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Cocko

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Nierra Sevada

Ale - American Pale Ale
All Grain
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Brewer's Notes

BIAB - 60 minute boil. 0 hops are added to no chill container - mine is my fermenter! HA!

I start with 36L and end with 28L in fermenter.... adjust accordingly!

I have done this brew 4 times and it only gets better... might add a little wheat next time for a little more head retention..

Malt & Fermentables

% KG Fermentable
6.2 kg JWM Traditional Ale Malt
0.6 kg JWM Crystal 140

Hops

Time Grams Variety Form AA
30 g Cascade (Pellet, 5.5AA%, 10mins)
25 g Pearle (Pellet, 8.0AA%, 30mins)
20 g Cascade (Pellet, 5.5AA%, 5mins)
20 g Cascade (Pellet, 5.5AA%, 0mins)
15 g Chinook (Pellet, 13.0AA%, 60mins)

Yeast

12 g DCL Yeast US-05 - American Ale
28L Batch Size

Brew Details

  • Original Gravity 1.054 (calc)
  • Final Gravity 1.013 (calc)
  • Bitterness 38.3 IBU
  • Efficiency 70%
  • Alcohol 5.33%
  • Colour 23 EBC

Fermentation

  • Primary 14 days
  • Conditioning 4 days
 
hey cocko, does this come out crystal sweet? That seems like quite a bit
 
Yeah at 36 ibu i'd want that much crystal in there. I havn't made a cascade apa for some time now, it may be due.

Cheers.
 
Yeah at 36 ibu i'd want that much crystal in there. I havn't made a cascade apa for some time now, it may be due.

Cheers.

Are you implying 36 IBU's is bitter?

Each to their own, but I normally wont go over 5% crystal, and 36 IBU's is probably on the lower scale of my beers.. I might give it a shot tho, it looks pretty quaffable I was just worried about crystal sweetness..

Cheers
 
Are you implying 36 IBU's is bitter?

Each to their own, but I normally wont go over 5% crystal, and 36 IBU's is probably on the lower scale of my beers.. I might give it a shot tho, it looks pretty quaffable I was just worried about crystal sweetness..

Cheers


Yeah i reckon its bitter enough to warrant a bit of resdiual sweetness, most of my beers range between 30-40 as well. But there's other factors as well, like how low you mash the base malt etc drying in order to balance the sweetness from the crystal and what not. I prob wouldn't go over 5% either though. Each to there own, thats the beauty of home brewing!
 
hey cocko, does this come out crystal sweet? That seems like quite a bit

Hey Reviled,

I have been told I have a sweet tooth, so to speak, but this beer is far from over the top.... rave reviews from beer loving mates, 'real beer' lovers - not megaswill drinkers... they don't get given my brews ;)

Give it a go bro, I am sure you will enjoy!

Cheers
 
I love this type of beer Cocko, mine has Magnum instead of Chinook. Apart from that they are pretty much the same brew. You did not mention your mash temp/time? The last one I made I think had caramalt instead of the darker crystal. Definitely an ale to keep on brewing.
 
Hey Reviled,

I have been told I have a sweet tooth, so to speak, but this beer is far from over the top.... rave reviews from beer loving mates, 'real beer' lovers - not megaswill drinkers... they don't get given my brews ;)

Give it a go bro, I am sure you will enjoy!

Cheers

Sweet bro, im probably on the other end of the scale, I love excessively bitter beers, 70odd IBU's etc :rolleyes: but I like to have something quaffable as well, this looks the goods I was just scared to use that much crystal... But ill trust you and give it a crack B) Ill let you know what I think in a few weeks.. Might brew it this wkend actually..
 
Mash temp? 66?

Reckon I can sub the chinook and pearle with super alpha? ive got some US Cascade but no chinook or pearle :(
 
I love this type of beer Cocko, mine has Magnum instead of Chinook. Apart from that they are pretty much the same brew. You did not mention your mash temp/time? The last one I made I think had caramalt instead of the darker crystal. Definitely an ale to keep on brewing.

Sorry, 60 min mash @ 66 deg.

Yep one to keep brewing, this my house ale!

How was the caramalt instead? I have had that exact thought...
 
Maybe you can sub the Chinook but I reckon the Perle is a fair part of the flavour character...

Bugger I was hoping you werent gonna say that <_< Ill try and track some down..
 
Having sampled a few US beers lately I'm convinced that their crystal is different, I've made that recipe that calls for about 6 to 700 gms of crystal and it was just too much, using the locally available products.
 
As mikem108 said, 10% Crystal seems abit much. i'd drop it back to 5-7% at most when using local orweyermann crystal. It needs to be sweet but just enough to be offset by the hops.

I did a SNPA clone back in December, was quite good. Didnt have Mag and Perle on hand so i used Simcoe for Magnum and NB for Perle.
Next one i might also do a big dry hopping in secondary. As I no-chill I will also add the whirlpool hops to the cube @ 70 deg next time.

SNPA
American Pale Ale
Type: All Grain

Traditional Ale (Joe White) 94 %
Caramunich II (Weyermann) (63.0 SRM) 6 %

Simcoe (60 min) 25 IBU
Northern Brewer (30 min) 8 IBU
Cascade (10 min) 5.0 IBU
50.00 gm Cascade [6.30%] (Whirlpool)

1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.2 %
Bitterness: 38 IBU
Est Color: 9.2 SRM

Mash In 66.0 C 75 min
Mash Out 77.0 C 10 min


Cheers! :)
 
Cheers Fourstar,

I will mess around it and try bringing it back from 8.8% to around 6% and see how it goes!

That said I do love it as is and if it ain't broke..


:icon_cheers:
 
That said I do love it as is and if it ain't broke..


:icon_cheers:

I reckon this one would be a good recipe to try some fresh flowers in. Luckily I have some here I prepared earlier!

I once heard - if it ain't broke, do it harder. :D :huh:
 
I reckon this one would be a good recipe to try some fresh flowers in. Luckily I have some here I prepared earlier!

I once heard - if it ain't broke, do it harder.

Fresh home grown flowers :icon_drool2:

I've seen your gallery.... Ok, lets do it like this:

You pick and pack and I will give you my address to send them to?!?


Do it harder!! :lol: - GOLD!
 
hey cocko, does this come out crystal sweet? That seems like quite a bit

See interview with chuck hahn interview in latest BYO mag - he says that JS Amber Ale is 20% crystal. And it isn't overly sweet. 10% in this should be fine.
 

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