Big Beers Experimentation

[Doc]

I was thinking my experimentation with big beers was coming to a conclusion.
But over the weekend I was flicking through a recipe book and found a recipe for an Austrian Triple Bock.
Also the Stones Brewing Ruination clone in the BYO mag a couple of issues ago has been getting rave reviews on HBA. The Pliny the Elder clone is also getting a few comments.

Has anyone down here brewed any of the clones out of that issue ?

Beers,
Doc

 

[big d]

hi doc
was planning on doing pliny the elder later on in the month once i work out what to swap the warrior and colombus hops with.rest is pretty straight forward.same hop exchange issues with the ruination. <_<

cheers
big d

 

[wee stu]

Has anyone down here brewed any of the clones out of that issue ?

Not yet, but my next brew is likely to be worked around the relatively simple and smallish (60IBU, 6.4 ABV) Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale - but with ahtanum figuring in there somewhere in a hop substitution, and no doubt some modifications to the grain bill based on pantry stocks

"Wit d'ye mean laddie, buy mair hops 'n grains for a bru. when ah've these purrrfectly guid auld yins hangin' aroond!! Awa an' bile yir heid!!"

 

[Doc]

Doc's Hourglass IPA

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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06-A American Pale Ales, American Pale Ale

Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.056
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 40
Min Clr: 8 Max Clr: 22 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (L): 25.10 Wort Size (L): 25.10
Total Grain (kg): 6.86
Anticipated OG: 1.064 Plato: 15.76
Anticipated EBC: 27.5
Anticipated IBU: 64.4
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
77.8 5.33 kg. JWM Traditional Ale Malt Australia 1.038 7
5.0 0.34 kg. JWM Light Munich Australia 1.038 20
4.4 0.30 kg. Weyermann CaraWheat Germany 1.037 120
3.6 0.25 kg. TF Crystal Rye UK 1.031 210
3.2 0.22 kg. Weyermann Melanoidin Germany 1.037 70
2.5 0.17 kg. JWM Wheat Malt Australia 1.040 4
1.7 0.12 kg. JWM Caramalt Australia 1.036 56
1.7 0.12 kg. Hoepfner Caramel Malt Pils Germany 1.036 3

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
11.04 g. Simcoe Pellet 14.70 19.8 60 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 8.7 45 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 5.7 45 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 4.9 30 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 3.2 30 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 3.9 25 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 2.6 25 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 3.3 20 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 2.1 20 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 2.6 15 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 1.7 15 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 1.9 10 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 1.3 10 min.
14.65 g. Cascade Pellet 5.40 1.6 5 min.
7.32 g. Amarillo Gold Pellet 7.10 1.1 5 min.


Yeast
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White Labs WLP001 California Ale

Kegged it tonight.
Wow, what a hop explosion.
With the recent threads of the WLP001 yeast dulling the hop rates I'm guessing the overhopping still comes through

Drinking what was left in the bottom of the fermenter now and can't wait for the keg to be carb'd up.

Bigd how did yours turn out ?

Beers,
Doc

 

[big d]

hi doc
my hourglass turned out unreal.unfortunately its all gone and im not impressed.
i need another large hop order to do this brew again but i will be brewing this soon .the balance of malts to hop was unreal.i thought it would be too in your face with hop flavour/aroma but it was an excellant beer.got good rave reviews from mega swill mates so i guess its an acceptable drop .

will i brew this again?
**** yeah


cheers
big d

 

[big d]

will be brewing the stone brewing ruination ipa on friday.have to set up my new mash tun tomorrow for the7.05kg grain bill.

cheers
big d

 

[bonk]

good job big d.

i know its not quite the same level, but i did an ipa on sunday arvo, i tasted the sample and i think i stripped 5 layers off my teeth, only about 60 ibu's

 

[Doc]

will be brewing the stone brewing ruination ipa on friday.have to set up my new mash tun tomorrow for the7.05kg grain bill.

What substitutions have you done for the hops bigd ?
Look forward to hearing how it goes.

Beers,
Doc

 

[big d]

gday doc
yep our hops sub can be the major difference so ive gone for a few big hitters.
chinook for bittering,amarillo for flavour/aroma and dry hopping with cascade.
following the recipe hop addition the ibu comes in at only 77.6 ibu with the above additions.im playing with the idea of upping the chinook to achieve 100+ ibus as per this beers requirements.gonna do a bit of research tonight as per hop similarities to see if i can swap the above hops around a bit.or add some others in there place.

cheers
big d

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

Hey Doc, how is the Imperial Pils going. Have you tried it yet?

C&B
TDA

 

[Doc]

It is cold conditioning at the moment. Have had a few samples and it tastes pretty good. Was thinking of taking a sample and carbing it up as a test this week.
There are two ales in the queue to be kegged before it at this stage, so it will probably go into a keg around xmas/new year.

Beers,
Doc

 

[Doc]

The Imperial Pilsner got kegged tonight.
My first taste while kegging was ouch, wow, mmm, ah, like the scherbert or fiz bombs you had as kids. It is addictive.
One of the judging forms for one of my Imperial IPA entries in the NSW comp came back and said where is the pain
Well this baby has a bit of pain and a lot of addictiveness.
Slightly sweet but bitter. Nice.
Next time I'll be looking to achieve better attenuation though.

Beers,
Doc

 

[GMK]

ok...Got The Belgian Golden Drake Underway.
Used 10.8kg of grain.
Maxed the mash tun out at 36.5litres.
Did a MAH/Chiller multi step infusion.
- 40 for 30
- 50 for 20
- 66 for 45
- 72 for 25
- 76 for 10
Started with 15ltrs at 40 - did boiling water additions upto 50 and then to 66
Could not get enough boiling water to 72 - Used the heating wand there after.
Into the Kettle !st runnings of approx 19ltrs at 1093
topped off to 27ltrs with second runnings - (1044)

Then thru in 2kg of munich - topped off mash tun at 36.5 and left at 65 for however long it takes to boil - will make a smaller beer straight afterwards.
In the kettle added a pound of Candy sugar - waiting for the boil and getting ready to skim as we speak.
I am aiming for OG of 1104-1109 at 10.5%

will see how we go.

 

[GMK]

What a ****** Up Day.

What started as a good brew day at 8.30am - is ****** by 4.30pm

Had 3 people stop by - all wanted to drink - last person wanted to bottle a cider we went halves in - prime - u need to get up here and taste this...
Also drink.

Started with 26ltrs in th ekettle to boil for 90 mins.
ended up with 11 litres into th efermenter at over 32 on the refrractometer.
Put fermenter on laminated piece of wood that was sitting on a make shift table.
Then everything went to ****.
Opened up mash tun to pour in water from HLT that i lifted up.

End result;
- Broken killkenny glass
- fermenter of 11 ltrs of over 1200 gone.
- open mash tun on the floor - of the 12.8kg of grain in there for the second batch - around 10.00 is on the floor...
- one angry little man who at the time only wanted a jug.

so galsses smashed, grain everywhere, 8 hours plus 12.8kg of grain hops and electricity all gone.......

I am one sad, angry and unhappy little man....
verry, very pissed off.

Have mates turn up, brew with three kids around with the wife out is not fun.

I now need to go clean up: - everything was going so well -

talk again soon.

NOT HAPPY....JAN!

 

[chiller]

After chat last night I've been wondering how your day has progressed.

Dare say lessons may have been learnt??

Steve

 

[GMK]

mate,

It was just too much....

I was planing on not drinking...
Everything was going so well.
i had a BBC member turn up in his lunch hour - he helped out but wanted a beer or 2.
Then a mate to bottle a cider - few more drinks - then the kettle boiled over - new i was in trouble from then on in.
But the beer tasted SO GOOD into th efermenter.....

I was so looking forward to this....

Ah well - shuld keep focussed and not drink with mates on brew day.
Having the kids around as well does not help.

But i almost made it...but then the path to defaeat is allways paved with almost victories.

And as they say....

Ka Cer A Cer A... What ever will be will be....
20 ltrs of 10.5 % of Golden Ale is not for me...

....This Time.

 

[THE DRUNK ARAB]

Sorry to hear about your bad brew day GMK :unsure:

It happens to all of us, you just have to soldier on mate.

It would have been the best beer you ever brewed too, I just know it!!

C&B
TDA

 

[GMK]

Thanks TDA....

Will just have to make the next one better.

And complete it with no accidents.

 

[sosman]

Look on the bright side. You didn't smash the hydrometer.

 

[chiller]

If you would like to Ken, you can brew here at my place.

[a] No pissed mates

No temp table

[c] no kids to baby sit. Dobbermanns no longer count as kids




Just bring grain, gas and hops.

Steve