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What is Halal slaughter in Australia?





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[SIZE=small]Halal describes what is lawful for Muslims to eat. Halal food laws are based on interpretation of the Quran, the Muslim scripture, and set out the range of beverages and foods (including meat) that are acceptable for Muslims to eat. The procedures for Halal slaughter can vary from place to place because of the differing interpretations of the Quran: this article describes Halal slaughter in Australia.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=small]The main concern with halal slaughter is whether or not pre-slaughter stunning is used. In Australia, the national standard[/SIZE][SIZE=small] for meat production requires that all animals must be effectively stunned (unconscious) prior to slaughter. The vast majority of halal slaughter in Australia (included at export abattoirs) complies with this standard, that is, all animals are stunned prior to slaughter. The only difference is that a reversible stunning method is used, while conventional humane slaughter may use an irreversible stunning method. The time to regain consciousness following a reversible stun may vary depending on the intensity of the stun. At Australian abattoirs, the aim is to ensure that reversible stunning is done in a way that depth of unconsciousness is sufficient to allow for the animal to bleed out and die before there is a chance of regaining consciousness.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]Halal slaughter in overseas abattoirs often does not include stunning - this is the key difference between halal slaughter in Australia and many other countries. Although reversible stunning is far better from an animal welfare perspective than no stunning at all, irreversible stunning is more effective in inducing unconsciousness than reversible stunning and is therefore the preferred method.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]Exemptions from pre-slaughter stunning requirements[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]There are a small number of abattoirs in Australia that have been granted permission from the relevant State or Territory food authority to conduct religious slaughter without prior stunning – for either Halal or Kosher (Jewish slaughter) purposes. These ‘approvals’ are effectively exemptions to standard Australian slaughter practice. The proportion of animals slaughtered under these exemptions is very small, but nevertheless that any animals are slaughtered without stunning is of concern to the RSPCA.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]For cattle and sheep, the requirements for religious slaughter without prior stunning are set out in a nationally adopted guideline Ritual Slaughter for Ovine (Sheep) and Bovine (Cattle):[/SIZE]

• [SIZE=small]For cattle, stunning is still required but this occurs immediately after the throat is cut. Two separate slaughtermen must be present: one to perform the cut (which must sever both the carotid arteries and jugular veins) and one to perform the stunning.[/SIZE]
• [SIZE=small]For sheep, stunning is not required except where the animal is distressed or does not rapidly lose consciousness, in which case they must be immediately stunned.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=small]T[/SIZE][SIZE=small]he requirements for cattle and sheep are different because cattle take longer than sheep to lose consciousness as they have an extra blood supply to the brain at the back of the neck running along the vertebrae.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]All Halal slaughter of chickens in Australia includes prior stunning.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]The RSPCA is concerned there are much greater risks of an animal suffering during slaughter without stunning than for conventional slaughter. Slaughtering an animal while fully conscious requires additional handling and restraint and means that the animal will experience pain associated with the throat cut and subsequent bleeding out. For these reasons, the RSPCA is strongly opposed to all forms of slaughter that do not involve prior stunning of the animal.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]What you can do to help[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]It is the state/territory food authority that provides abattoirs with special permission to conduct religious slaughter without prior stunning. If you are opposed to slaughter without prior stunning, please contact your state/territory Minister for Agriculture to make your views known.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]For further information see:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]Model Code of Practice for the Welfare of Animals: Livestock at Slaughtering Establishments
Australian Standard for the Hygienic Production and Transportation of Meat and Meat Products for Human Consumption[/SIZE]

 

[spog]

Whoa, boat people in reverse, I could go a pint or twelve of cask ale right now.......

 

[JasonP]

Can I buy any of you ***** a drink?

 

[manticle]

Quite recently I read on a thread that someone said they hate fat people because they put a strain on the medical system, I wonder where the bigot police were then, or do they believe that bigotry is only associated with religion or race?

Plenty of people are anti anti-fat.
If you're comparing comments on first world obesity with deep seated long term hateful prejudices like anti semitism, homophobia or genuine racism though, you've got a pretty weak argument. Homosexuals burnt at stakes, africans sold into slavery, aboriginals massacred or robbed of their own children, jews interred in labour and death camps and overweight people featured on a slightly humiliating reality tv show.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Not a weak argument, bigotry covers everything, thin people, fat people, ugly people, disabled people or any category in which a group may be vilified it isn't just about race, religion or homosexuals.

 

[Eagleburger]

Plenty of people are anti anti-fat.
If you're comparing comments on first world obesity with deep seated long term hateful prejudices like anti semitism, homophobia or genuine racism though, you've got a pretty weak argument. Homosexuals burnt at stakes, africans sold into slavery, aboriginals massacred or robbed of their own children, jews interred in labour and death camps and overweight people featured on a slightly humiliating reality tv show.

Dont want to extinguish your anger, but most of those examples you cite are the result of greed and power rather than prejudice.

 

[Eagleburger]

not to mention, cliche.

 

[roastinrich]

Arguing with someone over Halal is like arguing with a VB drinker that homebrew is good.

That is so serendipitous cos it was only today I was conversing with a sales rep from Balmain and Hawthorne Brewing during a tasting in BWS that his biggest challenge were "VB" drinkers who said that the beer (Balmain, Hawthorne, Arctic Monkey) "tastes like sh!t". I guess it's synonymous with intellectually and/or culturally challenged consumers. On a side note- this is a good thread idea for drawing out any religious or political views or opinions into discussion whether argumentative or constructive.

 

[mje1980]

I tried Balmain pale ale and thought it was pretty average

 

[S.E]

I lived near a halal butcher and his lamb chops were exceptionally tasty. Always covered in bone fragments though, even after a thorough wash I was chewing bits of bone.

 

[manticle]

Dont want to extinguish your anger, but most of those examples you cite are the result of greed and power rather than prejudice.

Prejudices are often used to drive and maintain greed and power. There's nothing that says they can't and don't often coexist. What's the cliche bit?

 

[dicko]

I could not really be bothered reading all 15 pages so I hope no one else has posted this pic.

 

[goomboogo]

I could not really be bothered reading all 15 pages so I hope no one else has posted this pic.

I still wish no one had posted it. If you're being ironic, I apologise for missing the joke.

 

[justatad]

Thats one muther of a roo Dicko, give him a bandanna and a machine gun an call him rambo.

 

[manticle]

Not a weak argument, bigotry covers everything, thin people, fat people, ugly people, disabled people or any category in which a group may be vilified it isn't just about race, religion or homosexuals.

Of course it covers everything. Just not sure who the bigot police are or what obesity has to do with halal.

Furthermore, the effect of different prejudices (and their history) does make some reasonable distinctions. Someone could be bigoted against you because you drive a Mercedes or ride a bike but the real effect in terms of historical wrongs doesn't compare to some of the earlier, (supposedly cliched) examples I gave.

People of privilege are always the first to cry foul when someone is mean to them yet whinge about their right to use racist, sexist whatever ephitets they please whenever they please. Hurt feelings reports for all.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

What if you hate people equally,,,?

 

[manticle]

That's totally fine. They probably deserve it.

 

[technobabble66]

What if you hate people equally,,,?

Hatist !!


... not to be confused with a Hattist ... h34r:

 

[dicko]

Thats one muther of a roo Dicko, give him a bandanna and a machine gun an call him rambo.

He has definitely been workin' out. :lol:

 

[dicko]

I still wish no one had posted it. If you're being ironic, I apologise for missing the joke.

Apology accepted goomboogo.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

The obesity thing is, on this site within the last fortnight a blatant bigoted remark was made about obese people, not one finger pointed or call made about a bigoted remark, so do the bigot police (the ones on this site who want to point a finger and call bigot) think that bigotry only counts if it is against race or religion.
In these posts no one has made any bigotry remarks, if someone has said they won't buy a product if they believe that the said product is certified halal because of their concerns that any money made by the certification could go to towards promoting Sharia law, rightly or wrongly, as no one can prove either way where any profits go.
For myself I don't care whether something is kosher or halal as long as its edible, excepting the halal laundry powder which I have noticed in our laundry and in saying this I do not support Sharia law just in case the money does go to promoting it.

 

[manticle]

Maybe the bigotry police missed it. I reckon I did.

I agree bigotry takes many forms and none are justifiable on principle. My point, if I could put it crudely though is that there is still a vast difference between calling someone a skip or a pom and calling someone a ****** or a wog and that is due to relative privilege and historical context.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Terms/sayings/names change over time. You never hear the word ****** used anymore, to the point that to the younger generation they wouldnt even know what the word meant. Same as the word gay, used to mean having a happy & fun time, now associated with people of homosexual persuasion, having a happy & fun time

 

[wide eyed and legless]

I agree with you there manticle, I don't care what anyone calls me, remember the old adage,'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' but labeling someone that is unknown to that person a bigot because they have taken a misguided point of view of what was said is something equally as bad as being a bigot. The only bigoted views that a blind eye can be turned at are those against Collingwood

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I agree with you there manticle, I don't care what anyone calls me, remember the old adage,'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' but labeling someone that is unknown to that person a bigot because they have taken a misguided point of view of what was said is something equally as bad as being a bigot. The only bigoted views that a blind eye can be turned at are those against Manly

FTFY

 

[wereprawn]

I agree with you there manticle, I don't care what anyone calls me, remember the old adage,'Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me' but labeling someone that is unknown to that person a bigot because they have taken a misguided point of view of what was said is something equally as bad as being a bigot. The only bigoted views that a blind eye can be turned at are those against Collingwood

Yep.Bigoted against people who may or may not be bigots. Should be against all bigotry though eh? :lol:

 

[NewtownClown]

Air and Water are Halal.
Would all the religious bigots please desist the consumption of these two products, thank-you

 

[wide eyed and legless]

That reminds me of an argument on a pommie boxing site, the number of times **** was mentioned by one poster was hilarious, I wish I could remember it all but the ending went like this.
'You're nothing but a twatting ****, you ****' :lol:

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2014/11/11/man-dehydrates-after-discovering-water-halal-certified

 

[Killer Brew]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/fact-check-does-halal-certification-fund-terrorism/6383238