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QUOTE(DJR @ May 2 2007, 10:14 AM)
Fairfax really seems to be getting into it though, a month ago they had this in the SMH: http://blogs.smh.com.au/radar/archives/200...rink_to_th.html

That SMH article did a much better job in a lot less space!

Agreed. Shame on my beloved Epicure. SMH showed them up. it addressed the crap perception that HB is akin to prohibition bathtubbing and foul tasting and gave people some sites to visit etc. good article.
 
Ziggy dont take it as snobbery. take it as a bunch of people utterly dedicated and passionate about their hobby. It just like Hohosland said 'its like arguing over which AFL team is better'.... Its all AFL in the end. And so it is with HB. In the end its just a bunch of guys and girls talking passionately about something they love.

And dont just stick to wine. beer is good. I myself love wine, but beer also has a place in life. and what better way to enjoy it than to make your own. much simplier than making your own wine.

PS - Go Hawks!
Ok, perhaps I misinterpreted some of the posts as being a bit snobbish. I understand you guys all know a heck of a lot more about beer than me. It just got my goat that the Age article genuinally tickled my interest about home brewing and I discovered this site and then just read a whole lot of negative posts about how the article "missed the point".
From my point of view it was a good overview of the home brewing revolution and profiled two blokes who clearly love their beer and are enthusiastic about it.
 
Ok, perhaps I misinterpreted some of the posts as being a bit snobbish. I understand you guys all know a heck of a lot more about beer than me. It just got my goat that the Age article genuinally tickled my interest about home brewing and I discovered this site and then just read a whole lot of negative posts about how the article "missed the point".
From my point of view it was a good overview of the home brewing revolution and profiled two blokes who clearly love their beer and are enthusiastic about it.


Ziggy,

I guess what these guys here are saying is if you sample an all-grain beer yo will probably never drink "gloop", commercial beer or possibly wine again ;)

cheers

Darren
 
And fill in your location details.

This Saturday is International Home Brew Day. There may be someone holding a Big brew this weekend near you.

Cheers,
Thommo.
 
And fill in your location details.

This Saturday is International Home Brew Day. There may be someone holding a Big brew this weekend near you.

Cheers,
Thommo.

Anyone in Melbourne know of anything going on in Melbourne?
 
Ziggy,

I guess what these guys here are saying is if you sample an all-grain beer yo will probably never drink "gloop", commercial beer or possibly wine again ;)

cheers

Darren

I'm a self-confessed AG snob, but I still won't turn back a well made kit beer, extract brew or (most) commercial beer. And the Mrs still gets the odd case of wine in, which I help drink. It's all good.
 
Ok, perhaps I misinterpreted some of the posts as being a bit snobbish. I understand you guys all know a heck of a lot more about beer than me. It just got my goat that the Age article genuinally tickled my interest about home brewing and I discovered this site and then just read a whole lot of negative posts about how the article "missed the point".
From my point of view it was a good overview of the home brewing revolution and profiled two blokes who clearly love their beer and are enthusiastic about it.

Ziggy, if you haven't already, read the SMH article, you might be able to see what we're getting at regarding the difference. It's probably not much to an 'outsider', but the hobby gets us a bit of stick from time to time so we can be a bit sensitive about it. In fact, we're all very sensitive guys, just like the redhead poet in Bedazzled.

:ph34r:

Another thing that didn't get a mention is the number of female brewers. There are a few of them on this site already (nobody's really sure, we think some of them are spies). The original brewers were women anyway. Then we realised that fire and shiney things were involved and took over.

Have a good look at some of the other threads and you'll see that the bickering is a small but entertaining part of the hobby. Then if you feel tempted to give it a bash (the brewing, not the bickering) we'll be only too glad to help you out.

:beer:
 
I'm a self-confessed AG snob

I was starting to go this way, but then Wortgames gave me a glass of his toucan whatever-you'd-call-it. It was made from two cans of some lager goo, and it tasted quite good. Redefined my opinion of can-of-goo brews.
However, I still can't bring myself to enjoy can + dextrose/sugar brews.
I'm yet to taste a can + kilo DME brew, so I'll reserve judgement.
 
I was starting to go this way, but then Wortgames gave me a glass of his toucan whatever-you'd-call-it. It was made from two cans of some lager goo, and it tasted quite good. Redefined my opinion of can-of-goo brews.
However, I still can't bring myself to enjoy can + dextrose/sugar brews.
I'm yet to taste a can + kilo DME brew, so I'll reserve judgement.
Wardhog you dont live too far from me (im nunawading), so once Ive done a can + DME and another toucan I'll let you know and you can have a taste. They are still a couple f brews away cause I got get a few largers, pilsners etc done while the weather is colder.
 
Citymorgue,

Here is the list of registered sites. Most of them are in the US but you may find one down in Melbourne.

Kabooby :)
Cheers! fOund one!

site#:224 | Montrose Brewing
Montrose, Victoria Australia
site type: residence
email: [email protected]
notes: 1st big brew day and 2nd lager/ bock for the southern winter that is approaching.
 
Ziggy,

if you are in Sydney, you're welcome to come over to my place on Saturday where a bunch of us are getting together to do an all grain brew, sample each others creations & shoot the breeze.

These gatherings are usually a mix of kit, extract, partial & all grain brewers, who share a common passion & love to swap hints & tips. Come on down & I'm sure you will learn a lot about the brewing process and practices as well as try some sensational beers which you just can't find in a shop.

Send me a PM (personal message) for my address or look it up on the big brewday site (site#187).

FWIW, I think the SMH article was more condensed & dare I say it - "balanced". B)

An easy way to start in brewing is to go & buy the Coopers starter kit from Big W (or similar) is how many her got started. It has everything you need for your first brew at a reasonable price. Many of the bits you will re-use for subsequent brews - i still use 3/4 of the stuff. I know that many brew shops do starter kits as well so don't forget to check em out too - cause the decent ones will give you lots of advice as well as being a great place to chat ;-).

beers Crozdog
 
I was starting to go this way, but then Wortgames gave me a glass of his toucan whatever-you'd-call-it. It was made from two cans of some lager goo, and it tasted quite good. Redefined my opinion of can-of-goo brews.
However, I still can't bring myself to enjoy can + dextrose/sugar brews.
I'm yet to taste a can + kilo DME brew, so I'll reserve judgement.

Hell dude. I'll drink 'em, I just don't brew 'em (I mean, I would if for instance I was almost out of beer and had no time to brew, but then I'd probably put a call in to Scotty for a wort kit). Some of my best friends are extract brewers. Even weirder, some of my friends are wine geeks!
 
I was starting to go this way, but then Wortgames gave me a glass of his toucan whatever-you'd-call-it. It was made from two cans of some lager goo, and it tasted quite good. Redefined my opinion of can-of-goo brews.
I should point out, too, that I was actually embarrassed to serve that to you Wardhog - I was really down to my homebrew 'shrapnel' that day!

It was a toucan of Bavarian Lager that I made before Christmas. The gravity was a bit high so I filled one of the big Grolsch 1.5L jobbies straight out of the tap to make room in the keg for some water. It had been in the fridge since, until you came over and I had nothing else to offer!

It was pretty flat, and probably a bit oxidised, but it was beer :ph34r:
 
how is this different to golf, or archery or whatever else?

its K&K that gives HB a bad name IMO
Not wanting to join in the argument, but here goes.

You can play your first game of golf for about $20 at a local public course with hire clubs. Even cheaper than brewing your first batch of beer.

If you don't get people into the hobby in the first place, you won't get them moving up to full boils and all grain. Baby steps people. If we all got to the AG level and there was no demand for extract, do you think they'd still be available? No. And then how do people get in at the ground floor? They can't.

Leave the K&Kers alone.
 
Cheers! fOund one!

site#:224 | Montrose Brewing
Montrose, Victoria Australia
site type: residence
email: [email protected]
notes: 1st big brew day and 2nd lager/ bock for the southern winter that is approaching.

That's me :rolleyes: .
Send me a PM If you want to come and check it out.
Early start @ 8-9 (not as early as some here) now that I have a timer and a mashmaster on the HLT.

Luke :super:
 
funnily enough was in melbourne over the weekend and found this article and grabbed it to bring back and read.... was something in the herald sun about coopers and the coke into beer thing too late last week i think
 
You can play your first game of golf for about $20 at a local public course with hire clubs. Even cheaper than brewing your first batch of beer.

you can hire my can opener for $19, even cheaper than golf :)
 
An easy way to start in brewing is to go & buy the Coopers starter kit from Big W (or similar) is how many her got started. It has everything you need for your first brew at a reasonable price. Many of the bits you will re-use for subsequent brews - i still use 3/4 of the stuff. I know that many brew shops do starter kits as well so don't forget to check em out too - cause the decent ones will give you lots of advice as well as being a great place to chat ;-).

Ziggy,
that's good advice. That's how I started (except I used my husbands neglected kit). That was just over a year
ago and I'm now doing all sorts of unexpected things, and saying things like mash, sparge and krausen. :)
A great deal of what I know about brewing came from help from the guys here.
Some of them are a bit snobby about beer (don't tell them I said that) but not snobby about people
and are very willing to help out a newbie.
Get a starter kit make some beer, ask questions, make more beer. Oh and drink it I suppose!

-braufrau

Actually I am a spy and wortgames has blown my cover. Darn! Such an elaborate ruse and all!
 

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