If you're pretty set on a GF but want to see an improved version (a reasonably smart idea I think) why not go a really cheap option such as a simple electric or burner powered kettle and BIAB on the cheap, nail down some good technque before making the 'jump' to the GF? I think its good to do things the 'harder' way first anyway as it allows you to understand the processes perhaps a little better? For less than $100 dollars I'm doing 10L BIAB AG batches and I'm loving it. The only thing restricting my volume is that I'm using a 19L pot. So if you're not quite sure on the GF yet or are hoping it'll improve, grab a burner and pot or an electric kettle from someone for 80 bucks and enjoy All Grain brewing until you're absolutely sure you want to commit to the GF. Read and watch every review you can and see whether you think a new and improved verion may come out.panzerd18 said:
I have been cooling in the sink for a while now. About 9 odd litres of finished undiluted wort. This takes about 30-40 mins on average to get to 25-30 degrees. Then when diluted will bring it down again. I haven't had any issues using this method as many otherspanzerd18 said:
If I can add to moodgett's comment I also use an ice bath for cooling 10L of wort (I do 10L batches AG) and have been able to get my wort from ~90C down to 20C in about 25 minutes. A day or two before I half-fill plastic shopping bags with water then chuck them in the chest freezer. I have a removed laundry sink in the shed which I sit outside and initially I add just straight tap water to cool the wort somewhat, this prevents wasting ice as when the wort is 90C the 25C tap water take a lot of the temp out without wasting ice, once that water gets hot (fairly quickly) I drain it all then fill up again with normal temp water, this lot gets less hot but once I'm happy it's done most of what it was going to do I then drain it and take to my giant ice blocks with a hammer and get the ice in with enough tap water to have the ice suspended, move the pot around the ice bath for about 15 minutes and it should chill really quickly.panzerd18 said:
Ok my apologies if I am hitting nerves here. The main thing I'm getting at is pouring from a stock pot with very hot wort into a container with a small opening. Dont think it would be a great intro to AG needing to go to the burns unit.tavas said:
I fail to see how this is in any way irresponsible considering the number of people who no-chill without complaints of burning themselves. Indeed, I did just this a couple of weeks ago. Skin all intact. It's not as if you stand with your boiling kettle above the cube pouring carefully and hoping not to spill. If you (the no-chill cuber) have a modicum of nouse, you'd realise that.moodgett said:
I now realise that challenging something is clearly not acceptable. Some things to consider. The OP is a kit brewer, he may not have done a wort boil. Clearly he wants to learn and find out info. But one thing you shouldn't assume that just just because many other people do something without incident, doesnt mean it'll never happen. And we are actually talking about holding a kettle of hot wort and pouring it into a cube.welly2 said:
I like this. Is there a build thread?hotmelt said:
No we're notmoodgett said:
We're talking about feeding the wort through a silicone tube into a cube. Does anyone actually hold the kettle? Surely not.. :unsure:
For my first AG BIAB I no chilled, safely lifted and poured 2 x 19L pots through a funnel (and strainer) into the cube. It was probably safer than carrying my 2 pots to the sink to chill.welly2 said:No we're not
But as Feldon said, I think your intentions are in the right place!
