Irish Red Ale

[lobo]

hi all.

my parents are coming home from a holiday to ireland and i am planning to brew an irish red ale.

i have never done an allgrain of this style before, and there isnt much on the recipe database, would like some comments on this recipe.


welcome home irish

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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09-D Scottish And Irish Ale, Irish Red Ale

Min OG: 1.044 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 17 Max IBU: 28
Min Clr: 23 Max Clr: 47 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 23.00 Wort Size (L): 23.00
Total Grain (kg): 5.00
Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.69
Anticipated EBC: 42.3
Anticipated IBU: 26.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 5.00 L Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 28.00 L
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.042 SG 10.50 Plato


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
80.0 4.00 kg. JWM Traditional Ale Malt Australia 1.038 6
8.0 0.40 kg. Weyermann Carared Germany 1.036 63
6.0 0.30 kg. Weyermann Pale Wheat Germany 1.038 4
4.0 0.20 kg. JWM Dark Crystal Australia 1.036 295
2.0 0.10 kg. Chocolate Malt Great Britain 1.034 1258

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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10.00 g. super pride Pellet 15.10 21.4 60 min.
5.00 g. super pride Pellet 15.10 5.5 30 min.


Yeast
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Lallemand Nottingham


i am planning on a single infusion at 65deg.


cheers,

Lobo

 

[manticle]

Fatzgodzilla's better red than dead is a cracker of a beer. Have tasted other brewer's results and am brewing one at the moment.

I don't know a lot about reds but if you check the one I'm referring to and maybe contrast the two you might get a good notion.

Here you go: http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=709

 

[captaincleanoff]

have a look a jamil's irish red.. I did this a few weeks ago, kegged tonight. Looks the goods.

 

[Effect]

I don't know but that looks like a bit too much specialty malt...

Try and keep the crystal around the 5% mark. I would cut the dark crystal all together (as well as the wheat, but that is just my opinion).

Maybe just 93% pale, 5% carared and 2% choc...

Also, I don't see the need for a the superpride at 30min...

Hope this helps, what do others think?

Cheers
Phil

 

[manticle]

The hops seem out of place.
Maybe some dark munich malt
Also not sure about the wheat
Roast Barley apparently can give a red colour (small amounts only - also imparts coffee).

As I said though - I'm brewing my first one at the moment and my experience of drinking reds (besides kilkenny and monteith's) is minimal.

 

[lobo]

thanks for the quick info guys.

the wheat is only in there cos i do for every brew.
wasnt sure how much crystal i should put in there, so thanks for that.

superpride is just my generic bittering hop atm. maybe just the same ibu but at 60mins.

i was thinking of putting in RB, and also munich. think i will change that. thanks again guys.

Lobo

 

[lobo]

amended.


welcome home irish


09-D Scottish And Irish Ale, Irish Red Ale

Min OG: 1.044 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 17 Max IBU: 28
Min Clr: 23 Max Clr: 47 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 23.00 Wort Size (L): 23.00
Total Grain (kg): 5.00
Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.74
Anticipated EBC: 44.1
Anticipated IBU: 27.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
----------------
Evaporation Rate: 5.00 L Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 28.00 L
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.042 SG 10.55 Plato

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
80.0 4.00 kg. JWM Traditional Ale Malt Australia 1.038 6
12.0 0.60 kg. Weyermann Munich II Germany 1.038 31
6.0 0.30 kg. Weyermann Carared Germany 1.036 63
2.0 0.10 kg. JWM Roast Barley Australia 1.036 1882


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
13.00 g. super pride Pellet 15.10 27.9 60 min.
Yeast
-----
Lallemand Nottingham

 

[O'Henry]

I put wheat in everything too. Never done anything bad to a brew and it said to improve head, so why not.

As for your recipe, I haven't brewed one. Sorry I can't be of more help...

 

[chappo1970]

lobo,
see if you can squeeze 100-150grs of Caraaroma it's a very dark caramel malt with aromatic properties.
Adds deep red color and aroma. :icon_drool2:

 

[BoilerBoy]

Your amended recipe is looking better, but for what its worth this is what I would do

4.3 kg Ale malt
300g Cara Red
100g Cara Aroma
100g Roast Barley
200g Flaked Barley

IMHO Irish Reds are a bit more of a platform for that crystal toffee sweetness to shine, no need for the munich, flaked barley adds that little bit of creaminess and while the Superpride will work ok Challenger and EKG would be my first choice. The only other thing that would make it even better would be a decent liquid Irish/Scottish ale yeast.

Good luck with it,

Cheers,
BB

 

[lobo]

dont have any chappo, otherwise i would. dosnt carared do the same, thats why i have it in there.

Lobo

thanks bb. i might try it again with a liquid but wanted it brewed pretty quick, hence the nottingham.

will post the brew on brewday sat.

 

[manticle]

no need for the munich,

You'll have to fight with fatzgodzilla on that one.

 

[Hefty]

There's a great old thread on this here.
I based my first red ale recipe (mine was a partial) on info from this thread and it was awesome. It will be one of my regulars when I get my AG setup finished.

HABAHAGD! :icon_cheers:
Jono.

 

[therook]

I'm having a go at this one on the weekend

Screwy's Irish red

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=528

But leaving the Amarillo out

Rook

 

[brettprevans]

I'm having a go at this one on the weekend

Screwy's Irish red

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...&recipe=528

But using Wyeast 1084 slurry

Rook

screwy does a smoked irish as well. got to try that at some stage

might be an idea to have a later hop addition with a softer AA% hop. just for a little mmore flavour complexity

 

[Swinging Beef]

I used Jamil recipe and was very happy with the results.

Recipe is:
5.5kg MO Pale
0.25 Crystal 40
0.15 Chocolate 450
45kg EKG
1 Pack 1728 Scottish Ale yeast
OG 1048
FG 1015

More info and photos on this thread.
http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...showtopic=35241

It is one of my favorite ever beers.

 

[buttersd70]

Others have suggested caraaroma...combined with carared, it's a winning combo, with a deep red colour.

Muckeys house ale is a hybridised ******* red ale / american amber, and the grainbill is excellent...I've been bugging him for some time to tweak it to a proper irish red, cos all he'd need to do is change one grain, his hops, and his yeast choice....if I was to do it as an Irish red, it would be:

caraaroma 3%
carared 6%
roast barley 1.5% (this is the change; his is carafa)
30% golden promise
59.5% JW trad ale

OG 1047, mash 66

 

[davewaldo]

Does anyone have a link for Jamil's Irish Red Ale Recipe with more info? A search didn't show much...

 

[chappo1970]

...Others have suggested caraaroma...combined with carared, it's a winning combo, with a deep red colour...

Got to agree with that and if you haven't tried it I suggest you do give it a go :icon_drool2: .

Does anyone have a link for Jamil's Irish Red Ale Recipe with more info? A search didn't show much...

Dave,
I have a copy of BYO which has one of Jamil's recipe, not sure if it's the "one" but your welcome to it next time your around Chappo Manor.

Chap Chap

Oh and BTW FatzG recipe is Jamils IIRC? Just the malt back bone was tweaked

 

[Swinging Beef]

Does anyone have a link for Jamil's Irish Red Ale Recipe with more info? A search didn't show much...

Google is your friend.
http://ourbeer.blogspot.com/2007/11/jamils-irish-red.html
Jamil's Irish Red Ale, from Brewing Classic Styles

O.G. 1.054
F.G. 1.014
IBU 27
ABV 5.2%

60 min boil
Boil Volume 7 gallons

8.1 lbs English Pale Ale LME
6 oz Crystal Grains (40L)
6 oz Crystal Grains (120L)
6 oz Roasted Barley
1.25 oz Kent Goldings 5%AA (60 min)

Yeast: Wyeast # 1084 Irish Ale

Process: Steep grains at 148 degrees for 30 min. Wash with water at 178 degrees (pour 1 qt. hot water over grain bag to extract final sugars). Add LME and bring to a boil. Add hops at beginning of boil. Cool rapidly. Ferment at 67 degrees for 10 to 14 days.