Is coopers halal?

[stehowardtlr]

Are coopers malt products halal?

 

[verysupple]

You are joking, right?

 

[Beak]

My coopers canned brew occasionally blow up!!

 

[stehowardtlr]

I know, hope this isn't true.

 

[kaiserben]

April fool's day is 8 days away.

 

[slcmorro]

You realise no products that contain alcohol even in the slightest amount is halal, right?

 

[manticle]

Yes. It's bacon free. Who gives a ****? If it was kosher, would you care?
Rubbish meaningless scare campaign. Drink it cos you like it, leave it if you don't.

 

[stehowardtlr]

Its coopers malt products that seem to be halal. Malt on its own isnt alcohol. Very dodgy.

 

[pyrosx]

We're all now dumber for having read that

 

[stehowardtlr]

Why?

 

[supertonio]

What, like how you get slaughtered by coopers beer?

 

[peas_and_corn]

Wow, and it's valid all the way until 2005!

 

[manticle]

Its coopers malt products that seem to be halal. Malt on its own isnt alcohol. Very dodgy.

What's dodgy? What do you think halal actually is?

 

[luggy]

Seriously f***king stupid that is.
a. Who cares
b. It's Propaganda espoused by nationalistic bigots.

Never mind that coopers is the last wholly owned major Australian brewery

 

[Blind Dog]

who gives a fcuk if it is halal? I struggling to see any relevance to anything at all

 

[Liam_snorkel]

coopers make malt extracts that go on to be used in food products all over the world, why the **** wouldn't they get the rubber stamp? It'd close them off to markets where their products may be used as an ingredient in halal food.

did you know our government subsidises every major religion by way of tax breaks? by being Australian you're supporting islam. suck ****.

do you eat weet-bix, even though (I'm assuming) you're not a seventh-day adventist?

 

[Dan Dan]

Anything that tells me to buy Boags instead of Coopers deserves ridicule, as far as I am concerned.

 

[wereprawn]

Wow. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to fund Islam through the halal certification. Poor Op gets flayed for asking a simple question.

 

[kaiserben]

Its coopers malt products that seem to be halal. Malt on its own isnt alcohol. Very dodgy.

The dodgiest thing here is that ridiculous image saying "as far as we know [Boags] do not use Halal certified". As far as we know? Top notch research by whatever bigoted clown originally wrote this.

Tomorrow night I'm going to make sure to grab dinner from my favourite restaurant (which is Halal certified and run by Muslims *gasp*, but who gives a stuff?)

Wow. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to fund Islam through the halal certification. Poor Op gets flayed for asking a simple question.

Maybe because it doesn't fund Islam.

 

[superstock]

Maybe because it doesn't fund Islam.


Checkout who issues the halal certificate and where the payment for the certificate goes

 

[Liam_snorkel]

ok:

How are the funds from halal certification used?
The service fees paid to Halal Australia for halal certification and accreditation are used to maintain the normal costs of running a registered business in Australia. These include overhead costs such as utilities, rent, inventory and supplies, and employee salaries, as well as income taxes paid to the Australian government. Inspection fees also include auditing services, which are undertaken to maintain quality control of the premises and products and which cover standard expenses such as service, transportation and travel time.

Halal Australia is proud to be an Australian business and in accordance with the Australian Government’s values statement has always undertaken to respect the values of Australian society and obey its laws. Halal certification profits DO NOT go towards supporting any terrorist activities or violent politically motivated religious organisations. Nor do we have anything to do with any organisation or group anywhere in the world that incites violence and are not aligned with our values of freedom, egalitarianism, equality of opportunity, and mutual respect and tolerance.

http://www.halal-australia.com.au/clarifying-misconceptions-about-halal/

 

[kaiserben]

Checkout who issues the halal certificate and where the payment for the certificate goes

Yes, I have, which is why I said that Halal Certification does not fund Islam. My source is reputable, and not some random internet image made in MS Paint by some bigoted fool.

 

[manticle]

If you can't cope with halal certification, don't buy the product. While you're not buying it, do some research into what it is. There are far worse backings behind commercial products than that.

I guess if you equate Islam with IS because they share letters of the alphabet, then critical thinking is neither a talent nor an aspiration. You buy boags liquid malt next time you're brewing.

 

[manticle]

Wow. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to fund Islam through the halal certification. Poor Op gets flayed for asking a simple question.

I have some non halal tissues for you both. Will post at my expense.

 

[nosco]

I was under the impression that Halal in regards to food only relates to meat and alcohol so unless Coopers are putting pigs blood in malt extract then it's pure BS.

 

[wereprawn]

ok:


http://www.halal-australia.com.au/clarifying-misconceptions-about-halal/

Hmm....If that is the case, why have some some Australian certifiers become so wealthy by running these businesses. Is it fair, in your opinion, that the costs of certification for products sold domestically, are passed on to consumers, whom the vast majority of are not Muslim? Almost all of these products are naturally halal anyway and require no "certification" for muslims to consume. Did you know that Australian muslims still ate food before halal certification in Australia?

Edit- And why don't most certified products even carry a halal logo.?Would think it would be displayed so muslims could be informed and buy those products. I understand why many people consider halal certification dodgy.

 

[kaiserben]

Hmm....If that is the case, why have some some Australian certifiers become so wealthy by running these businesses. Is it fair, in your opinion, that the costs of certification for products sold domestically, are passed on to consumers, whom the vast majority of are not Muslim? Almost all of these products are naturally halal anyway and require no "certification" for muslims to consume. Did you know that Australian muslims still ate food before halal certification in Australia?

Edit- And why don't most certified products even carry a halal logo.?Would think it would be displayed so muslims could be informed and buy those products. I understand why many people consider halal certification dodgy.

Who has become wealthy exactly? Did you see this on A Current Affair in between segments about dole bludgers and illegal immigrant boat people stealing jobs from true blue Aussie war veterans?
From that same website under the very next heading:

EDIT (inserted link)
http://www.halal-australia.com.au/clarifying-misconceptions-about-halal/

Are Australian consumers who purchase halal certified goods paying a “Islamic” religious tax?

Consumers should be made aware that statements such as these are sensationalist rumours designed to incite fear amongst Australian consumers. Such statements are misleading and unequivocally incorrect.


Halal Australia has no power to enforce any tax, religious or otherwise, on the citizens of Australia under any circumstances. Companies that seek halal certification pay a flat fee that covers the cost of site accreditation and product certification and periodic audits as needed. These fees are in line with those that companies pay to have other elements of their business certified and audited each year to help meet the requirements of other dietary needs, such as organic, vegetarian and kosher, or to ensure compliance from a quality assurance (QMS) and food safety (HACCP) point of view. To the best of our knowledge, the fees paid by companies to have their products certified are not carried over to the consumer.

 

[kaiserben]

Australian Food & Grocery Council
http://www.afgc.org.au/about-afgc/our-policies/halal-certification/

Why should I have to pay for certification on the products I buy?
The costs of certification for major food and beverage manufacturers are negligible in terms of the total manufacturing cost base and highly unlikely to influence wholesale pricing. Companies that pursue Halal certification generally do so in order to increase sales opportunities to a broader range of consumers.

And the actual, real life costs involved are laid out at this link http://muslimsaustralia.com.au/halal-accreditation-3/ (scroll down to "Schedule of Fees & Charges")

I reckon I'll trust these credible sources rather than some crackpot anti-Halal image circulating the internet.

(EDIT: typo in name of organisation I quoted)

 

[superstock]

Yes, I have, which is why I said that Halal Certification does not fund Islam. My source is reputable, and not some random internet image made in MS Paint by some bigoted fool.

Now you know why i posted that. My ex worked for a group of muslims for all of our marriage, no problems here.

 

[wereprawn]

Who has become wealthy exactly? Did you see this on A Current Affair in between segments about dole bludgers and illegal immigrant boat people stealing jobs from true blue Aussie war veterans?
From that same website under the very next heading:

EDIT (inserted link)
http://www.halal-australia.com.au/clarifying-misconceptions-about-halal/

This bloke, for one, by his own admission. Mohamed El-Mouelhy,