BjornJ
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Yesterday was not a good day.
I wanted to test a theory I had, aiming to get bottled homebrew without sediment.
Imagine, having "real" beer in bottles to let others try homebrew or bring to a party without having to explain the whole thing about not being able to drink it from the bottle, having to decant it into a jug, etc. Not to mention having to throw part of each beer away. I want to bring a six-pack of my own beer, in my own labels out on a picnic. Enjoy the fruits of my labour without worrying about the yeast sediment being stirred into the entire bottle from carrying the esky around.
I am sure some of you know what I mean..
Anyway.
I fermented as usual, then siphoned 15 liters into my cube. Morgans Mid strength 3.5 for those interested.
Bulk carbonated with 180 gr of Dextrose dissolved in some hot water. This was 50% to much after reading online about bulk priming. The thinking was to have excess carbonation so I could easily loose some when bottling without ending up with flat beer.
So I had my cube of 15 liters of bulk carbonated beer, and left the cube in the cupboard in a big plastic container, just in case it would not hold the pressure.
5 weeks later:
The cube was bulging a little, it now had a bit of head space (5 cm?). When I put it away I squeezed it completely shut with no air in it, so it was obvious that the cask conditioning had worked!!!
The Joy! Calling it "pride" may be pushing it, but I had by now discussed it with a mate at work who also homebrews (he was somewhat sceptical) and Dave from Dave's Homebrew who felt I should "smoke less crack while homebrewing", hehe! I was looking forward to this, I wanted Sediment Free Homebrew, damn it. It was going to work, I don't care what anyone (rightly) said.
I had even boasted to the guys at the North Shore homebrew appreciation club, that I would be bringing beautiful beer in sediment free bottles with labels for the next tasting. Ok, maybe I was putting a bit much into this, but it was fun trying to do something I had not tried before..
Yesterday I went up to the homebrew shop again, bought a small hand-capper from Dave who after advising about bulk priming, selling me the supplies and getting the hand capper said if it works out he will take full credit. And if it doesn't it will be all my fault... The pressure is building, this better work!!
Back at work I got help with emptying out a six-pack of Little Creatures Bright Ale so I could have some glass bottles to fill.
With the baby asleep last night, it was time..
I was ready. Bottle caps, sanitiser, bottles, the works. I was going to bottle cask conditioned beer, brilliant!!
Scrubbed off labels, washed and sanitised, etc.
The cube came out from the fridge, it has been there overnight to get the beer as cold as possible before bottling.
Taa-daa!!
It was flat!!!
Crystal clear, yes. Ok tasting, yup. Smells nice, even. But carbonation, you ask?? No. Flat. Completely flat. Completely flat, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Had a glass of (flat) beer while pondering it over. No, still flat. Flat beer is not to my liking. It was of course sediment free, but somehow this was not what I was after.
Not happy, I'll tell you that.
Considered tipping the whole thing out, but decided to make the best of it.
Bottled the six-pack of glass bottles, if nothing else I got to test hand capping.
Bottled 10 PET bottles against better knowledge, thinking "maybe it will get better", or "maybe I can add carbonation drops later"..
I have no explanation other than that my cube does not hold pressure? :angry:
When I put the cube in the fridge, I carefully opened the cap and released the excess pressure. It definetly said "fssssss" for about 3-4 seconds, but that was it.
After having a nights sleep between me and the FLAT BEER, I am now thinking to put some carbonation drops into half of the PET bottles and see if there still are yeasties in there.
Well, well.
I am not giving up my quest for Sediment Free Homebrew, will let you know if it ever works out
And no, I am not ready to go into kegging quite yet,
Bjorn
I wanted to test a theory I had, aiming to get bottled homebrew without sediment.
Imagine, having "real" beer in bottles to let others try homebrew or bring to a party without having to explain the whole thing about not being able to drink it from the bottle, having to decant it into a jug, etc. Not to mention having to throw part of each beer away. I want to bring a six-pack of my own beer, in my own labels out on a picnic. Enjoy the fruits of my labour without worrying about the yeast sediment being stirred into the entire bottle from carrying the esky around.
I am sure some of you know what I mean..
Anyway.
I fermented as usual, then siphoned 15 liters into my cube. Morgans Mid strength 3.5 for those interested.
Bulk carbonated with 180 gr of Dextrose dissolved in some hot water. This was 50% to much after reading online about bulk priming. The thinking was to have excess carbonation so I could easily loose some when bottling without ending up with flat beer.
So I had my cube of 15 liters of bulk carbonated beer, and left the cube in the cupboard in a big plastic container, just in case it would not hold the pressure.
5 weeks later:
The cube was bulging a little, it now had a bit of head space (5 cm?). When I put it away I squeezed it completely shut with no air in it, so it was obvious that the cask conditioning had worked!!!
The Joy! Calling it "pride" may be pushing it, but I had by now discussed it with a mate at work who also homebrews (he was somewhat sceptical) and Dave from Dave's Homebrew who felt I should "smoke less crack while homebrewing", hehe! I was looking forward to this, I wanted Sediment Free Homebrew, damn it. It was going to work, I don't care what anyone (rightly) said.
I had even boasted to the guys at the North Shore homebrew appreciation club, that I would be bringing beautiful beer in sediment free bottles with labels for the next tasting. Ok, maybe I was putting a bit much into this, but it was fun trying to do something I had not tried before..
Yesterday I went up to the homebrew shop again, bought a small hand-capper from Dave who after advising about bulk priming, selling me the supplies and getting the hand capper said if it works out he will take full credit. And if it doesn't it will be all my fault... The pressure is building, this better work!!
Back at work I got help with emptying out a six-pack of Little Creatures Bright Ale so I could have some glass bottles to fill.
With the baby asleep last night, it was time..
I was ready. Bottle caps, sanitiser, bottles, the works. I was going to bottle cask conditioned beer, brilliant!!
Scrubbed off labels, washed and sanitised, etc.
The cube came out from the fridge, it has been there overnight to get the beer as cold as possible before bottling.
Taa-daa!!
It was flat!!!
Crystal clear, yes. Ok tasting, yup. Smells nice, even. But carbonation, you ask?? No. Flat. Completely flat. Completely flat, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Had a glass of (flat) beer while pondering it over. No, still flat. Flat beer is not to my liking. It was of course sediment free, but somehow this was not what I was after.
Not happy, I'll tell you that.
Considered tipping the whole thing out, but decided to make the best of it.
Bottled the six-pack of glass bottles, if nothing else I got to test hand capping.
Bottled 10 PET bottles against better knowledge, thinking "maybe it will get better", or "maybe I can add carbonation drops later"..
I have no explanation other than that my cube does not hold pressure? :angry:
When I put the cube in the fridge, I carefully opened the cap and released the excess pressure. It definetly said "fssssss" for about 3-4 seconds, but that was it.
After having a nights sleep between me and the FLAT BEER, I am now thinking to put some carbonation drops into half of the PET bottles and see if there still are yeasties in there.
Well, well.
I am not giving up my quest for Sediment Free Homebrew, will let you know if it ever works out
And no, I am not ready to go into kegging quite yet,
Bjorn