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I'm looking for that type of manifold to integrate with the rest of my K-Lok / snaplok / etc system, but no worries I can get them elsewhere.

To be honest I'm more interested in whether a tri-clamp adapter for the Fermzilla base is coming or not? Now that the blue team's G3 with TC adapter is out my Fermzilla is sitting idle. If it's not coming that's fine - I'll pass my unit on to the next brewer, but I'd prefer to keep it and use it.


This has been half manufactured so far. We have already started to manufacture the 2 inch tri-clover dump valve lid for the collection container but sill working on the tooling on the underside of the butterfly valve. These things do take some time to get right. As you can imagine we have a lot of other stuff that is also in development at the moment as well but the wheels are moving on this.
 
@KegLand-com-au FYI just in case it was overlooked.

Yes you still need to raise the table manually. Once you raise the table the machine itself can seam the can in 3 seconds. All of this will be explained in the video that we will probably release in the next week or so. So if you keep an eye on this space we should have more detailed information on this very soon.
 
This has been half manufactured so far. We have already started to manufacture the 2 inch tri-clover dump valve lid for the collection container but sill working on the tooling on the underside of the butterfly valve. These things do take some time to get right. As you can imagine we have a lot of other stuff that is also in development at the moment as well but the wheels are moving on this.
OK, thanks for the response, I certainly understand having other priorities but I'm just trying to plan out my own systems as to whether they're likely to proceed or not, less concerned about timing. So at this stage you're not planning on producing a tri clamp adapter directly off the base of the cone, to use with generic tri clamp valves?

As an example, this is basically exactly what I'd like to replicate off the bottom of my Fermzilla:
IMG-20200201-113939.jpg
 
Shipping price for this is nuts - not quite so much for me but still more than the Robo65L which was only $18... does it have a 2m telescopic pole or something?

No "in stock" email either (again)
@KegLand-com-au are you able to do something to make the Bucket Blaster shipping less ridiculously priced? E.g. is there a mistake in the shipping dimensions?
 
@KegLand-com-au are you able to do something to make the Bucket Blaster shipping less ridiculously priced? E.g. is there a mistake in the shipping dimensions?

@KegLand-com-au I think there is an error with the shipping calculator for the bucket blaster. Mine arrived today, it is 300x300x360mm (LxWxD) it weights 3.3kg. I was charged a much higher amount than usual even though it is smaller and weights less than all my previous grain orders.
 
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@KegLand-com-au I think there is an error with the shipping calculator for the bucket blaster. Mine arrived today, it is 300x300x3600mm (LxWxD) it weights 3.3kg. I was charged a much higher amount than usual even though it is smaller and weights less than all my previous grain orders.

Is the 3600mm I highlighted the issue maybe?
 
@KegLand-com-au I think there is an error with the shipping calculator for the bucket blaster. Mine arrived today, it is 300x300x360mm (LxWxD) it weights 3.3kg. I was charged a much higher amount than usual even though it is smaller and weights less than all my previous grain orders.

The bucket blaster is 3.3kg however we are charged in the industry on what is called a 333 cubic rate. So we are charged 333kg per cubic meter of space. So if the products are bulky (which mos of ours are) we are generally charged the cubic size not the dead weight. So the Bucket Blaster is actually 11kg as far as our freight providers are concerned.
 
@KegLand-com-au are you able to do something to make the Bucket Blaster shipping less ridiculously priced? E.g. is there a mistake in the shipping dimensions?

Yes this has been fixed up now. I think the cubic size was too high so it was being charged at 20kg previously but this has been amended.
 
OK, thanks for the response, I certainly understand having other priorities but I'm just trying to plan out my own systems as to whether they're likely to proceed or not, less concerned about timing. So at this stage you're not planning on producing a tri clamp adapter directly off the base of the cone, to use with generic tri clamp valves?

As an example, this is basically exactly what I'd like to replicate off the bottom of my Fermzilla:
IMG-20200201-113939.jpg

Meddo
Is that on the bottom of a g3 ? And if so is that valve large enough diameter to dump hop crud or just yeast and trub ?
 
Meddo
Is that on the bottom of a g3 ? And if so is that valve large enough diameter to dump hop crud or just yeast and trub ?
Yes it's a G3. I don't often brew dry hopped beers any more so not sure, but I suspect so under pressure. That valve is 3/4", I have plenty of larger reducers and valves though so will likely use something slightly bigger when I do next brew a dry hopped beer.
 
Yes it's a G3. I don't often brew dry hopped beers any more so not sure, but I suspect so under pressure. That valve is 3/4", I have plenty of larger reducers and valves though so will likely use something slightly bigger when I do next brew a dry hopped beer.

Cheers meddo [emoji106]
 
The bucket blaster is 3.3kg however we are charged in the industry on what is called a 333 cubic rate. So we are charged 333kg per cubic meter of space. So if the products are bulky (which mos of ours are) we are generally charged the cubic size not the dead weight. So the Bucket Blaster is actually 11kg as far as our freight providers are concerned.
Interesting. Even after you revised the dimensions, it's still more to ship than the Robo65 was with another 50 small items!

I'll hold off until I need a few more things so the delivery cost isn't so significant.
 
With a ymmv caveat, as the Maltzilla has got larger rollers than a conventional mill and diamond coating, how wide should the gap be set? Say just for pale malt as a start.

Still waiting on mine to come from Melbourne and starting to plan, please note that the waiting is not Kegland’s fault, someone has picked it up for me and is sending with other gear.
 
Interesting. Even after you revised the dimensions, it's still more to ship than the Robo65 was with another 50 small items!

I'll hold off until I need a few more things so the delivery cost isn't so significant.

Looks like that was a different issue. The shipping weight for the BrewZilla 65L was too low and we have fixed this up now too. So sorry to say the BrewZilla 65L is a bit more expensive now to ship.
 
With a ymmv caveat, as the Maltzilla has got larger rollers than a conventional mill and diamond coating, how wide should the gap be set? Say just for pale malt as a start.

Still waiting on mine to come from Melbourne and starting to plan, please note that the waiting is not Kegland’s fault, someone has picked it up for me and is sending with other gear.

The gap setting can be set similar to a normal mill or slightly more open. A credit card width seems to work well as a gap measure. With that said even with a slightly larger gap setting l works well as the grain is getting sheered open so it's no so dependent on the gap but rather ensuring that the rollers just come in contact with the outside of the grain.

Normally for a traditional mill the rollers rely on squishing the grain through a orifice to get the right grist. With the MaltZilla it "rubs" the side of the grain causing the husk to come off. It's a different action that gives you a better grist with the husks more intact.
 
The gap setting can be set similar to a normal mill or slightly more open. A credit card width seems to work well as a gap measure. With that said even with a slightly larger gap setting l works well as the grain is getting sheered open so it's no so dependent on the gap but rather ensuring that the rollers just come in contact with the outside of the grain.

Normally for a traditional mill the rollers rely on squishing the grain through a orifice to get the right grist. With the MaltZilla it "rubs" the side of the grain causing the husk to come off. It's a different action that gives you a better grist with the husks more intact.

Thank you.
 
Ok so with my experience running two soda water kegs simultaneously for the past 5+ years, one chilling and carbing while the other one drinking, it takes about 48hrs at 30psi to be suitably fizzy. This is heavily dependent on adequate headspace in the keg e.g. 2L or so. The more headspace the quicker it will work. (No carb stone on this setup).

I've installed the carb reactor and been running it for about 5 days.

We normally drink about 10L a day. I've had to increase the pressure to 45psi and turn down the temperature of my kegerator to cope with the addition of ambient water to our drinking keg (28c).

The benefit of this system is that I only have room for 4x kegs in my kegerator and two of these were previously soda water, so I don't have room for a pre-chilling keg, although I thought with one of the PET tee-pieces e.g.
PCO 1881 CARBONATION CAP TEE PIECE https://www.kegland.com.au/pco-1881-carbonation-cap-tee-piece.html
one could use a small vessel with a larger surface area to volume ratio as a daisy-chained pre-chilling vessel prior to the keg. This was my next step if pressure increase to account for less carbonation time didn't work.


Dear @KegLand-com-au Is this product still avaialable? I dont find to buy ..im´m fro Brazil and I buy in the site aliexpress. PCO 1881 CARBONATION CAP TEE PIECE https://www.kegland.com.au/pco-1881-carbonation-cap-tee-piece.html
 
hey @KegLand-com-au any thoughts on grain conditioning with your mill? I know you would generally tighten the gap if you condition - is this still the case or something your team have worked on during brew days and have you found any efficiency gains?
 
Dear @KegLand-com-au Is this product still avaialable? I dont find to buy ..im´m fro Brazil and I buy in the site aliexpress. PCO 1881 CARBONATION CAP TEE PIECE https://www.kegland.com.au/pco-1881-carbonation-cap-tee-piece.html

Yes absolutely. This is a new popular part so it's definitely available. Rather than order from China you can go to your local distributor in Brazil:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...ll=-16.861937061558105,-64.71270352436102&z=4
 
Can you post a picture of the superior crush?

No worries. That's a fair point. You can see the testing results below.

We have lots of photos showing various different test results. It's difficult to draw direct comparison between one mill and another as if you set the gap distance on one mill this doesnt necessarily give the best results in another mill. So the optimal gap will vary depending on the mill design and roller surface. With that said these test were done with similar gap setting.

When we varied the gap setting we got similar relative results to each other.

1. If you look at the glass on the left this is clearly not milled grain.
2. The middle glass is grain that has gone through a 3 roller grain mill
3. The glass on the right is the grain that has gone through the MaltZilla mill
This particular test we were measuring the volumetric difference in the grist. So more volume is generally considered to be better and this is probably due to the fact that the husks were more intact.

In terms of the amount of powder that was generated it was maybe slightly less in the MaltZilla but not a very big difference. All grains in both instances were fully cracked open. The 3 Roller Mill had many more of the grains and husk were fully chopped in half whereby the grist from the maltzill had the husk intact but the contents had been ejected from the husk.
MaltZilla%20Testing%20102%20Volumetric.jpg


If you look at the results below in the bags we did further testing with moisture added. We added 2% moisture (by weight) and in our testing this gave the best results in both instances and I would definitely recommend this practice for anyone milling their own grain. Adding moisture was done with a misting device while stirring the grain. Then we left the grain for about 6 hrs for the moisture to become even throughout the grist.

When wet milling and adding moisture I should say that most mills are also not particularly suited to this as the majority of rollers out there are made from steel and if you regularly add moisture to your grains then it's likely that steel rollers will develop rust on them unless you clean and oil them after each use but this is quite tedious. Both the Standard MaltZilla and Premium MaltZilla made from Diamond coated stainless for this reason.

As you can see from the results below we had the grist on the left with more favourable results whereby the husk was more intact and had not been "chopped" up as much by the knurling.
MaltZilla%20Testing%2062.jpg


From out testing surface friction on a roller surface is far more effective at drawing grain and producing a good grist rather than aggressive knurling and also the diamonds have far longer lasting friction than the knurling that goes blunt over time.

Knurling for a long time has been the standard probably because knurling is a less expensive process and is quite easy to do and probably because we didn't know any better. For decades we have just made similar knurled rollers probably just because the first guy did it and nobody has thought to experiment with alternatives. It's definitely been enjoyable working on this project and challenging this long standing tradition of mill manufacture.

The long lasting surface friction developed by diamond coating is sufficient to eliminate the need for 3 roller mills and geared rollers.
 
hey @KegLand-com-au any thoughts on grain conditioning with your mill? I know you would generally tighten the gap if you condition - is this still the case or something your team have worked on during brew days and have you found any efficiency gains?

Yes we would 100% recommend conditioning grain. We had excellent results with 2% water. Results can be seen in images above. We did not find the need to tighten gap with conditioned grain but this was not the objective for our experiments. We primarily were looking at comparative results between traditional 3 roller mill and the MaltZilla.
 
Love that info/pics about the malt.

Do you think husks being intact (or the different malt crush in general) makes any difference for BIAB?
 
@KegLand-com-au

Hey Kee, that mini reg looks pretty neat, do you have an on-sale ETA? Got a camping trip two weeks from today - any chance of grabbing one before then?

Also, was my interpretation of your comment a couple of days ago correct - that you're not currently working on a simple tri-clamp adapter for the Fermzilla cone for use with third-party tri-clamp valves?

Thank you,
 
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