RecipeDB - 10 Min IPA

[argon]

Hopefully on Thursday if i get the time, doing a triple batch of this slightly tweaked (90% Ale, 5% Munich I, 5% Special B ). I think it's in the spirit of a 10min IPA though.

Essentially i'll be filling 3 cubes and cube hopping each one with a different variety at more than 2g/L with Amarillo to 80IBU, Cascade to 76IBU then Chinook to 90IBU.

Looking forward to some big aromas!! :icon_drool2:

Edit: upon reflection i won't get any brew day aromas cause they'll be all in th cubes...

 

[Effect]

I did exactly that argon before I got my chiller. I did 2 g/l of green bullet in one cube and 2 g/l of Nelson sauvin in the other. That was the only addition that I did and the beer turned out rather malty and no where near enough bitterness. If I were to do it again I would go a lot more hops. 6 g/l at the minimum.

Cheers
Phil

 

[Bizier]

I have tried doing a similar thing, with loads (100s of grams) of cube hops, and perhaps I left it too long on the hops before pitching, but it had a lot of hop vegetal characteristics, which I did not enjoy. I suggest that if you do this @ 6g/L, you should consider (if you haven't already) the large hop trub loss you will have and fill the cube as full as you can, and pitch it absolutely as soon as you can. ED: read that you moved to chiller. I am doing the same. I will keep my advice there for anyone contemplating large cube additions.

 

[Bizier]

I had an idea the other day that is kind of on-topic. I was thinking of doing a triple batch of standard wort, and boiling, then cubing this without any hops. Then you can just grab a cube, and do a 10 min IPA style recipe with one kind of hop, and chill and ferment when you are ready. This allows easy separate brew sessions (vitalstats mentioned easy mid-week brewing), it allows you a standardised wort, and should be good for observing hop differences.

 

[argon]

I did exactly that argon before I got my chiller. I did 2 g/l of green bullet in one cube and 2 g/l of Nelson sauvin in the other. That was the only addition that I did and the beer turned out rather malty and no where near enough bitterness. If I were to do it again I would go a lot more hops. 6 g/l at the minimum.

Cheers
Phil

yeah can't remember exactly what the g/L are but i calculated the IBUs based on a 10 min addition which seems about right... thanks for the tip though... i'll be throwing heaps in there for sure. :icon_cheers:

 

[husky]

Looking for some 10min IPA recipe advice. I have 300g fresh POR flowers just dried out so looking to utilise them while theyre fresh.
Was thinking:
100% Munich1 to 1.060 (6kg for 24L at 75% efficiency)
100% Fresh POR flowers @10 to 60IBU (250g assuming around 8.3%AA)
US05 (would like to do with coopers culture but wont have any in time)

Since I no chill I will make the wort up unhopped. No chill all but 7 or so litres which I will save for the following day to do a seperate boil with the hops. Add the hopped wort to the chilled wort straight away to get a genuine 10 minute hop boil.
Question is, shoild I up the hops since most chiller breweres will have their hopped wort at near boiling for closer to 20 minutes even though its calculated as a 10 min addition?

My recipe theory is that the 100% munich will leave more body than an ale using US05 which tends to strip alot of maltyness i feel. Hopefully it leaves alot of the hops aroma though.

Thoughts?

 

[Sammus]

OK so it doesn't quite fit into this category, but I think close enough...

A couple weeks ago I did 100% bopils malt, 100g saaz at 10min and 50g dry hopped. since the saaz is so low alpha and I didn't have enough to bitter it up a bit, I chucked in a teensy bit of tett at 60min to get the IBUs up to 40. Mashed at 62, it went from 1.060 to 1.006 with US05 at 17C.

Turned out a cracker of a beer. Didn't know what saaz tasted like till now :icon_cheers:

 

[hazard]

Sorry if this has been asked before but - if the hops are only boiled for 10 min, then does this only need a total 10 min boil? Of course you would need to correct your sparge volume to account for less evaporation, but would this save 50 min off the brew day?

 

[husky]

Sorry if this has been asked before but - if the hops are only boiled for 10 min, then does this only need a total 10 min boil? Of course you would need to correct your sparge volume to account for less evaporation, but would this save 50 min off the brew day?

Still need the 60 or 90 boil, what ever you usually use, just add hops in the last ten.

 

[j1gsaw]

I have heap of assorted left over hops in the freezer im thinking about chewing up to get rid of in this style or similiar.
How does this sound:

3.5kg MO
250g Rye
100g Caararoma

I have left: 60g EKG,
72g Green bullet
20g B Saaz
45g Fugg
29g progress
37g tett
30g NS
18g Czech saaz
28g citra
45g POR

Im just wondering if i bomb the lot into the boil at 10min, are there too many bittering hops in that list? will it be over the top?

 

[hazard]

Still need the 60 or 90 boil, what ever you usually use, just add hops in the last ten.

Thanks, but can you please explain what the purpose of 60 min or 90 min boil is, if hops are only bolied for 10 min?

 

[Guysmiley54]

Thanks, but can you please explain what the purpose of 60 min or 90 min boil is, if hops are only bolied for 10 min?

To steralize the wort and depending on your sparge water to evaporate to desired OG. There may be other chemical reasons too, but I don't really know!!

 

[big78sam]

Thanks, but can you please explain what the purpose of 60 min or 90 min boil is, if hops are only bolied for 10 min?

Some interesting reading here

http://www.beoir.org/index.php?option=com_...s&Itemid=62

 

[hazard]

Some interesting reading here

http://www.beoir.org/index.php?option=com_...s&Itemid=62

OK so according to this article, the reasons for the boil are:
1. Alpha Acid Isomerisation - 10 min is sufficient for a 10 min IPA
2. Colloidal Stability - seems to indicate that longer is better
3. Wort Sterilisation - 10 min is sufficient I think
4. Enzyme inactivation - 10 min should be sufficeint
5. Volatile removal - if brewing with pilsener malt this may be an issue, but less so for ale malt.
6. Colour and flavour addition - this can be achieved with the right specialty malts

And the other reason given by GuySmiley - to reach appropriate FV and OG. But you should be able to manage this by reducing sparge water.

I may be crazy, I'm just trying to find a way to reduce the brew day, there seems to be an automatic repsonse that an hour boil is always require, but apart from risk of cloudy beer (Point 2 above) I cant see good reasons, in the context of a 10 min IPA. Or am i just being crazy?

 

[Acasta]

Im about to add 370g of cascade hops to one of these bad boys. Its a single batch so im expecting this thing to be insane. The cascade is about 4.5% so this large amount will only give me about 60IBUs.

 

[MitchDudarko]

I'm teetering on the edge of doing an all Galaxy version of this. But there's been a bit of conversation (fear-mongering?) about Galaxy flavour being over the top.

Recipe: 10 Min Galaxy IPA
Brewer: Mitch Dudarko
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 26.33 L
Estimated OG: 1.067 SG
Estimated Color: 23.5 EBC
Estimated IBU: 63.9 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.20 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 95.09 %
0.32 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (236.4 EBC) Grain 4.91 %
140.00 gm Galaxy [13.60 %] (10 min) Hops 63.9 IBU


Thoughts? Ideas? Opinions?

Cheers,
Mitch

 

[Acasta]

I wouldn't worry about it, galaxy is a pretty amazing hop. I've recently brewed a 100% galaxy ale and it was damn good. It only had about 85g of galaxy as it was spaced over 30 min combining to 30IBUs. Dive in and brew it up, i think ill follow suit and do galaxy as my next 10min IPA

 

[Effect]

Oh I am getting so thirsty. 28 days of no alcohol is killing me.

Both of those recipes look killer. I know you are both going to enjoy them. Have tasted both a 10 min galaxy and 10 min cascade IPA and they were fantastic.

Makes me want to brew a cascade AND galaxy 10 min IPA...

 

[JulieRush]

I'm still new to trying to work out what it is about beer that I like.

Put down one of these as per the original recipe but did a 10l batch (just in case). 2 weeks in primary at around 15 degrees with US-05. Bottled it last saturday morning.

Again (as usual!) I succumbed to temptation and cracked one after only 4 days in the bottle.

all I can say is "holy ****!"

I'm finding the big hoppy beers are right up my street. I notice the recipe says something like "not for the faint-hearted" and that's an understatement. Used Amarillo pellets at 10 mins. I think in the 10l batch it worked out at about 85g but this brew's really good.

Will definately be making more of these, and I'm keen to try different hops in the mix too. I'll have a lookie and see if anyone's bombed a load of Nelson Sauvin in there... I've got about 80g of those in the fridge begging to be used.

Definately a big +1 from me on the recipe and the concept though. Will definately brew this again!

cheers!

*hic*burp*

 

[AussieJosh]

OK so according to this article, the reasons for the boil are:
1. Alpha Acid Isomerisation - 10 min is sufficient for a 10 min IPA
2. Colloidal Stability - seems to indicate that longer is better
3. Wort Sterilisation - 10 min is sufficient I think
4. Enzyme inactivation - 10 min should be sufficeint
5. Volatile removal - if brewing with pilsener malt this may be an issue, but less so for ale malt.
6. Colour and flavour addition - this can be achieved with the right specialty malts

And the other reason given by GuySmiley - to reach appropriate FV and OG. But you should be able to manage this by reducing sparge water.

I may be crazy, I'm just trying to find a way to reduce the brew day, there seems to be an automatic repsonse that an hour boil is always require, but apart from risk of cloudy beer (Point 2 above) I cant see good reasons, in the context of a 10 min IPA. Or am i just being crazy?

I was thinking the exact same thing!
im looking at doing a 10 min IPA in the near future and if i can reduce the boil time by 50 mins that would be sweet!