go to a greek specialty shop and ask for some bitter orange preserve, its called nerantziSummer Saaz is nothing like Riwaka in any way.
IMO no single hop is a good sub for Riwaka and this is the reason it has become so popular, because it is unique.
Just use Cz Saaz with Cascade and you'll get a pretty similar result.IMO no single hop is a good sub for Riwaka and this is the reason it has become so popular, because it is unique.
Indeed summer saaz is nothing like POR, I'm not sure where that came from......., I don't see a lot of similarities to D saaz there though.A mix of B saaz and "insert C hop here", leaning more towards the B saaz is a pretty good claytons version in my mind though.Just use Cz Saaz with Cascade and you'll get a pretty similar result.
Reason it's so popular is because it's popular. I'd put a hundred on the other"NZ hop line" bred with Cz Saaz being Cascade or Centenial.
But saying Summer Saaz is "nothing like" D Saaz is moronic - Summer Saaz is nothing like PoR. That's a statement.
Summer Saaz is just tamer in the citrus aspect, and leaning more towards the Saaz side.
D Saaz isn't unique. It's pretty damn similar to cascade. And B Saaz.
Um.......no..... actually it is true :beer:
I wonder if all those micros that have run out of Riwaka know they can just sub for Summer Saaz. :blink:
You're right Ross.Beachy, don't waste your time arguing, just be content in the fact that you are correct that Summer Saaz is in no way a substitue for D Saaz (accept maybe as a bittering addition). D saaz is one of my favourite hops & the reason we do not have it available to the public at present, as we need the small stock we have for our commercial brews