300-400 Litre Brewing System

[byrnesy50]

G'day all,

I am in the process of starting up a craft beer venue. I am keen to put a 300-400 litre brew system in the back of the venue. This is to brew only small batch limited release beers only for sale at the venue. I need a basic system that can produce quality beer but does not cost me an arm and a leg. It will not be on show so there is no concern about what it looks like. I would appreciate some advice on the best place to source something like this or even better if somebody has a system for sale. The majority of our beer range will be from Craft Breweries around Australia and NZ and we will have no mainstream beers. We are only hoping to produce enough beer to supply a tap or two at the venue.

Cheers,

Grant

 

[QldKev]

Prob too big, and over your budget

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ME:B:SS:AU:1123
Be plenty left over to bottle for patrons to purchase to take home.



Otherwise there is a place in Perth that builds good sized s/s pot for a decent price. Can't remember their name, but I've seen a couple on here with the pots. One recently build one but I cant remember who it was. Hopefully they will let you know.

QldKev

 

[Malted]

http://www.speidels-braumeister.de/Braumeister-200/::26.html

From the acclaimed Speidel Braumeister range come their 200L unit. Small brewery footprint, easy to use and makes great beer. Available from Mark's Homebrewand Grain & Grape.

 

[byrnesy50]

Thanks Kev,

I will look into it. I appreciate you getting back to you me so quick! I will let you all know when the venue is up and running and get you all out there supporting craft beer!!

Cheers,

Grant

Prob too big, and over your budget

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ME:B:SS:AU:1123
Be plenty left over to bottle for patrons to purchase to take home.



Otherwise there is a place in Perth that builds good sized s/s pot for a decent price. Can't remember their name, but I've seen a couple on here with the pots. One recently build one but I cant remember who it was. Hopefully they will let you know.

QldKev

 

[DanIAm]

Good luck with your endeavour byrnesy50, sounds like fun.


Maybe it's worth enquiring about systems like a Speidel Braumeister. They do have a 200 Litre version.

The 20 Litre version is $2,500.
The 30 Litre version is $3,500
So the 200 Litre version is only going to cost a fraction of the qldkevs ebay find. Mate, that ebay link was good beer porn, I had to look at that picture several times.

The other main part of the puzzle is kegs, fermenters and a temperature controlled place for fermentation. With the fermenters, I'm hazarding a guess that you'd get be able to get a stainless steel version of the right size from the wine industry (maybe second hand?).


The Speidel system isn't the only one, there are competitors so do your research. Australian sales agents are

Grain and Grape http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_in...roducts_id=8813
Marks Homebrew http://www.ubrew.com.au/web/index.asp

Chat to either of these stores and you'll know more about what they are/do which will make your research on competitive products easier.

You could also build one. The Brewers Den has a photo of the system that the owner built, he loves to chat about it so give him a call. Pictures are here http://www.thebrewersden.com.au/a/Beer-Stuff

 

[byrnesy50]

Haha classic. It was one sexy microbrewery on EBAY. Unfortunately well and truly out of our price range at this point in time.
Thanks so much for your reply. Its great to have such enthusiasm from everybody and so far I have had great support from all involved in craft beer.

The venue will be called Odyssey Tavern & Brewery (we may not have the brewery installed by opening but it will be close based on the options I have found today and previously). Follow us on Twitter @OdysseyTavern for updates.

THe 200 Litre Speidel Braumeister looks like it could be a great option and i will look into the competition also. I will also contact the brewers den and have a chat.

Thanks again and I will let ya know how we go along with an invite to our opening!!

Cheers,

Grant

Good luck with your endeavour byrnesy50, sounds like fun.


Maybe it's worth enquiring about systems like a Speidel Braumeister. They do have a 200 Litre version.

The 20 Litre version is $2,500.
The 30 Litre version is $3,500
So the 200 Litre version is only going to cost a fraction of the qldkevs ebay find. Mate, that ebay link was good beer porn, I had to look at that picture several times.

The other main part of the puzzle is kegs, fermenters and a temperature controlled place for fermentation. With the fermenters, I'm hazarding a guess that you'd get be able to get a stainless steel version of the right size from the wine industry (maybe second hand?).


The Speidel system isn't the only one, there are competitors so do your research. Australian sales agents are

Grain and Grape http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_in...roducts_id=8813
Marks Homebrew http://www.ubrew.com.au/web/index.asp

Chat to either of these stores and you'll know more about what they are/do which will make your research on competitive products easier.

You could also build one. The Brewers Den has a photo of the system that the owner built, he loves to chat about it so give him a call. Pictures are here http://www.thebrewersden.com.au/a/Beer-Stuff

 

[sim]

Where are you so that i might drink your beer?

 

[byrnesy50]

We will be just outside of Geelong on the Torquay Highway at Mount Duneed. Odyssey Tavern & Brewery - Biggest craft beer range in the region!! make sure you let me know you were from aussie home brewer when you drop in.

Cheers,

Grant

Where are you so that i might drink your beer?

 

[iralosavic]

The costs will creep up very quickly if you focus your budget on the wort creation part of the brewery.

Something designed for commercial use to cover mash in to bottling is the go. This example could be landed in Australia for well under $20k and will set you up indefinitely.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/39768755...ct_brewery.html


http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/33193101...0l_brewery.html

 

[pk.sax]

Just saying, give Beerbelly.com.au a yell and see if they can fix something customised to your needs. I bet they'd loveto have a crack at something like that and good reputation for quality etc.

 

[Effect]

Just saying, give Beerbelly.com.au a yell and see if they can fix something customised to your needs. I bet they'd loveto have a crack at something like that and good reputation for quality etc.

I don't think he has the budget for something that can only brew max 75 litre batches. If he wants two taps running he will need something like a 400 litre brewery.

Good quality gear though from bb.

 

[mxd]

The costs will creep up very quickly if you focus your budget on the wort creation part of the brewery.

Something designed for commercial use to cover mash in to bottling is the go. This example could be landed in Australia for well under $20k and will set you up indefinitely.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/39768755...ct_brewery.html


http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/33193101...0l_brewery.html

id that really the price, US$15,000 for 300 litre set up with 5 or was it 6 fermenter s ?

if so then it makes the one below a little exy ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ME:B:SS:AU:1123
Be plenty left over to bottle for patrons to purchase to take home.

 

[DU99]

Thought of tring craftbrewer in queensland ross might be able to help you ..sounds an interesting place to visit once it opens

 

[iralosavic]

id that really the price, US$15,000 for 300 litre set up with 5 or was it 6 fermenter s ?

if so then it makes the one below a little exy ?

It's "starting from $15k", and I think the upper end was $30k by memory. Still - buying a large scale turnkey brewery including fermenting and bright vessles from a single commercial engineering firm is the way to go IMO. $30k is definitely a reasonable budget for the brewery equipment side of starting a micro brewery. You'd obviously still have to factor in building up an inventory of stock and a whole host of other factors if marketing beyond the brewery itself.

And yeah, Ross would be worthwhile having a chat to. It's practically essential to talk to people who have 'been there, done that' before you even consider throwing together a purchase plan. Business is not the platform to 'live and learn' from.

 

[jlm]

If my memory serves me correctly member Wessmith on these forums has or is part of a company that sources new and used breweries from around the globe. Can't remember the name of said company however. I'd be getting some info off him, he's in the business of setting up these things (if my memory serves me correctly).

 

[byrnesy50]

Wow. So much to take on board. I have been researching for quite some time now and have a few options but I wish I had of asked you lot on aussiehomebrewer earlier. thanks so much for all comments and advice. I will start working through it all and I am confident I will come up with something viable.. Cheers

 

[homebrewkid]

just on a side note i think that one on ebay might be the one at rydges hotel in campbelltown, the timing setup seems about right if so i wonder why they are selling it.


oops i meant the setup timing........

 

[Nibbo]

I lool forward to checking out your place when its all up and running...what time frame are you expecting to be operating? Will be a great spot to get business in the holiday periods...

 

[CONNOR BREWARE]

It's "starting from $15k", and I think the upper end was $30k by memory. Still - buying a large scale turnkey brewery including fermenting and bright vessles from a single commercial engineering firm is the way to go IMO. $30k is definitely a reasonable budget for the brewery equipment side of starting a micro brewery. You'd obviously still have to factor in building up an inventory of stock and a whole host of other factors if marketing beyond the brewery itself.

And yeah, Ross would be worthwhile having a chat to. It's practically essential to talk to people who have 'been there, done that' before you even consider throwing together a purchase plan. Business is not the platform to 'live and learn' from.

Price per vessel/ tun perhaps. I've chased quotes before from this source.

 

[doon]

eBay one is from flying horse in warrnambool victoria