Nullnvoid
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That guy is an absolute toss pot.
Can't watch anymore than about 10 seconds of his videos.
I don't take any of his stories seriously.
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That guy is an absolute toss pot.
Can't watch anymore than about 10 seconds of his videos.
I don't take any of his stories seriously.
malt and barley blues
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I didn't realise they had a new one is it any better than the V1 or just as bad. Has he done a follow up video?
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You clearly have an agenda here. Kegland have thousands of happy customers. It would be nice if we had a sample size bigger than 2 for KegKing's equivalent, but we don]'t.
Why are you posting screenshots from both an iPhone and an Android phone? Who is feeding you images to post here? Keg King? I smell a rat here and it's obviously a coordinated effort between tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum and CEO Keg King. The constant petty sniping does nothing to help his business or make me want to shop there.
onemorecell
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people who are happy don't complain...
malt and barley blues
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Hmmm, it must be those who are unhappy with their purchase who are complaining.
I Have a Coopers Draught ready to Keg after being in the Fermzilla for the past 9 days. My first try with the Fermzilla I have managed to keep it at an average temp of 23 Deg and the pressure between 10 and 12 psi. My question is what sort of pressure should I apply to the keg for carbonation. I will chill the keg before the transfer and then leave in the fridge. I do not have room in the fridge for the fermenter.
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Hey "awfulknauful" just wondering why the sudden interest in a fermzilla? If you are interested in purchasing one they are available online!! A quick google search will point you in that direction. However if you are looking for further reviews and opinions of home brewer youtubers please refer to these links and channels below:-
David Heath
Home brew network
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGasherRulz/videos
Beer n BBQ Larry
https://www.youtube.com/user/BEERNBBQBYLARRY/videos
Simple Home Brew
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzDFVD7OPyknYoiy2jcA4A
The list goes on. Just type into youtube "fermzilla" or "fermzilla review" and watch away!!
Happy youtubing!!!
malt and barley blues
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Aren't they the old version?
Nullnvoid
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This coming from the person who just found out that there is apparently a new version
onemorecell
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no **** mate... but saying 1000 people complaining and no one saying they aren't complaining is a bonehead statement.
if you say "1000 people shouldn't need to complain" you'd have a point - and maybe even a good one. And you wouldn't be sitting there as some keyboard jockey out to play with their agenda.
**** me why is everyone who blindly and blatantly hates kegland is such a ******** about it
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Of course I just saw the unboxing of the video of the new one easy to see they aren't the same.
You are either missing a point or making one, does that mean that all those with the Fermentasaurus or any of its off spring are happier, cos that would look like they are, seeing as there are nil complaints about them.
Why do you think I hate Keg Land, I don't hate anyone, especially blindly and blatantly.
Fro-Daddy
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There were complaints of leaky valves and difficult disassembly on the original. But I haven't seen one pop yet.
Actually I don't think that is a new one, it looks remarkably similar to one which was seen before the FermZilla shape was decided on. Some one put a photo of it draining next to a dumpster outside KL factory. It was before the FermZilla was released.
If there was a new one it would be advertised, I would imagine.
I think that is the 3rd one that KL has sent to Dr Hans to review, might be 3rd time lucky.
Hi All - I have been chasing a really slow leak for a couple of brews, which I've finally figured out. This is on a recent All rounder which I bought for the singular reason that it seemed like it would be easiest of all options to make and keep clean (given how much the depth and small opening of kegs ***** me to tears!).
Anyway, was holding pressure for a brew, but as soon as it was into settling phase (yeast had finished), it would lose pressure over night, from 12 psi down to 3 or so.
Actual cause was carbonation caps - one was fixed by simply changing over to a SS one and hand tight, the other plastic one was tightening with an adjustable spanner (well as much as you can with plastic - which isnt much - about a quarter turn I'd guess)
Anyway, I'd recommend getting SS carb caps rather than the few dollars cheaper red plastic ones . Strangely the plastic ones work fine on PET coke bottles - possiby slightly thinner plastic on the tops of PET bottles.
happy brewing
Anyway, was holding pressure for a brew, but as soon as it was into settling phase (yeast had finished), it would lose pressure over night, from 12 psi down to 3 or so.
Actual cause was carbonation caps - one was fixed by simply changing over to a SS one and hand tight, the other plastic one was tightening with an adjustable spanner (well as much as you can with plastic - which isnt much - about a quarter turn I'd guess)
Anyway, I'd recommend getting SS carb caps rather than the few dollars cheaper red plastic ones . Strangely the plastic ones work fine on PET coke bottles - possiby slightly thinner plastic on the tops of PET bottles.
happy brewing
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I'm on my 5th brew with my FZ all rounder and been loving it. Doing closed transfers to my kegs now and I find with the all rounder it is easy to get every last drop out. As the FZ is nearly empty I rotate it on the stand so the beer pools on one side, very little wastage. A few comments though:
It seems weird that the vessel is rated to 2.4bar but the prv is 2.5. So if you leave it without a spunding valve attached (or one set too high). you are going outside the rated working range. I know the difference is tiny, and most likely due to 2.5bar prvs being readily available, but it does make me question why they couldn't rate it at 2.5bar.
I find the lid difficult to get off. the first time was user error, i tightened the lock ring up too tight. But after this the flat lid needs a lot of levering to get out, and yes I do use keg lube.
Also not a fan of the plastic carbonation caps. They seem to be harder to get disconnects on/off than the stainless ones.
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Chris
It seems weird that the vessel is rated to 2.4bar but the prv is 2.5. So if you leave it without a spunding valve attached (or one set too high). you are going outside the rated working range. I know the difference is tiny, and most likely due to 2.5bar prvs being readily available, but it does make me question why they couldn't rate it at 2.5bar.
I find the lid difficult to get off. the first time was user error, i tightened the lock ring up too tight. But after this the flat lid needs a lot of levering to get out, and yes I do use keg lube.
Also not a fan of the plastic carbonation caps. They seem to be harder to get disconnects on/off than the stainless ones.
Cheers,
Chris
I tried to include links to reviews of the Fermzilla as a unit. Positive, neutral and negative. As he seemed quite interested in finding out if the unit was right for him. In terms of “version 2” everybody’s favourite doctor never mentions this but if you are referring to the units that now ship with lube, carry handle, bigger seal, etc if you have a look at (off the top of my head) simple home brewing and the home brewing network they specifically have Fermzilla’s with these feature. A search of YouTube for “Fermzilla v2” will yield no results and KegLand does not even sell a “v2”. So best dig a little deeper at YouTube university to find out more.
As the FZ is nearly empty I rotate it on the stand so the beer pools on one side, very little wastage.
Thanks Rodney, I was coming on here for two reasons:
1) to read the constant sniping and bitching.
2) to find out if anyone else is wasting as much beer as I am. Turns out the solution is super simple and i should have thought of it! Will use it on my next batch.
Thanks Rodney, I was coming on here for two reasons:
1) to read the constant sniping and bitching.
2) to find out if anyone else is wasting as much beer as I am. Turns out the solution is super simple and i should have thought of it! Will use it on my next batch.
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Best you watch the Dr Hans video, clearly two different stands and tanks.
Grmblz
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+1 Pushing his own products whilst "reviewing" someone elses, he's up himself, and should have been a politician, and we all know they can be trusted.
TheBeerBaron
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The changes would make it a version 1.5 at best. I would expect more fundamental revisions for it to be called a V2 which is probably why they haven't named it as such..
Still waiting for Dr Hans to do a review of the G3... so far all I ever see is it sitting in the background...
I think that shows they are addressing the problem.
I’m sorry you clearly missed the sarcasm in my long winded responses towards people that have no intention of using the product in which this thread is about. I have watched the video several times and at no point did the good doctor make mention of a “v2” in fact if we study the opening scene we can observe the words “Fermzilla v1.?”
So with out any clear definition of a “v2” how can one definitively argue that other youtubers (the ones I quoted before) are not using the same unit as shown in the doctors video? They seem to have the same features so I guess one can only assume they are the same. I will attempt to contacted all YouTube party’s involved asking them to send there units in for forensic examination to determine once and for all if they are in fact the same units or not.
I will keep you posted!
Grmblz
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I assume your comparison of said units will be rigorous, and demand they be delivered full of actively fermenting beer, after which you will post a vid on Youtube extolling the virtues of your latest kit beer whilst guzzling some obscure brew, and prancing around like an excited teenage schoolgirl going on her first date.
Nullnvoid
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Worst. Doctor. Ever!
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Grmblz
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You might want to change your user name to something other than your email address.
I've got a Fermentasaurus v.1 37L lost count of the brews through it both atmospheric and pressurised, and absolutely no problems, BUT! the Fermzilla seems to be a different beast, they've undoubtedly tried to improve the v.1 and on the face of it some of the changes may seem like a good idea, reduced volume for less head space (see thoughts) larger opening to facilitate cleaning and redesigned collection bottle/valve with several advantages, unfortunately the "improvements" have led to some unforeseen issues, some have suffered from cracks in the main body, difficulties with the new bigger lid (sealing and then removing) removal and replacement of the bigger valve, and exploding/cracked ports on the collection vessels. Now some of this can be attributed to user error, but it worries me that the same users didn't have these issues with the original, so what exactly is going on here? I note they have changed the shape of the main vessel but not made an announcement to that effect (probably don't want a shtload of returns) will they change the collection bottle? Who knows, but if I were looking at buying one I would definitely wait until they released a v.2 and actually called it that rather than make incremental changes to address issues as they arise without telling anyone.
Just a thought, the collection bottles are brittle unlike PET, so close the valve whilst active and bang, similar effect with the v.1 just not as potentially dangerous because it's PET, but why are the PET bodies exploding? Is it possible that with increasing hopping rates especially during fermentation, and particularly with pellets, that the reduced volume from the v.1 saurus @ 37L to the v.2 zilla @ 27L is increasing the number of PRV's that are getting clogged with hop residue, this would happen at high krausen when the yeast engine is flat out and has the pedal to the metal, it would be a big effort for a 23L brew to hit the PRV in a 37L, but a 27L not so much, and it takes a lot less CO2 to burst a 27L than a 37L, is this an "improvement" that has had unintended consequences? The solution of course is a blow off tube but how do you maintain pressure (if that is the aim) I've posted elsewhere on pressurised blow off tubes/vessels (look at "spunding valve") just make sure you remove the poppet from the post or that will clog as easily as a PRV. But how many newish brewers know about blow off's? Just my thoughts/musings, and I may be barking mad up the wrong tree, but perhaps KL would be better off sending some test units out into the real world into the hands of noobs rather than giggling tossers like Dr Nut Job.
I'm sure this will be seen by some as a baseless attack on KL (looking at you one cell) despite me praising their saurus, it is not, it's just my thoughts on what is a perplexing series of issues with one of their products, and my advice (see wait for v.2) to those seeking to purchase it. I am seriously looking at buying another one (saurus) but unfortunately they've been superseded, the closest thing to the original is KK's v.3, I'm not completely sold on the plunger valve but will keep an open mind, @ $10 the difference the price is irrelevant but 27L v 35L, the smaller opening without the sealing/opening issues, and that small 500ml pet collection bottle ideal for yeast harvesting (I've got 3 of them) I'll stick with a saurus until something better comes along.
I've got a Fermentasaurus v.1 37L lost count of the brews through it both atmospheric and pressurised, and absolutely no problems, BUT! the Fermzilla seems to be a different beast, they've undoubtedly tried to improve the v.1 and on the face of it some of the changes may seem like a good idea, reduced volume for less head space (see thoughts) larger opening to facilitate cleaning and redesigned collection bottle/valve with several advantages, unfortunately the "improvements" have led to some unforeseen issues, some have suffered from cracks in the main body, difficulties with the new bigger lid (sealing and then removing) removal and replacement of the bigger valve, and exploding/cracked ports on the collection vessels. Now some of this can be attributed to user error, but it worries me that the same users didn't have these issues with the original, so what exactly is going on here? I note they have changed the shape of the main vessel but not made an announcement to that effect (probably don't want a shtload of returns) will they change the collection bottle? Who knows, but if I were looking at buying one I would definitely wait until they released a v.2 and actually called it that rather than make incremental changes to address issues as they arise without telling anyone.
Just a thought, the collection bottles are brittle unlike PET, so close the valve whilst active and bang, similar effect with the v.1 just not as potentially dangerous because it's PET, but why are the PET bodies exploding? Is it possible that with increasing hopping rates especially during fermentation, and particularly with pellets, that the reduced volume from the v.1 saurus @ 37L to the v.2 zilla @ 27L is increasing the number of PRV's that are getting clogged with hop residue, this would happen at high krausen when the yeast engine is flat out and has the pedal to the metal, it would be a big effort for a 23L brew to hit the PRV in a 37L, but a 27L not so much, and it takes a lot less CO2 to burst a 27L than a 37L, is this an "improvement" that has had unintended consequences? The solution of course is a blow off tube but how do you maintain pressure (if that is the aim) I've posted elsewhere on pressurised blow off tubes/vessels (look at "spunding valve") just make sure you remove the poppet from the post or that will clog as easily as a PRV. But how many newish brewers know about blow off's? Just my thoughts/musings, and I may be barking mad up the wrong tree, but perhaps KL would be better off sending some test units out into the real world into the hands of noobs rather than giggling tossers like Dr Nut Job.
I'm sure this will be seen by some as a baseless attack on KL (looking at you one cell) despite me praising their saurus, it is not, it's just my thoughts on what is a perplexing series of issues with one of their products, and my advice (see wait for v.2) to those seeking to purchase it. I am seriously looking at buying another one (saurus) but unfortunately they've been superseded, the closest thing to the original is KK's v.3, I'm not completely sold on the plunger valve but will keep an open mind, @ $10 the difference the price is irrelevant but 27L v 35L, the smaller opening without the sealing/opening issues, and that small 500ml pet collection bottle ideal for yeast harvesting (I've got 3 of them) I'll stick with a saurus until something better comes along.
Be careful, it looks like you are actually derailing the slanging match into some reasoned thought and discussion
I have a Fermentasaurus v1 and the dump valve assembly is garbage and I have jammed it twice (you could argue user error but it is very easy to do if not paying close attention and use it sporadically), to the extent this time that I am going to probably have to hacksaw it off and replace it (I have sourced a replacement one for a reasonable price thanks to a kindly supplier).
I don’t think either design has really got there 100% yet but will be getting an All Rounder to have a play around with and compare (you Aussies are spoilt with the prices though as they tend to double by the time they get to the EU, although I am not sure why this should be so with the stuff shipped direct from China). I was planning on getting the Fermzilla but was waiting for the high temperature body to come out but I think the All Rounder suits my needs for now, as it is very easy to overbuild starters anyway so the dump valve just becomes another thing to clean (this seems to be true of both the competing models after seeing pictures in the wild of both - I will probably still look at getting the G3 upgrade IF it comes in at a reasonable price in the EU, if not I will not bother e.g. the snub nose is getting sold here for stupid money so it will never sell in quantity).
One thing I have not seen mentioned though that I find great about the Fermzilla is that you can buy spare bodies in 27L/35L/60L size (yes they do a 35L in the EU) and then just use the appropriate body with the other parts to easily change your brew length (ok you will need to replace the silicone hose for the floating dip tube but that is peanuts and takes seconds). It may also be true of the Fermentasaurus 3, but I don't think becuase IIRC the neck size is different so the parts are not interchangeable.
Grmblz
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Be careful, it looks like you are actually derailing the slanging match into some reasoned thought and discussion
My work here is done.
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