kegs at home, have not paid GST or a brokeridge fee, am I lucky or can I expect an invoice in the mail from Customs requesting payment of GST?

TL
Hope I didn't raise your hope re GST free but as explained to me it was not payable - time will tell.

Anyway all I have to do now is make time to brew so I can fill the little buggers.

Regards and happy GST free brewing

Dodge

 

[Trough Lolly]

The way I look at it is that I'm still in front - I paid $A190 for 4 kegs and some goodies. If I pay $19 GST and $9.50 duty on the SS kegs then $A218.50 for 4 x 18L cornies, delivered, is a good deal anyway I look at it...

I suppose I'll find out what GST I'll pay, if any, when I go to the local PO and collect them!
TL

 

[sluggerdog]

Just wondering where you guys are from that are being made to pay for the GSt and duty on the kegs?

Maybe it is one spot where this is happening..?

 

[Ross]

TL,

I'd be very surprised if they actually charge you GST - 4 kegs for personal use shouldn't attract any GST...

At least I hope not - that's not a precedent we want setting...

cheers Ross

 

[Trough Lolly]

You betcha Ross,
Mind you - it's up to Customs as to whether they want to chase me for small change or not.

TL

 

[redbeard]

if you have picked up your kegs & walked away, possibly signing something that you have the goods, then its unlikely that customs/auspost will send you a bill.

if you had any charges to pay, they should have told you then. my experience from several years ago, is that they wont give the goods unles you pay.

on the other hand, a customs broker / ups / fedex, invariably delivers the goods quickly & then sends the bill via post.

 

[user 1153]

Hey Guys,

I just went through the online ordering process for 2 X 5gal recons.
I stopped however when it said Postage $91.00.

Is this really how much the postage would be for 2? What did it cost the rest of you?

Cheers

Troy

 

[redbeard]

troy, 2 3gal kegs cost me $us35, which was a bit less than what the online process said. sorry, cant rememeber exactly. did u choose usps seapost / the cheapest option ?

 

[user 1153]

hi redbeard.
thanks for the reply. From my calcs using USPS website, I think for a single keg it would be $31. Even it it was double for 2 (which it wouldn't be) it would still be ~$60.

The only postage options are:

UPS Ground
UPS 3 day select

USPS Parcel Post

It only lets you choose the bottom one.

 

[Doc]

Troy,

I chose the option that set the postage to $0, then they sorted out the cheapest option.
From memory it was US$33 for shipping two 3 gal kegs to me in Sydney earlier in the year.

Beers,
Doc

 

[Trough Lolly]

if you have picked up your kegs & walked away, possibly signing something that you have the goods, then its unlikely that customs/auspost will send you a bill.

Naah, I don't physically have them yet - my understanding is that they will assess whether or not I need to pay GST and duty and then onforward them to my nearest Post Office, where I will collect and pay whatever GST / duty that they want to impose.

Hopefully they'll get to Canberra in the next week or so... <_<

 

[piglos]

on the other hand, a customs broker / ups / fedex, invariably delivers the goods quickly & then sends the bill via post.

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Having done work for UPS and Fedex and the like, I found that they will pay the charges on your behalf, before delivering them COD. Unless you are an account customer of theirs.

 

[deadly]

Troy,
2x 5 gal $42.50 - 4x5 gal $73 was the price i got to Perth WA
put in the $0 dollar amount and they send it cheapest option.Be prepared to wait though.

 

[mchitiea]

Remember to add $2.50 for the shipping boxes. Two 5-gal kegs, U.S. Parcel Post, Economy Surface = $45USD; 4 kegs = $75USD
- That darn shipping calculator that the order form uses does not access the "Economy Surface" part of the USPS database......RATS......

Matt.

 

[Trough Lolly]

Kegs arrived today - box was dinted in one upper corner but still sealed/intact and no sign of damage to the goods that were well packed.

Ordered on 30 March,
Paid on 31 March,
Arrived Customs Sydney 1 June (8 weeks),
Delivered Canberra 7 June (9 weeks)...NO GST or import duty charged by customs despite my earlier fun with them!

Kegs in good shape / condition - no dings and all four were holding pressure. Thanks also Matt, for the extra goodies as you promised - the extras were very much appreciated by a newby kegger! :beer:

Cheers,
TL (Rowan)

 

[KillerRx4]

Kegs were just delivered to me at my desk at work

Shipped 21/4/05. Delivered 27/6/05. So approx 9 weeks.

All look good & have pressure although I wont remove them from the box & check them over thoroughly til i get them home.

Cant wait to get the 3 Gal party keg crankin. :chug:

Many thanks to Matt & Terry.

 

[sluggerdog]

Kegs were just delivered to me at my desk at work

Shipped 21/4/05. Delivered 27/6/05. So approx 9 weeks.

All look good & have pressure although I wont remove them from the box & check them over thoroughly til i get them home.

Cant wait to get the 3 Gal party keg crankin. :chug:

Many thanks to Matt & Terry.

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Good to hear you had some success Killer..

I made my order 7 weeks ago now, still has not come off my credit card, I have sent 6 emails to terry, none of which have been replied to either.

I won't be ordering again, not even sure if this order went through however I do have an order number and printed confirmation page, which I sent to Terry each time, still NO REPLY

:angry:

 

[tonydav]

My order finally turned up last week. Think it was only about 6 weeks for the shipping but I'll have to check. Think it took longer for the order to be processed.

All okay but I doubt I'll be ordering again as in addition to taking forever to get a reply Terry had also agreed more bits to add to my initial order - not done. He'd also said he'd be able to fit the entire order in one box - not the case, hence much more postage . Ont the plus side the kegs all seem fine although a few dents on them.

tony

 

[Weizguy]

FWIW,

A bit off-topic, but relevant to expected delivery times.

I received a consignment ordered from Stone Brewing ... beer glasses and T-shirts. Ordered mid-April , turned up after 8 weeks.



I now have a Ruination IPA shirt and An Arrogant Bastard ale shirt.

Seth out

 

[Doc]

FWIW,

A bit off-topic, but relevant to expected delivery times.

I received a consignment ordered from Stone Brewing ... beer glasses and T-shirts. Ordered mid-April , turned up after 8 weeks.

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I now have a Ruination IPA shirt and An Arrogant Bastard ale shirt.

Seth out

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Nice. You lucky Bastard :lol:
You didn't go for the AB Tap handle though

Doc

 

[warrenlw63]

Nice. You lucky Bastard :lol:
You didn't go for the AB Tap handle though

Doc

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Shouldn't that be Lucky, Arrogant Bastard?

Nice glasses Weiz! :super:

Warren -

 

[mikem108]

2 19l Cornies ordered odered late April, got conformation from Matt 28/4
Arrived today....just as I was lamenting that I might have to get the bottling equipment out to sort out the last couple of batches....phew

 

[deadly]

WOOHOO
4 kegs sitting on the door step when i got home
holding pressure no dents, bit of glue residue nothing i cant clean up
ordered 20.04.05 -sent 29.04.05 -arrived 28.06.05
Thanks :beerbang:

 

[jgriffin]

My kegs turned up yesterday. I paid for the "no dents reco top line" kegs. Guess the dents must be my imagination.

Can't complain though, they are at least as good as the kegs i paid twice as much from from the LHBS last year.

 

[Fish]

Ordered 4 x 5 gallon reconditioned ball lock kegs from Brewers Discount on April 22.

USPS paperwork (despatch date) was April 29.

Arrived June 28 (9-10 weeks delivery).

The customer service from Terry was fine for me. Note - other than the money coming out of my account there were no confirmation, tracking number, etc... however I expected this and was happy to just wait for them to arrive.

The kegs are in good nick (few dings) but more importantly they are perflectly clean inside.

Fish

 

[Lukes]

1. Transit time = best part of 12 weeks.
2. Overall Condition = good considering they are 2nd hand.

Very happy with first order so I placed a second...

What you should have shipped this week matt?

 

[Goat]

My order arrived a day or so ago. 4 10L kegs and a few bits and pieces. shipped on 21/04 - thats about 12 weeks

All but one still holding pressure from the states. All of them have small dents but nothing too bad (the one with the leak has the worst - could be related).

Generally, I'm happy with the service - more contact / confirmation etc would be great, but everything that I ordered turned up in the condition I expected in the time that was estimated. I will order from them again.

 

[pint of lager]

Ordered three of the 3 gal cornies and some bits and pieces on the 21/5/05, despatched on the 27/5/05 and arrived on the 14/7/05.

Very happy with the kegs. They have a few minor dings, but more importantly, they are holding pressure and in good condition.

The web page that I ordered off did not calculate the shipping charges correctly, it showed a very high shipping charge, much more than what others had been paying. In the comments field, I asked for shipping to be at the cheapest rate, which is what was organised. UPS parcel surface. $US40 freight.

Looking forward to using them. Thanks for the service.

 

[sluggerdog]

Ordered three of the 3 gal cornies and some bits and pieces on the 21/5/05, despatched on the 27/5/05 and arrived on the 14/7/05.

Very happy with the kegs. They have a few minor dings, but more importantly, they are holding pressure and in good condition.

The web page that I ordered off did not calculate the shipping charges correctly, it showed a very high shipping charge, much more than what others had been paying. In the comments field, I asked for shipping to be at the cheapest rate, which is what was organised. UPS parcel surface. $US40 freight.

Looking forward to using them. Thanks for the service.

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hmm... now I'm even more pissed off. Made my order on the 8th of May and still nothing... and BD will not reply to my half a dozen emails...

:angry:

Good to hear you got your order POL!

 

[The Scientist]

Wonderful day!
My order from BD arrived mon 12 Sep, good condition and all parts
nicely packed. All up took about 10 week, with no communication in
the mean time. Which worried me a bit, but I'm happy with the end
result so thats all that matters.

The brew gods must have smiled on me that day because I also
recived an order from GMK on the same day.
Excelent craftsmanship on the tap handle by the way GMK.

:beerbang: