Grain Mill Motor

[hando]

could use an old washing machine motor.

 

[Gout]

i dont have an old machine sadly and i thought the idea of a 1:1 ratio on the mill will make it easy to set up rather than belts and cams etc

 

[Back Yard Brewer]

Without me going through the forum, what is the recommended rpm for the millmaster? I have a valley mill which recommends no faster than 300rpm.

BYB

 

[bradsbrew]

http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/inde...ic=35134&hl= 100rpm to 200 rpm seems the average.

Brad

 

[WarmBeer]

After a lot of reading i found this post re- motors for the mill - mine is a barley crusher.

I went to get a XF window motor however it was raining and they looked hard to get out of the car( the yard was shutting so i missed out). Lazer's had a motor that was very easy to get at (3 bolts)

Are most car motors similar or is XF used because its much better? (bigger) and basicly the same speed? I would like 150RPM and sounds like the XF is 70 odd RPM - all motors where the same price $25. Otherwise should i try get something like a AU motor because its newer?

I will try get to the yard again this weekend and score a motor to try and rig up the mill

Resurrecting an old(ish) thread.

Did any of you guys have success with getting the wiper motor going?

I picked up a motor from a recent Falcon, with 5 terminals in the plug assembly.

Ground is easy to determine, but I can't get the motor to rotate at all, even connecting my can battery to any of the other 4 terminals.

Is it necessary to bridge any of the terminals in order to turn the internal electronics within the motor "On"?

Cheers.

 

[Fourstar]

Resurrecting an old(ish) thread.

Did any of you guys have success with getting the wiper motor going?

I picked up a motor from a recent Falcon, with 5 terminals in the plug assembly.

Ground is easy to determine, but I can't get the motor to rotate at all, even connecting my can battery to any of the other 4 terminals.

Is it necessary to bridge any of the terminals in order to turn the internal electronics within the motor "On"?

Cheers.

Sure you got yourself a working motor?

seriously though, considering they are turned on in a car by applying a 'switch' of sorts, i'd assume you would have to jump a pair.

 

[WarmBeer]

Sure you got yourself a working motor?

No.

Got a convenient late model Ford Falcon I can try it with?

 

[Banshee]

Resurrecting an old(ish) thread.

Did any of you guys have success with getting the wiper motor going?

I picked up a motor from a recent Falcon, with 5 terminals in the plug assembly.

Ground is easy to determine, but I can't get the motor to rotate at all, even connecting my can battery to any of the other 4 terminals.

Is it necessary to bridge any of the terminals in order to turn the internal electronics within the motor "On"?

Cheers.

I got a motor from a mate earlier in the week and found that the earth I was using was not for the motor. If it is anything like mine there are 3 wires from socket to the motor. The centre wire is ground and the outer left and right are positives to high and low speed.

 

[seemax]

I picked up a motor from a recent Falcon, with 5 terminals in the plug assembly.

I can get the pin outs if you like - any idea what model or year it was?

 

[Plastic Man]

Been running my Marga using a window winder motor for a few years now. Always been meaning to post a pic. Finally went one better and took a small vid:



Bought it from Oatley electronics, (Toyota) and runs from an old PC power supply. Only turns at about 80RPM but works fine. It's a nice grunty little motor.

Been meaning to make a more permanent stand for it but this works pretty well and sets up in a few mins.

Richard

PS - is there a way of embedding a youtube vid ?? Did a search but can't find anything ???

 

[cat007]

Been running my Marga using a window winder motor for a few years now. Always been meaning to post a pic. Finally went one better and took a small vid:



Bought it from Oatley electronics, (Toyota) and runs from an old PC power supply. Only turns at about 80RPM but works fine. It's a nice grunty little motor.

Been meaning to make a more permanent stand for it but this works pretty well and sets up in a few mins.

Richard

PS - is there a way of embedding a youtube vid ?? Did a search but can't find anything ???

I wonder if it'd be grunty enough to get some pulley's and gear it up so it cranks the mill over at ~200rpm?

 

[GrainStain]

Got the new mill today.

Can someone point me in the right direction for tips on building a hopper?

The gaps on the outer side of the rollers and the frame are quite large.

What is the way to stop grain falling straight through???

 

[scooza]

hi seen some good one's in the $2 ghetto thread. lol.

 

[The Scientist]

Washing machine motors work a treat:




Also can be used to kill Zombies hey Browndog

 

[browndog]

Washing machine motors work a treat:

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Also can be used to kill Zombies hey Browndog

Rips their spines right out boy.

 

[TidalPete]

Rips their spines right out boy.

Too bad it doesn't work on Queenslanders Tony? <_< :lol:
And to keep on-topic my trusty old electric hammer drill combined with my 3-roller Cranker gives me plus\minus 88% eff so I see no need to change ATM.

TP

 

[The Scientist]

Too bad it doesn't work on Queenslanders Tony? <_< :lol:
TP

QLDers have spines? :unsure:

 

[browndog]

Too bad it doesn't work on Queenslanders Tony? <_< :lol:
And to keep on-topic my trusty old electric hammer drill combined with my 3-roller Cranker gives me plus\minus 88% eff so I see no need to change ATM.

TP

Each to their own old buddy, but Liam may be onto something there. Heard Daly Cherry Evans is a special for the no 7 maroon mate. Don't think I'd like a dirty silvertail in my team...

 

[TidalPete]

Don't think I'd like a dirty silvertail in my team...

We agree for once browndog except Daly Cherry Evans is a talented innocent compared to those thugs in the same team.
Five attacking one is hardly "manly". What dingoes!

Still putting your entries into Qld comps I see?
Whatever made you & your mate "The scientist" the browndog wannabe move up here if things are so great back where you come from?
Over and Out.

TP

 

[hsb]

Thinking of motorising my Monster Mill as the drill runs way too fast, and researching through all these old threads.
Looking at various solutions, I'd much rather try and set it up 1:1 with a coupling, rather than mess around with pulleys.

Does something like this look in the ball park?
http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//produ...b55587c361b91de

SC112 MOTOR DETAILS...

This motor starts rotating at only 0.5VDC, (yes 1/2 of a volt).

12VDC operation
Rated speed: 3600 RPM
Rated current:
Measures: 67mm X 97mm (+ shaft)
Shaft: 8mm "D" shaped end with cir-clip groove.
Weight: ~1.1kg

It comes with a Speed Controller as well, so all I'm figuring all I'd need is the coupling (8mm <> 3/8") and I'm away?

Does that sound right? Or is this motor too feeble?

I see the great bespoke brewing solutions like this:
http://www.motiondynamics.com.au/specials/...0nm-torque.html

But $169 is way over budget.

Oatley have plenty of motors but I'll confess to being in the dark on any motor that didn't come installed inside a Scalextric car.
http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//index...b55587c361b91de


Any tips on the cheap without pulleys? Cheers.

 

[QldKev]

Thinking of motorising my Monster Mill as the drill runs way too fast, and researching through all these old threads.
Looking at various solutions, I'd much rather try and set it up 1:1 with a coupling, rather than mess around with pulleys.

Does something like this look in the ball park?
http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//produ...b55587c361b91de

SC112 MOTOR DETAILS...

This motor starts rotating at only 0.5VDC, (yes 1/2 of a volt).

12VDC operation
Rated speed: 3600 RPM
Rated current:
Measures: 67mm X 97mm (+ shaft)
Shaft: 8mm "D" shaped end with cir-clip groove.
Weight: ~1.1kg

It comes with a Speed Controller as well, so all I'm figuring all I'd need is the coupling (8mm <> 3/8") and I'm away?

Does that sound right? Or is this motor too feeble?

I see the great bespoke brewing solutions like this:
http://www.motiondynamics.com.au/specials/...0nm-torque.html

But $169 is way over budget.

Oatley have plenty of motors but I'll confess to being in the dark on any motor that didn't come installed inside a Scalextric car.
http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//index...b55587c361b91de


Any tips on the cheap without pulleys? Cheers.

Have a look on my website, I run an oatley motor. On my Monster mill It rocks!

That one in your oatley link doesn't state the power rating. I wouldn't touch it without knowing it. Also it's 3600rpm so you would need to reduce that heaps.


QldKev

 

[hsb]

Thanks mate, much appreciated. I'm having a butchers at your site right now. That's a great help. I'll digest and update when I dip my toe in and get started. YYR that one I linked to is something of an unknown.. :icon_cheers:

 

[kjparker]

Oatley don't sell those motors anymore, they are keeping any stock they have for their range of electric bikes.

I got the same motor from eBay, delivered to me for less than Oakley were charging.

I pretty much used the same method of connecting the mill to the motor as kev did, if you look up my posts there is a video on here somewhere of my mill in action. Works a treat with my two roller mm

 

[QldKev]

Oatley is out of stock, but here is an ebay one for $94 delivered (edit: notice clueless said they don't sell them anymore, so explains why)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24V-250Watt-Ele...=item257117933a
No need for speed controls, just wire it via a switch to 12v and you get a decent speed.


Out of interest the motion dynamics is 180w, the one above is 250w


QldKev

 

[kjparker]

That's the seller I bought mine from.

On 12v as stated above works great. No muss no fuss, it just chews through anything I have given it so far. I also start it with the hopper full. No need to get running first.

 

[Cervantes]

Oatley is out of stock, but here is an ebay one for $94 delivered (edit: notice clueless said they don't sell them anymore, so explains why)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24V-250Watt-Ele...=item257117933a
No need for speed controls, just wire it via a switch to 12v and you get a decent speed.


Out of interest the motion dynamics is 180w, the one above is 250w


QldKev

QldKev,

Would a laptop power supply work to power this motor?

Or should I use the battery charger?

Thanks

 

[QldKev]

QldKev,

Would a laptop power supply work to power this motor?

Or should I use the battery charger?

Thanks

Some will be good, but it would depend on the specs of the laptop power supply you have, same as the battery charger.

 

[Cervantes]

Thanks for that.

I suppose it's a case of try it and see.

 

[Cervantes]

Okay, I've been doing some research and seen a couple of builds where they have used a "start capacitor" (Whatever that is)

So..............

1. What's it for?
2. Do I need it?

Thanks

 

[Spiesy]

Oatley is out of stock, but here is an ebay one for $94 delivered (edit: notice clueless said they don't sell them anymore, so explains why)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/24V-250Watt-Ele...=item257117933a
No need for speed controls, just wire it via a switch to 12v and you get a decent speed.


Out of interest the motion dynamics is 180w, the one above is 250w


QldKev

Why do you need 250W?

What is the torque rating?